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    Default Why Sweden (and others) Already Won the Debate on COVID ‘Lockdown’ Policy

    Why Sweden Has Already Won the Debate on COVID ‘Lockdown’ Policy
    May 1, 2020 By 21wire


    https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/05/...JlVzsb1o_EGAZE



    "Unlike many others, Sweden has not enforced any strict mass quarantine measures to contain COVID-19, nor has it closed any of its borders. Rather, Swedish health authorities have issued a series of guidelines for social distancing and other common sense measures covering areas like hygiene, travel, public gatherings, and protecting the elderly and immune compromised. They have kept all preschools, primary and secondary schools open, while closing college and universities who are now doing their work and lectures online. Likewise, many bars and restaurants have remained open, and shoppers do not have to perform the bizarre ritual of queuing around the block standing 2 meters apart in order to buy groceries.

    According to the country’s top scientists, they are now well underway to achieving natural herd immunity. It seems this particular Nordic model has already won the debate.

    Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s government advisor for epidemiology explains, “We are all trying to keep the spread of this disease as low as possible, mainly to prevent our healthcare system from being overstretched, but we have not gone for the complete lockdown. We have managed to keep the number of cases low enough so the intensive care units have kept working and there has always been 20 per cent beds empty and enough protective equipment, even in Stockholm, where there has been a huge stress on healthcare. So in that way the strategy has worked.”

    ...According to top epidemiologist Dr Knut Wikkowski, the decision to lockdown only delayed the inevitable for countries like the US and UK, and quite possibly made the COVID-19 problem even worse than it would have previously been in the short to midterm, but in the long-term the results would be relatively the same proportionally in term of human casualties....

    The penny should have really dropped after it was revealed two weeks ago by Oxford Professor Carl Heneghan, Director for Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, that the peak of the UK’s coronavirus ‘crisis’ actually came a full week before Boris Johnson initiated lockdown on March 23rd...

    ...Outside of popular supposition and media talking points, there is no scientific study which shows that lockdown saved any significant number of lives. Instead, new data strongly suggests quite the opposite....

    he country has also been roundly criticized by some 2,300 academics who piled on scorn upon it in a letter posted in March demanding the government change course and immediately head for lockdown.

    However, the country has held off, and has since won endorsements from a number of eminent academics and professionals, like Professor Heneghan who hailed Sweden for “holding its nerve,” in the face of such public condemnation. That steadfastness seems to finally be paying dividends now, as some western mainstream media outlets, and even the UN itself, are acknowledging their comparable success. The New York Post begrudgingly acknowledged that Sweden received praise from the high chair of global public health at the World Health Organization (WHO), now lauded it as a “model” for overcoming the coronavirus crisis.

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    ...Swedish critics are quick to point out how poorly it’s doing compared to its Scandinavian neighbors, Denmark, Norway and Finland. ...
    As of today, Sweden, which has a population of roughly 10.5 million, has recorded 21,092 cases and 2,586 fatalities from COVID-19, that’s roughly 256 deaths per million people.
    By contrast, its southern neighbor Denmark which has a population of 5.8 million has recorded 9,1058 cases and 452 fatalities, roughly 78 deaths per million persons. Norway is similar population at 5.4 million, and has recorded 7,738 cases and 210 deaths, that’s 39 deaths per million. Finland has a population of 5.5 million confirmed just 4,995 cases and 211 deaths, with 38 deaths per million.
    Critics of Sweden have all seized upon these differences in order to condemn their government for being ‘irresponsible’ and “playing Russian roulette” with their citizens’ lives. If one didn’t know better from all the hysterical rhetoric, you’d think there was an impending genocide happening there. While these sort of polemic arguments seem to work in the narrow band of reality that are social media threads, the reality is that after scaling up its neighbors’ results to be in line with Sweden’s larger population which is roughly twice their size, the difference is statistically insignificant for a country of 10.5 million. They are basically arguing that when comparing Sweden to its neighbor Denmark, that a proportional difference of approximately 1,500 fatalities warrants Sweden closing all its schools and shutting down its entire economy and suffer all the chaos ill effects that goes with that course of action.
    To put things in even more perspective, while Sweden has already suffered 2,586 COVID deaths in 2020, back in 2018 there were approximately 6,997 total respiratory disease deaths in Sweden – and the country’s healthcare capacity was not overrun, nor were any of their public systems stretched to breaking point.
    It’s a ridiculous argument on its face, and yet, this is the line of thinking which seems to permeate through lockdown countries desperate to justify their own fatal policy decision.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    JAPAN had no lockdown
    and NO huge death rate and the number of cases is decreasing.

    Q. DOES A STATE OF EMERGENCY CAUSE A TOKYO LOCKDOWN?
    A. No, Abe and officials say Japan cannot legally enforce hard lockdowns. Public transportation is operating as normal. Most state of emergency measures are requests and instructions. Violators cannot be punished unless they fail to comply with orders related to storage or shipment of emergency relief goods and medical supplies.
    Q. WHY IS JAPAN NOT IMPOSING A HARD LOCKDOWN?
    A. Japan’s history of repression under fascist governments before and during World War II has left the public wary of government overreach. The country’s postwar constitution lays out strict protections for civil liberties. Abe’s government was reluctant to risk severe economic repercussions from more severe measures...
    April 2020
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/j...wn-whats-in-it

    Japan May Have Beaten Coronavirus Without Lockdowns or Mass Testing. But How?
    "Japan’s state of emergency is set to end with new cases of the coronavirus dwindling to mere dozens. It got there despite largely ignoring the default playbook.
    No restrictions were placed on residents’ movements, and businesses from restaurants to hairdressers stayed open. No high-tech apps that tracked people’s movements were deployed. The country doesn’t have a center for disease control. And even as nations were exhorted to “test, test, test,” Japan has tested just 0.2% of its population — one of the lowest rates among developed countries.
    Yet the curve has been flattened, with deaths well below 1,000, by far the fewest among the Group of Seven developed nations. In Tokyo, its dense center, cases have dropped to single digits on most days. While the possibility of a more severe second wave of infection is ever-present, Japan has entered and is set to leave its emergency in just weeks, with the status lifted already for most of the country and Tokyo and the remaining four other regions set to exit Monday....
    “Just by looking at death numbers, you can say Japan was successful,” said Mikihito Tanaka, a professor at Waseda University specializing in science communication, and a member of a public advisory group of experts on the virus. “But even experts don’t know the reason.”
    https://time.com/5842139/japan-beat-...ing-lockdowns/

    Ok they "don't know the reason"
    But using common sense we CAN say that the reason WASN'T LOCKDOWNS or MASS TESTING. (OR A VACCINE!!!)
    that's a simple clear FACT.

    the Time Mag article WANTS to claim all that contract tracing helped but they admit that Japans system "breaks down" after the number get too high. and they NEVER say HOW ... or THAT... contract tracing (tracking people) stopped any part of the outbreak.

    ........
    "The basic premise of Japan's strategy is "Test-Trace-Treat," or TTT. Once an infected individual has been identified through outward symptoms such as fever, each infection cluster is traced to the original source and everyone in the cluster is isolated and treated as necessary. This precise testing means that widespread testing of the population is not required, making it extremely cost-effective.
    The approach was proven in February, when Japan's northernmost main island of Hokkaido experienced an outbreak. A cluster-based, TTT intervention -- along with closure of transport routes and a stay-home request from the governor -- successfully contained the outbreak."

    https://www.insidejapantours.com/coronavirus-2020/

    as i said NO universal STAY AT HOME orders, College Closures, Business closures, Restaurant Closure, Church closures, public transportation shutdown etc .

    and NO MASS deaths or overrun hospital system.

    they focused on the tested, Infected and Ill.
    They did NOT shutdown down the whole nation.
    there was NO need.




    and I'll remind us that other epidemiologist have said that LIKE other corona viruses this one should have a short time to spread through out a population... a few months... then it's peaked and played out for the season. After which most of the population will have antibodies to deal with it. And "herd immunity" kicks in.
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    CBN News
    'Clinging to Old and Faulty Models': Was the Lockdown a Colossal Mistake?




    yes it was.
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    For me there's no debate about the COVID lockdown, COVID is simply another in a long line of "vector studies" conducted by USAMRIID and the WHO. And the "immune response" exhibited by the planet due to COVID, no doubt TPTB have been trying for decades to do this. Congress has been investigating their foray into Lyme Disease, I was at USAMRIID and personally witnessed their West Nile Virus campaign, no doubt many other diseases and poisoned vaccines have been deployed. And this nonsense about "herd immunity". Sorry, I'm not a herd member, I'm not a chattel being. The Good Lord gave us an immune system for a damn good reason. His Commandment says "Thou shalt not adulterate" for a damn good reason. The lockdown was simply a planned part of Operation COVID, that which has created an American Holodomor.
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    Watch out, too much truth being exposed, usually means, some kind of action taken against the ones that dare expose such truth.
    Which is the way the world operates. nuff said...--Tyr
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    Unmasking The Science You Aren’t Hearing On TV | COVID-19 Facts from the Frontline | Tony Robbins
    Tony Robbins collects info about Covid1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Unmasking The Science You Aren’t Hearing On TV | COVID-19 Facts from the Frontline | Tony Robbins
    Tony Robbins collects info about Covid1984.
    Great video about the covid1984 political propaganda campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    CBN News
    'Clinging to Old and Faulty Models': Was the Lockdown a Colossal Mistake?



    yes it was.
    I agree 100%. Great video.

    There is an interesting phenomenon that I am starting to see now that the truth is coming out. Those who actually bought into the political propaganda campaign, especially those who should have known better, are now showing symptoms of choice-supportive bias/ post purchase rationalization. Gotta watch your step around those types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Dogger View Post
    For me there's no debate about the COVID lockdown, COVID is simply another in a long line of "vector studies" conducted by USAMRIID and the WHO. And the "immune response" exhibited by the planet due to COVID, no doubt TPTB have been trying for decades to do this. Congress has been investigating their foray into Lyme Disease, I was at USAMRIID and personally witnessed their West Nile Virus campaign, no doubt many other diseases and poisoned vaccines have been deployed. And this nonsense about "herd immunity". Sorry, I'm not a herd member, I'm not a chattel being. The Good Lord gave us an immune system for a damn good reason. His Commandment says "Thou shalt not adulterate" for a damn good reason. The lockdown was simply a planned part of Operation COVID, that which has created an American Holodomor.

    Have you also evaluated the possibility that the covid political campaign is not directly connected to the usamriid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I agree 100%. Great video.

    There is an interesting phenomenon that I am starting to see now that the truth is coming out. Those who actually bought into the political propaganda campaign, especially those who should have known better, are now showing symptoms of choice-supportive bias/ post purchase rationalization. Gotta watch your step around those types.
    Here's the link to the Longer interview with the Docs in the video. It's very informative and
    bottom line lets people know that the death rate is a bit worse than a serious flu season.
    And (as we know) the majority of people effected are people over 65. (50-90% of the case).
    https://www.tonyrobbins.com/podcasts...the-frontline/

    If people are concerned about science it's here.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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