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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    you should hang out with Drummond.
    From what I have read of Drummond's posts, he would rather see American patriots and conservatives afraid to go out in public without masks that mark them as prisoners of the political war. I certainly do not feel any loyalty to the UK government, let alone ours.

    I'm curious about you now. Do you think people should wear masks when there isn't anything to filter out of the air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    you should hang out with Drummond.
    They wouldn't be in agreement, but could amuse each other in who repeated themselves more. Both think they're just to be listened to and define 'conservative' 'right' etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    They wouldn't be in agreement, but could amuse each other in who repeated themselves more. Both think they're just to be listened to and define 'conservative' 'right' etc.
    Liberal smugness sucks. If you believe in wearing masks when there is nothing to filter out, why not just come out with it? We already know that there are several patriots and conservatives wandering around supermarkets with commie masks on, so why not present sound logic to defend this behavior? Maybe browse through the arguments that I have made that you resent so much and assemble some superior logic to undo mine? I have a lot of respect for how Jimmy and Gunny debated me, even though I disagree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    From what I have read of Drummond's posts, he would rather see American patriots and conservatives afraid to go out in public without masks that mark them as prisoners of the political war. I certainly do not feel any loyalty to the UK government, let alone ours.
    Which is why you should have a discussion. The debate would go on for 500 pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Liberal smugness sucks. If you believe in wearing masks when there is nothing to filter out, why not just come out with it? We already know that there are several patriots and conservatives wandering around supermarkets with commie masks on, so why not present sound logic to defend this behavior? Maybe browse through the arguments that I have made that you resent so much and assemble some superior logic to undo mine? I have a lot of respect for how Jimmy and Gunny debated me, even though I disagree with them.
    Next time you have surgery, tell the surgeon to quit being such a commie and take his mask off when he opens you up and performs the procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Next time you have surgery, tell the surgeon to quit being such a commie and take his mask off when he opens you up and performs the procedure.
    Conflating the use of the correct masks by professionals who use them for the legitimate purpose they were designed for with people who wear masks where there is nothing to be filtered is really low commie behavior. Disgusting. Is this REALLY the narrative you want to push? Your post is hall of fame material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Conflating the use of the correct masks by professionals who use them for the legitimate purpose they were designed for with people who wear masks where there is nothing to be filtered is really low commie behavior. Disgusting. Is this REALLY the narrative you want to push? Your post is hall of fame material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Posts 20 and 22 are probably the lamest, weakest, and lowest stuff I have encountered in all my years of posting on political boards. Anybody can see your deceptive conflation stunt, it is on par with what I've come to expect from Pelosi, pencil neck, and Schumer. You should call me a racist and put me on ignore like lefties do when they lose if you can't break down my posts and trump my logic with something better. That slimey conflation stunt was so low that I'd be surprised to see the other weak player here defend you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post


    real mask? Like an M17A1 Field Protective mask? (I know it's been replaced). You can get a pretty bad rash. Lenses can fog up and your peripheral vision sucks.

    These little wannabe masks are just annoying. I ditched mine and went back to the bandana.

    This bonehead is just a drama queen looking for a cause and place to happen
    MOPP4.... for hours and hours.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    MOPP4.... for hours and hours.....
    Days at the beginning of Desert Storm, Sergeant Major. Kind of a deja vu moment. Nobody knew what the Hell Saddam had except what WE sold him (which was enough) so we laid around in the desert in MOPP 3 for about a week.

    I didn't count the number of times the skipper and the 1stSgt got on me for "losing" that POS kevlar helmet and wearing camo bandanas on my head and face. I ended up having to pay for it because at some point it got lost for real
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Days at the beginning of Desert Storm, Sergeant Major. Kind of a deja vu moment. Nobody knew what the Hell Saddam had except what WE sold him (which was enough) so we laid around in the desert in MOPP 3 for about a week.

    I didn't count the number of times the skipper and the 1stSgt got on me for "losing" that POS kevlar helmet and wearing camo bandanas on my head and face. I ended up having to pay for it because at some point it got lost for real

    About once a week on the Nassau, during Operation Desert Shield/Storm...we had GQ and had to get fully covered with that MOP GEAR. Felt really bad for all of the troops out in the Sand, putting them on and feeling like they were in AN OVEN. Couldn't get enough hydration no matter how long you had them on.

    And people today are whining about wearing a simple protective piece of cloth??? Boo Hoo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    About once a week on the Nassau, during Operation Desert Shield/Storm...we had GQ and had to get fully covered with that MOP GEAR. Felt really bad for all of the troops out in the Sand, putting them on and feeling like they were in AN OVEN. Couldn't get enough hydration no matter how long you had them on.

    And people today are whining about wearing a simple protective piece of cloth??? Boo Hoo!
    This euphemism is dangerous, if not an oxymoron. There is a big difference between military wearing functional protective gear while protecting our freedom and people surrendering or submitting to wearing what our enemy wants us to wear as we transition to socialism and dhimmitude. Those who wear that symbolic piece of cloth are helping to promote the notion that we need Fauci, socialism and an authoritarian big government. We need to make damn sure we really need to be wearing this symbolic piece of cloth before wearing it. For the sake of the freedom that you and I fought for in the sand, we should see it as something that is even less comfortable than what real military protective gear feels like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This euphemism is dangerous, if not an oxymoron. There is a big difference between military wearing functional protective gear while protecting our freedom and people surrendering or submitting to wearing what our enemy wants us to wear as we transition to socialism and dhimmitude. Those who wear that symbolic piece of cloth are helping to promote the notion that we need Fauci, socialism and an authoritarian big government. We need to make damn sure we really need to be wearing this symbolic piece of cloth before wearing it. For the sake of the freedom that you and I fought for in the sand, we should see it as something that is even less comfortable than what real military protective gear feels like.
    Summary:

    To wear? According to poster it must be scientifically PROVEN. Without such proof, one is commie or Nazi, he pronounces.

    Civilian lives are of less worth than those who've served.

    Regardless of data that clearly demonstrates that employing the simple act of masks, hand washing and social distancing, since not PROVEN, do not use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This euphemism is dangerous, if not an oxymoron. There is a big difference between military wearing functional protective gear while protecting our freedom and people surrendering or submitting to wearing what our enemy wants us to wear as we transition to socialism and dhimmitude. Those who wear that symbolic piece of cloth are helping to promote the notion that we need Fauci, socialism and an authoritarian big government. We need to make damn sure we really need to be wearing this symbolic piece of cloth before wearing it. For the sake of the freedom that you and I fought for in the sand, we should see it as something that is even less comfortable than what real military protective gear feels like.
    Incorrect. Same damned thing in context with the topic; which, I believe is based on some drama queen getting all claustrophobic in a simple face covering.

    By comparison, icansayit is absolutely correct. A couple of Marines went nuts while we were in MOPP 4 in the desert sun.

    There is no difference in the government telling me to wear a mask in Saudi Arabia Kuwait and the government telling me to wear a mask in San Antonio, TX. Just the same as there is no difference in YOU trying to shame and browbeat others who choose to wear them into not wearing them.

    NONE OF THE ABOVE allows me freedom of choice in the matter. Somebody else is telling me what's best for me on their authority. Only difference is you're on the "other side" but doing the same damned thing. Here's an idea: How about all of you go pound sand and leave the thinking about what's best for me to ME? THAT sounds rather Constitutional, doesn't it?

    Or is there a difference between the Government/left/MSM telling me I have to wear one or I'll die; or, you telling us we're pussies, lackeys to the left, ignorant and/or scared? Yet you say it is the left politicizing the virus and the masks. The only one here who would argue against that on this board is Pete.

    What exactly is it you are doing? You appear incapable of separating the actual virus, the masks and your politics.

    You can post all the crap you want about masks and none of it negates the fact that in filter vs non-filter vs airborne contaminants filter wins regardless the label you choose to put on it.
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    I have been remiss in my response, leaving out one factor that renders this entire issue moot. Show of hands. WHO, in this conversation/on this board is wearing face coverings by choice? Sassylady and kathianne maybe? I'm not. It's a civil offense to go out in public/to the store without one with a $5k fine here. And I KNOW I would be the MFer they'd decide to set an example with

    I learned to pick my fights more wisely than a $5k fine for the 3 whole minutes it takes to wear a bandana into the store for smokes n Cokes.
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