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    Default A Michigan Barbershop Used Armed Militia To Stop Police From Shutting Them Down

    A Michigan Barbershop Used Armed Militia To Stop Police From Shutting Them Down
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    Michigan has been one of the hardest hit states in the country during the coronavirus pandemic. As a result, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued strict stay-at-home orders — but not all residents are happy about them. People who disagree with the forced shutdown of many businesses and public spaces have made their displeasure known with ongoing protests at the State House. And, in the case of a barber shop in the town of Owosso, an armed militia is on guard outside to prevent the police from coming inside and shutting it down.

    “If we have enough people to block entry and people are willing to be arrested, then we’ll do that,” Michigan Home Guard militia member Daniel Brewser told WILX. “If not then we’ll let him be arrested and we’ll organize another protest at the jailhouse with full battle rattle.”

    The owner of the shop, 77-year-old Karl Manke, opened his doors to customers earlier this month in defiance of state orders. As a result, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office has deemed the barbershop “an imminent danger to the public,” according to NBC 25 News. Manke received two police citations already, but overwhelming crowds wearing Trump shirts, hats, and carrying Trump flags have bombarded the space in front of his storefront after he chose to open doors once again.


    Members of the Michigan Home Guard —“Michigan’s biggest and most active militia,” according to their website — and dozens of other supporters have been standing outside the shop in order to help Manke stay open. According to reports, the militia members appear to be armed and prepared to take on police.

    Despite the fact that over 75 percent of Michigan residents agree with Gov. Whitmer’s handling of the pandemic, the opposition has had a massive impact, especially after President Trump tweeted that the re-open protesters are “very good people” who “want their lives back again.” As of Wednesday, there were over 48,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and more than 4,600 deaths in the state.

    “If you can walk down the aisles at Walmart it would seem to me you could walk down the aisles at a church,” Manke’s attorney, David Kallman, told WILX. “You could walk down the aisles in Karl’s barbershop and practice the same physical distancing, hand washing, all the things we’ve been hearing on and on right?”

    Shiawassee County Sheriff Brian Begole posted on Facebook on Monday saying his office does not have enough deputies to enforce the governor’s executive orders and will not be prioritizing it. In addition to concerns over allowing protestors to remain active in the wake of rising case numbers, Jamil Smith pointed out in Rolling Stone how disproportionately white the armed protesters in Michigan are — while the people dying from the virus have been disproportionately Black and brown.

    “If we are to believe that folks like these armed Michigan demonstrators really dislike the closures of small businesses, where is their anger over the sloppy government restitution program that has failed in its stated goal of helping those businesses?” Smith asks. “Where is their ire for lawmakers like Kemp, Trump, and the Republicans in Michigan who sought to thwart Whitmer’s orders, likely sacrificing lives to save their political skins?”

    Smith also noted that Whitmer “didn’t blink” in the face of these aggressive lockdown protests, and that there was “no reason to.” “She extended her coronavirus orders because there’s something more frightening than angry men with guns,” he wrote on Twitter.
    I am surprised that this occurred in Michigan instead of one of the western/southern states.
    Myself, I think it is a bold and correct action, as the over hyping has lead to unconstitutional restrictions/actions by politicians/-especially so by certain governors...... -- Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I am surprised that this occurred in Michigan instead of one of the western/southern states.
    Myself, I think it is a bold and correct action, as the over hyping has lead to unconstitutional restrictions/actions by politicians/-especially so by certain governors...... -- Tyr

    Would you feel the same if a young armed black man faced off against the police because he thought they were there to enforce an unconstitutional law?

    LOL This is exactly the sort of situation which gives crazy gun grabbers any license to even attempt to take guns.

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    I will go on record as saying this is a terrible idea. Perhaps I am naive, but I didn’t think folks would actually be so eager to start a revolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I will go on record as saying this is a terrible idea. Perhaps I am naive, but I didn’t think folks would actually be so eager to start a revolution.
    Yeah. I agree. IF the government is doing something someone finds so unfair/unconstitutional, which I think the barber has a point, the way is not to carry arms to 'protect,' certainly not initially. Just like the founders, first try petition. IF that doesn't work, civil disobedience, this only stayed 'civil' because the law enforcement people kept their heads.

    Look at Elon Musk. Make your choice, stand your ground, be willing to pay the price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I will go on record as saying this is a terrible idea. Perhaps I am naive, but I didn’t think folks would actually be so eager to start a revolution.
    My friend, the undeclared revolution has been going on for a long time now. They call it liberalism and its party is the dem party.
    A radical change occurred in the 60's- the Dem party was taken over by socialism, hot on one day, one month one year, but in that decade.
    Now it is infested with pure blood socialists, communists -lite, progressives , atheists, anti-constitutionalists, globalists, etc..
    When governors act like Presidents, some of want to know where in the Constitution they are given these Presidential powers.
    I am all for States rights being insured but not dictatorial rights.
    If I want to risk getting my haircut -that should be between me and whatever barber agrees to cut my hair.
    Not some nanny-state governor that decides that I must hide in my home ..
    I am tolerant, as I make no complaints against those that wish to stay in their homes, cut their own hair..
    But I am not for some idiot governor ordering me to stay home and not get my hair cut.
    Question is -how much more are we willing to give up in order for this false security these idiots are peddling.
    Because trust me, this is almost nothing in comparison to what they want and plan on doing to us.
    (give an inch, they will gladly take a mile) applies to government--never more so than to that of democrat politicians, imho.
    Choice, anybody deciding to voluntarily stay inside and try to ride it out-- ok by me.
    But any demanding that I--MUST-- do the same-- is certainly not ok by me..
    To me freedom is precious and should not be sold or given away in the name of false security....
    And a false security is what they are promising..-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Yeah. I agree. IF the government is doing something someone finds so unfair/unconstitutional, which I think the barber has a point, the way is not to carry arms to 'protect,' certainly not initially. Just like the founders, first try petition. IF that doesn't work, civil disobedience, this only stayed 'civil' because the law enforcement people kept their heads.

    Look at Elon Musk. Make your choice, stand your ground, be willing to pay the price.
    IF that doesn't work, civil disobedience
    What that militia did was civil disobedience.. Was not the law enforcement duty sworn to --keep their heads?
    If they so adamantly thought it so bad-- then petition the idiot governor to ask for federal intervention.
    But they know TRUMP--this nation's assigned and duly elected leader is not for that intervention.
    Are we to say that the militia was wrong because the cops didnt open fire on them??
    Maybe the cops didnt no push it is because so many of them thought the order was wrong!???
    As other police in other locations are openly refusing to enforce such orders.
    It is indeed a very dicey situation --but such is brought on by power grabs by politicians --not brought on by citizens, imho..-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I am surprised that this occurred in Michigan instead of one of the western/southern states.
    Myself, I think it is a bold and correct action, as the over hyping has lead to unconstitutional restrictions/actions by politicians/-especially so by certain governors...... -- Tyr
    Plenty of rednecks in Michigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    What that militia did was civil disobedience.. Was not the law enforcement duty sworn to --keep their heads?
    If they so adamantly thought it so bad-- then petition the idiot governor to ask for federal intervention.
    But they know TRUMP--this nation's assigned and duly elected leader is not for that intervention.
    Are we to say that the militia was wrong because the cops didnt open fire on them??
    Maybe the cops didnt no push it is because so many of them thought the order was wrong!???
    As other police in other locations are openly refusing to enforce such orders.
    It is indeed a very dicey situation --but such is brought on by power grabs by politicians --not brought on by citizens, imho..-Tyr
    I don't know re this particular situation but there have been a few sheriffs who said they wouldn't enforce *some* of Whitmer's draconian rules like no boats with motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I will go on record as saying this is a terrible idea. Perhaps I am naive, but I didn’t think folks would actually be so eager to start a revolution.
    You're not naive. But there has been chatter and articles written about a second Civil War. I started seeing it in Obamas second term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I don't know re this particular situation but there have been a few sheriffs who said they wouldn't enforce *some* of Whitmer's draconian rules like no boats with motors.
    Yes, here in my county too. "We believe the governor's actions are not legal, thus we will not arrest or issue citations to anyone. We will remind people of the social distancing recommendations, for their safety and others."

    The way it should be.

    Plenty of reporting from NYC, stores in Manhattan even. They are opening, the police come in, ask how it's going. Remind them to keep safe and their customers safe.

    That is how these things should go.

    Now even if the police are bound to enforce, having weapons at the beginning is just not cool. Appeal to our principles and their oaths. If that doesn't work, there's always room for more stands. That's my opinion.


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    Update.

    Looks like they are trying to strip the barber's licenses.


    Michigan barber defying Gov. Whitmer’s coronavirus shutdown has license stripped

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-...cense-stripped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Update.

    Looks like they are trying to strip the barber's licenses.


    Michigan barber defying Gov. Whitmer’s coronavirus shutdown has license stripped

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-...cense-stripped
    I read that last night. There are going to be a ton of lawsuits over these draconian measures, especially in MI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Yeah. I agree. IF the government is doing something someone finds so unfair/unconstitutional, which I think the barber has a point, the way is not to carry arms to 'protect,' certainly not initially. Just like the founders, first try petition. IF that doesn't work, civil disobedience, this only stayed 'civil' because the law enforcement people kept their heads.

    Look at Elon Musk. Make your choice, stand your ground, be willing to pay the price.
    It struck me that not just law enforcement kept their collective heads but so did the armed citizens. I can't help but think we citizens have been conditioned to believe (over many years) that an armed citizen is more dangerous than law enforcement. Law enforcement/military = "good"; armed citizen = "bad".
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    Possibly related, the WI State Supreme Court ruled that the EO of WI governor are unconstitutional.

    https://news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-sup...225457531.html

    Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down governor’s stay-at-home order
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    Molly Beck, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
    ,USA TODAY•May 14, 2020

    MADISON, Wis. – The Wisconsin Supreme Court has struck down Gov. Tony Evers' order shutting down daily life to limit the spread of coronavirus – marking the first time a statewide order of its kind has been knocked down by a court of last resort.


    The state's highest court, which is controlled by conservatives, sided with Republican lawmakers Wednesday in a decision that curbed the Evers administration's power to act unilaterally during public health emergencies.


    The 4-3 decision was written by four of the court’s conservatives – Chief Justice Patience Roggensack and Justices Rebecca Bradley, Daniel Kelly and Annette Ziegler.


    The court’s fifth conservative, Brian Hagedorn, wrote a dissent joined by the court’s two liberals, Ann Walsh Bradley and Rebecca Dallet. (The Bradleys are not related.)


    The ruling immediately lifts all restrictions on businesses and gatherings imposed by the administration's order but keeps in place the closure of schools until fall. It comes after Evers had already begun lifting some restrictions because the spread of the virus has slowed for now.


    "Republican legislators convinced four members of the Supreme Court to throw the state into chaos," Evers told reporters Wednesday evening. "Republicans own that chaos."


    Republicans who brought the lawsuit had asked the justices to side with them but to stay their ruling for about a week so legislators and Evers could work out a new plan to deal with the pandemic.


    The justices declined to do that and had their ruling take effect immediately.

    ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    You're not naive. But there has been chatter and articles written about a second Civil War. I started seeing it in Obamas second term.
    I have seen those, here even. Some folks have been itching to get into armed conflict for a long time. Let me put this as diplomatically as possible: That is a certain subset of people with whom I and my family have zero in common. But threatening and actually doing are two very different things. I’m wondering when we will reach a point of no return.
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