It is not established through anything but your and others' opinions.
Please. Enlighten us as to how exactly the left "put a saddle and reins" on and control a virus. All ears.
You are not the only one trained in Nuclear, Bio and Chem Warfare. Oh. You call it HazMat. Civilian term.
What clothes you wear is back seat to what is coming out of your mouth. The tactics used by the left. You're not going to win any allies using them. You are one of the few people I can agree with on quite a few things but end up arguing with simply for your lack of ability to sell the product. Rather, you turn people off who might otherwise agree with you.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I saw in a few threads about masks not being used in history and prior pandemics. This is incorrect. Sure, I'm confident some can be found not wearing them during such times. But stories and pictures are there to prove that it's been a long used method.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
I have been a civilian since the 90s, so my military hazmat and cbr training is pretty dated. I have stayed up to date on hazmat training though, since I wear respirators and ppe every day for work.
I'd be interested in being convinced that the mask culture is based on something besides political propaganda. I believe i can objectively step away from my stance for long enough to process information that shows the mask culture of our current political landscape being based on something besides political propaganda. Can you post something that shows the mask culture as being based on something besides political propaganda? I am open and ready to take an objective look.
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I kinda go along with this, since I have in fact spotted a few masks in use over the years. Those seemed too isolated for me to identify as a political movement, but I have seen masks out there for whatever reason. I too have seen and perhaps posted that masks have not been used in previous pandemics, so I will clarify my thoughts on this. I have read that there was a mask culture that existed during the Spanish flu, and my hypothesis is that the mask culture of that pandemic was based upon more altruistic and more ignorant intentions from back in those days, but i do not know. I certainly do not see the mask culture from back then as something conclusive that the mask culture of today should base mask use today on, but I very open to info that shows otherwise.
I am very interested in being convinced that the mask culture of today is not based on political propaganda, but i don't think it is because a few isolated people have worn masks over the years, or because there was a mask culture during the Spanish flu.
Someone can carry it and not know it. If they breathe near me, I can breath it in quite easily. More so if they cough or sneeze. Me wearing a mask severely minimizes those chances. If wearing nitrile gloves and a mask lowered my chances by 5% I would wear them. But IF there is a virus near where I'm going - then those gloves and mask lower the chances of me getting it by a huge margin. And worst case? I wear either for no reason, but I have peace of mind and my family feels better, and that makes it worth it as well.
With a virus, there is literally no way to know if it's somewhere around you in enclosed areas. This lowers my chances, and by a lot more than 5%.
The ONLY thing that could guarantee that a mask isn't necessary is factual knowledge that the virus isn't present. And at this time, no on can truly say that, especially so here in NY.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
The only one standing between you and being convinced masks are based on something other than political propaganda is YOU. Your powers of observation must need a tune up. There are as many leftwingnuts running around refusing to wear masks under any circumstances because "this is a Trump-driven bunch of BS".
Meanwhile, while they and you are getting on line for battle, the vast majority is concerned with dealing with a very real biological attack. Neither your nor the left's politics matter worth a damn if you're dead. Don't know how many times I have to point that out to you while you insist on keeping the cart before the horse.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I also wear seat belts even though I've never been in accident. Some things are common sense.
I have 2 hand made masks so I'm not affecting your supply.
What I don't understand is why you haven't accepted that the lockdown is bi-partisan and so is recommendation to wear masks.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.