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    Default Bloody Civil war

    I can't help but to wonder if or when a genuine violent civil war will break out in america. The two sides of the existing political war are already polarized and it does not appear that there is any hope in the future for the two sides to agree. All the civil unrest that we are seeing right now could very well be the beginning of a war with violence and bloodshed, a war that won't end until one side has been overwhelmed by violence and force. Anybody else sense that this is inevitable?

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    I do not. The 60s riots were worse, and we got through it.
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    Default You sound like you have very little confidence in being American.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I can't help but to wonder if or when a genuine violent civil war will break out in america. The two sides of the existing political war are already polarized and it does not appear that there is any hope in the future for the two sides to agree. All the civil unrest that we are seeing right now could very well be the beginning of a war with violence and bloodshed, a war that won't end until one side has been overwhelmed by violence and force. Anybody else sense that this is inevitable?

    I happened to live through the WATTS era, then the NAM era when Hateful Americans called me names, even assaulted me in Philly coming home for a weekend from my ship in the sixties. Remember Dr. King's murder and the same people were involved. Then Bobby Kennedy, here we go again. Rodney King the same time I was in the Persian Gulf during Desert Storm, and on, and on, and on. But our Constitutional Republic stayed strong...as long as the WEAKLINGS weren't in charge..Demanding that a CIVIL WAR was coming. OVER MY COLD DEAD BODY!
    We are stronger than the ignorant trouble-makers who convince the Uneducated they are victims of the Greatest Nation on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    I happened to live through the WATTS era, then the NAM era when Hateful Americans called me names, even assaulted me in Philly coming home for a weekend from my ship in the sixties. Remember Dr. King's murder and the same people were involved. Then Bobby Kennedy, here we go again. Rodney King the same time I was in the Persian Gulf during Desert Storm, and on, and on, and on. But our Constitutional Republic stayed strong...as long as the WEAKLINGS weren't in charge..Demanding that a CIVIL WAR was coming. OVER MY COLD DEAD BODY!
    We are stronger than the ignorant trouble-makers who convince the Uneducated they are victims of the Greatest Nation on earth.
    i'd agree with most of that.
    But you're pretty much a victim if the law enforcers of the land can have a knee on your neck for nine minutes until you're dead while other cops and bystanders watch as you die.
    Then many good folks are more upset at the REACTION than the gov't murder.

    most black people don't want a war... just cops and gov't we can trust not be bullies and murders.
    And fellow citizens that can acknowledge the problems and help fix them.

    but that's "Hating America!" to some so
    I guess we'll just do the dance forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    for what it's worth 2 points to consider. (or ignore)

    1. white gov't authorized city police murderer = random civilian black murderer?
    They are the same?

    2. Do nothing?
    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...407#post717407
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    for what it's worth 2 points to consider. (or ignore)

    1. white gov't authorized city police murderer = random civilian black murderer?
    They are the same?

    2. Do nothing?
    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...407#post717407
    Rev, speaking for myself ..... I don't understand why the rioting now. Why not when the video of the father son killing the black jogger came out? Why not after a weekend of murders in Chicago where black on black killings is so high? Why this particular murder?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    i'd agree with most of that.
    But you're pretty much a victim if the law enforcers of the land can have a knee on your neck for nine minutes until you're dead while other cops and bystanders watch as you die.
    Then many good folks are more upset at the REACTION than the gov't murder.

    most black people don't want a war... just cops and gov't we can trust not be bullies and murders.
    And fellow citizens that can acknowledge the problems and help fix them.

    but that's "Hating America!" to some so
    I guess we'll just do the dance forever.
    Rev, is looting and burning things down and threatening the WH your idea of how to accomplish these goals?

    Do you think fellow citizens are likely to “acknowledge the problems and help fix them” when they see looting and burning and threatening the WH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Rev, is looting and burning things down and threatening the WH your idea of how to accomplish these goals?

    Do you think fellow citizens are likely to “acknowledge the problems and help fix them” when they see looting and burning and threatening the WH?
    There have been several deaths from these riots the past few days. It will be interesting to see how much people care about them.

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    Default Good, Lawbiding, Responsible, Moral people

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    i'd agree with most of that.
    But you're pretty much a victim if the law enforcers of the land can have a knee on your neck for nine minutes until you're dead while other cops and bystanders watch as you die.
    Then many good folks are more upset at the REACTION than the gov't murder.

    most black people don't want a war... just cops and gov't we can trust not be bullies and murders.
    And fellow citizens that can acknowledge the problems and help fix them.

    but that's "Hating America!" to some so
    I guess we'll just do the dance forever.
    Would just let the Justice System work as designed. Outsiders, and intent trouble-makers perpetuated the anger, and generated the LAWLESSNESS. The officers have been fired, and the Murdering Cop has been arrested.

    At NO TIME in our consitution does ANY AMERICAN have the right, or power to become Judge, Jury, or Executioner. That's why we have a Judicial system that also punishes BAD COPS.
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    and here we go.
    look I'll reply to all your ...questions?
    But i have to ask.
    do you guys really think that's who I am?
    Someone who condones riots, looting and violence?
    To promote a political end.
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-31-2020 at 09:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    and here we go.
    look I'll reply to all your ...questions?
    But i have to ask.
    do you guys really think that's who I am?
    Someone who condones riots, looting and violence?
    To promote a political end.
    How long have you been a member? Of course they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    and here we go.
    look I'll reply to all your ...questions?
    But i have to ask.
    do you guys really think that's who I am?
    Someone who condones riots, looting and violence?
    To promote a political end.
    No, I don't think that is whom you are.

    I know if I were younger and black, I'd want to protest. Heck, I would do so just as a human being and white. I wouldn't mind marching for equal treatment under the law for all even today.

    Here's my issue, the riots, not the protests, are causing a lost moment. A moment that a man was murdered for.

    I also truly believe that these young, angry men are once again being manipulated by antifa/OWS anarchists. It's a matter of time before more are killed and then what?

    I'm seriously concerned that MN is going to revise the charges against that cop and he's going to walk. Why? The idiots would rather cave then assume people can understand the rationale. Instead they're being told to 'trust us, trust me.' Ellison. He's black, so what? What has he done to lift the poor? He's all about him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    and here we go.
    look I'll reply to all your ...questions?
    But i have to ask.
    do you guys really think that's who I am?
    Someone who condones riots, looting and violence?
    To promote a political end.
    I didn’t, I don’t, but your post that I quoted made me respond. You said people are more upset at the reaction than the murder. That makes it sound like you are upset with anyone who is speaking out angrily about the looting, etc.

    I’m not even sure politics is at the root anymore, beyond the Antifa stuff. I feel like people are going crazy, and my fear is that white reaction to the looting will raise the beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    and here we go.
    look I'll reply to all your ...questions?
    But i have to ask.
    do you guys really think that's who I am?
    Someone who condones riots, looting and violence?
    To promote a political end.
    Wow, this is spot on! Way to plow through political bullshit!

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