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    Default Sammy Hagar not afraid of coronavirus

    Sammy is 72 now, and has no fear of coronavirus. He isnt going to live in fear.

    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sa...-down-anymore/

    Good to see so many people are not surrendering or submitting to the covid fear mongering.

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    Well there you have it. Sammy Hagar has spoken. Wonder what Vince McMahon thinks?
    Last edited by Gunny; 05-26-2020 at 09:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Well there you have it. Sammy Hagar has spoken
    He is in a higher risk group, but he also knows he has lived a long and great life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    He is in a higher risk group, but he also knows he has lived a long and great life.
    I'm fine with that. It's HIS choice and HIS decision. That has been my theme all along whether it be with you or someone pro-lockdown like drummond. You are both trying to tell others what to think. His I believe it out of fear of mortality and yours is politically based. It's STILL the same crap when you get rid of all the decorative fluff.

    So here's a real problem for you to work on. By design, conservatives/rightwingers are independent, like to think for themselves and make their own decisions. It sets us apart from the left, and fuels the resentment. I admit, I have a habit of having looking at people who don't think for themselves with disdain.

    My first question is why are you using the same tactic the left uses to try and influence others when it's only going to cause resentment? Hardly a way to win your "war".

    If I was going to work on something I'm thinking it would be trying to get as many on the right on some kind of common ground at least long enough to win said "war". Instead, you have the previously mentioned, what I call attributes of the right that lead to inherent divisiveness causing nothing but squabbles among themselves while the marching in lockstep lefties are stealing the keys to the kingdom. They at least all agree on stealing the keys to the kingdom. Conservatives all demand they be stolen their (respectively) ways and refuse to support anyone doing it differently.

    Point: You're on here pissing off some pretty staunch conservatives just because you don't agree with their decisions. This issue (masks or no) is not a dealbreaker to me.

    Another point: Let's face facts. All of us are socialist to degrees. There wouldn't be so much as a community without it. People need to quit flipping their lids over words. IMO, one of the reasons some are most angry is the realization that they ARE dependent on the Government at all levels more than they cared to admit and this corona crap has put a spotlight on it because people on the right are trained to knee jerk at the word "socialist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'm fine with that. It's HIS choice and HIS decision. That has been my theme all along whether it be with you or someone pro-lockdown like drummond. You are both trying to tell others what to think. His I believe it out of fear of mortality and yours is politically based. It's STILL the same crap when you get rid of all the decorative fluff.

    So here's a real problem for you to work on. By design, conservatives/rightwingers are independent, like to think for themselves and make their own decisions. It sets us apart from the left, and fuels the resentment. I admit, I have a habit of having looking at people who don't think for themselves with disdain.

    My first question is why are you using the same tactic the left uses to try and influence others when it's only going to cause resentment? Hardly a way to win your "war".

    If I was going to work on something I'm thinking it would be trying to get as many on the right on some kind of common ground at least long enough to win said "war". Instead, you have the previously mentioned, what I call attributes of the right that lead to inherent divisiveness causing nothing but squabbles among themselves while the marching in lockstep lefties are stealing the keys to the kingdom. They at least all agree on stealing the keys to the kingdom. Conservatives all demand they be stolen their (respectively) ways and refuse to support anyone doing it differently.

    Point: You're on here pissing off some pretty staunch conservatives just because you don't agree with their decisions. This issue (masks or no) is not a dealbreaker to me.

    Another point: Let's face facts. All of us are socialist to degrees. There wouldn't be so much as a community without it. People need to quit flipping their lids over words. IMO, one of the reasons some are most angry is the realization that they ARE dependent on the Government at all levels more than they cared to admit and this corona crap has put a spotlight on it because people on the right are trained to knee jerk at the word "socialist".

    You can't win a war without first being honest with yourself about who and what you are and who and what the enemy is.
    The mask thing is all political. Those who wear masks where masks aren't needed do it out of fear of what they learned from political propaganda. Society wasn't wearing masks for similar infection and death counts of years of the flu since the msm wasn't fear mongering the same way, but they wear them now because of political propaganda. I dont mind being resented for what I say, and I respect those who make a good effort to post superior logic. The right split when Trump came into the picture, and now the right may be splitting again over covid.

    I am certainly interested in all of your opposition to my mask posts, and my eyes are open to any logic that can lead me to believe that wearing masks where they aren't needed is anything but political. I welcome and invite any and all members here to show me how mask people got there fear from anything besides political propaganda. I dont mind being insulted or mocked, and I dont get my feelings hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    The mask thing is all political. Those who wear masks where masks aren't needed do it out of fear of what they learned from political propaganda. Society wasn't wearing masks for similar infection and death counts of years of the flu since the msm wasn't fear mongering the same way, but they wear them now because of political propaganda. I dont mind being resented for what I say, and I respect those who make a good effort to post superior logic. The right split when Trump came into the picture, and now the right may be splitting again over covid.

    I am certainly interested in all of your opposition to my mask posts, and my eyes are open to any logic that can lead me to believe that wearing masks where they aren't needed is anything but political. I welcome and invite any and all members here to show me how mask people got there fear from anything besides political propaganda. I dont mind being insulted or mocked, and I dont get my feelings hurt.
    I don't wear a mask because I'm afraid. I wear to establishments that require them because it is their right to set the rules of their business. If I go to an establishment that doesn't have rules posted I ask if they want me to wear a mask and then I wear if they say yes to show respect for their request. Wearing the mask doesn't hurt me but it might make others feel better.

    For you imply that wearing a mask is entirely political is incorrect. Maybe somewhat political but mostly common courtesy for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    I don't wear a mask because I'm afraid. I wear to establishments that require them because it is their right to set the rules of their business.
    This is a legitimate reason to wear a mask. I have one in my car standing by for the same reason. When I do end up at a business that requires one though, I am confident that they require the mask because of fear that is rooted in political propaganda. I still end up having to wear a mask in that establishment because of fear that is rooted in political propaganda, even though it is not my own fear. Excellent point, and thanks for a great post.

    If I go to an establishment that doesn't have rules posted I ask if they want me to wear a mask and then I wear if they say yes to show respect for their request. Wearing the mask doesn't hurt me but it might make others feel better.
    That is very nice of you. I have recently shared some of my mask inventory with co workers who were unable to purchase masks, and everybody where I work resents people who buy masks to wear where they aren't needed. I resent mask wearing because it is political propaganda generated by my political opponents who want control. I wish you were on my side fighting the mask political agenda, but at least you are on my side in November.

    For you imply that wearing a mask is entirely political is incorrect. Maybe somewhat political but mostly common courtesy for others.
    That common courtesy is courteous indeed, but i believe the courtesy is to accommodate the fear that somebody else has that is rooted in political propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'm fine with that. It's HIS choice and HIS decision. That has been my theme all along whether it be with you or someone pro-lockdown like drummond. You are both trying to tell others what to think. His I believe it out of fear of mortality and yours is politically based. It's STILL the same crap when you get rid of all the decorative fluff.

    So here's a real problem for you to work on. By design, conservatives/rightwingers are independent, like to think for themselves and make their own decisions. It sets us apart from the left, and fuels the resentment. I admit, I have a habit of having looking at people who don't think for themselves with disdain.

    My first question is why are you using the same tactic the left uses to try and influence others when it's only going to cause resentment? Hardly a way to win your "war".

    If I was going to work on something I'm thinking it would be trying to get as many on the right on some kind of common ground at least long enough to win said "war". Instead, you have the previously mentioned, what I call attributes of the right that lead to inherent divisiveness causing nothing but squabbles among themselves while the marching in lockstep lefties are stealing the keys to the kingdom. They at least all agree on stealing the keys to the kingdom. Conservatives all demand they be stolen their (respectively) ways and refuse to support anyone doing it differently.

    Point: You're on here pissing off some pretty staunch conservatives just because you don't agree with their decisions. This issue (masks or no) is not a dealbreaker to me.

    Another point: Let's face facts. All of us are socialist to degrees. There wouldn't be so much as a community without it. People need to quit flipping their lids over words. IMO, one of the reasons some are most angry is the realization that they ARE dependent on the Government at all levels more than they cared to admit and this corona crap has put a spotlight on it because people on the right are trained to knee jerk at the word "socialist".

    You can't win a war without first being honest with yourself about who and what you are and who and what the enemy is.



    Incisive post, Gunny. You’ve boiled this issue down very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    The mask thing is all political. Those who wear masks where masks aren't needed do it out of fear of what they learned from political propaganda. Society wasn't wearing masks for similar infection and death counts of years of the flu since the msm wasn't fear mongering the same way, but they wear them now because of political propaganda. I dont mind being resented for what I say, and I respect those who make a good effort to post superior logic. The right split when Trump came into the picture, and now the right may be splitting again over covid.

    I am certainly interested in all of your opposition to my mask posts, and my eyes are open to any logic that can lead me to believe that wearing masks where they aren't needed is anything but political. I welcome and invite any and all members here to show me how mask people got there fear from anything besides political propaganda. I dont mind being insulted or mocked, and I dont get my feelings hurt.
    Did you see my pic of guys wearing masks here decades ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Did you see my pic of guys wearing masks here decades ago?
    They were all communists too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Did you see my pic of guys wearing masks here decades ago?
    Lol. I saw that. Being hazmat trained and respirator qualified, I thought it was cute how they wore such things. I guess its the thought that counts though. Right?

    I also got a sense that you were cautiously defending the use of the masks that people are wearing because of all the political propaganda from the left. It appeared that you were saying that you are for doing what the political propaganda calls for, but that you aren't really sure why. Just my perception though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    They were all communists too.
    I see you are setting up a defense for commies by attempting to marginalize my anti commie comments. Are you worried about something? Do my comments about commies rub you the wrong way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Lol. I saw that. Being hazmat trained and respirator qualified, I thought it was cute how they wore such things. I guess its the thought that counts though. Right?

    I also got a sense that you were cautiously defending the use of the masks that people are wearing because of all the political propaganda from the left. It appeared that you were saying that you are for doing what the political propaganda calls for, but that you aren't really sure why. Just my perception though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    The mask thing is all political. Those who wear masks where masks aren't needed do it out of fear of what they learned from political propaganda. Society wasn't wearing masks for similar infection and death counts of years of the flu since the msm wasn't fear mongering the same way, but they wear them now because of political propaganda. I dont mind being resented for what I say, and I respect those who make a good effort to post superior logic. The right split when Trump came into the picture, and now the right may be splitting again over covid.

    I am certainly interested in all of your opposition to my mask posts, and my eyes are open to any logic that can lead me to believe that wearing masks where they aren't needed is anything but political. I welcome and invite any and all members here to show me how mask people got there fear from anything besides political propaganda. I dont mind being insulted or mocked, and I dont get my feelings hurt.
    First, just who establishes "where masks aren't needed"? You?

    Second, you don't wear a mask out of fear of what you learned from political propaganda. See how THAT works?

    It is not my intent to insult nor mock you. You make it kind of hard when all you are doing is attacking others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    First, just who establishes "where masks aren't needed"? You?

    Second, you don't wear a mask out of fear of what you learned from political propaganda. See how THAT works?

    It is not my intent to insult nor mock you. You make it kind of hard when all you are doing is attacking others.
    It was already established throughout world history that masks are not needed. The notion that there is a need to walk about society and supermarkets with masks on is political. When lefties put a saddle and reins on the coronavirus, they learned how to implant doubt and fear into the minds of freedom loving patriots and conservatives who love to protect themselves, family, and loved ones. The beltway for this weaponized political propaganda is the media.

    The reason why I don't wear masks outside of work is that I have years of hazmat training like what you got in the Army, and some. My commitment to those who paid the ultimate price for our freedom is strong as well, so there needs to be something more than political propaganda to get me to wear the colors of my political opponents who I perceive to be the enemy of freedom. Freedom ain't cheap.

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