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    They are on the news telling you that things are back to the highest level ever, matching things back in April. But look at the death count comparison, now and back to April. Not even remotely close.



    Now I'm not saying it's all a lie and that virus numbers in certain areas have not gone up. They have. But the testing is spiking daily, but the ICU and deaths are clearly not the same as they were.

    Herd immunity a little? I dunno. I will guarantee you this much though - with an incentive of $13,000 and can be upgraded to $52,000, there IS abuse of numbers taking place. And then many others will simply omit what they don't like, twist things, report one and not another, and whatever it takes to instill fear and keep it going.

    Seems like the virus is a lot less lethal in some areas. And I will also guarantee you that many many out there will take tests of folks, where it comes back showing they had the virus due to antibodies showing, and they will simply count that as a positive. We have actually read about and seen this from the medical folks themselves!! But the things they can't make up easily are their folks in the ICU and people dying. And they are simply not at the same level.

    I don't trust the news to tell me the truth. I don't trust the politicians. I don't even trust the hospitals much with the amount of abuse we have seen.

    Now - who here has read about or seen on the news - that while cases are up, the amount of deaths appear to be nothing like what they were? I know I didn't. News in NY is having you believe things are at the worst they ever were, and we may need to lock down again and blah blah blah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    They are on the news telling you that things are back to the highest level ever, matching things back in April. But look at the death count comparison, now and back to April. Not even remotely close.



    Now I'm not saying it's all a lie and that virus numbers in certain areas have not gone up. They have. But the testing is spiking daily, but the ICU and deaths are clearly not the same as they were.

    Herd immunity a little? I dunno. I will guarantee you this much though - with an incentive of $13,000 and can be upgraded to $52,000, there IS abuse of numbers taking place. And then many others will simply omit what they don't like, twist things, report one and not another, and whatever it takes to instill fear and keep it going.

    Seems like the virus is a lot less lethal in some areas. And I will also guarantee you that many many out there will take tests of folks, where it comes back showing they had the virus due to antibodies showing, and they will simply count that as a positive. We have actually read about and seen this from the medical folks themselves!! But the things they can't make up easily are their folks in the ICU and people dying. And they are simply not at the same level.

    I don't trust the news to tell me the truth. I don't trust the politicians. I don't even trust the hospitals much with the amount of abuse we have seen.

    Now - who here has read about or seen on the news - that while cases are up, the amount of deaths appear to be nothing like what they were? I know I didn't. News in NY is having you believe things are at the worst they ever were, and we may need to lock down again and blah blah blah.
    Yes, there is a covid19 virus--no it is not the fire-breathing, earth shattering deadliest monster ever!
    It has been played that way-- as a political tool. a political weapon from the start.
    I never bought into it and I even predicted --THEY- would use it to the maxx to weaken us, weaken this nation, disrupt our unity and grab as much power as - THEY- can grab( use it to badger, club and beat Trump).
    Yes, all of that has happened and now -THEY- want to start round TWO of their damn lying.
    THEY need round two- to cover for Absent-senile Joe and other things- THEY- have in the mix--including attempting greater and greater disruption and even great disunity ( greater violence).--Tyr
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    ​A little something here that pertains to the thread...

    "Well what do you know? States that didn't lock down have 75% lower COVID death rates than those that did!Useful info as the media and “experts” continue their screeching about a 2nd wave, and issue demands that we must once again lock down for survival."




    This could be very useful information in the weeks to come, as the

    media and “experts” continue their screeching about a second

    wave, and issue demands that we must once again lock down for

    the survival of humanity.


    These are the people who always tell us they make their decisions

    based on science and data, right? (Except when it comes to

    determining a person’s gender.) So you’d think they’d be interested

    in the now-available data that compares what happened in the 42

    lockdown states compared with the eight who didn’t lock down."

    More:
    https://hermancain.com/know-states-d...sharingbuttons




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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    They are on the news telling you that things are back to the highest level ever, matching things back in April. But look at the death count comparison, now and back to April. Not even remotely close.



    Now I'm not saying it's all a lie and that virus numbers in certain areas have not gone up. They have. But the testing is spiking daily, but the ICU and deaths are clearly not the same as they were.

    Herd immunity a little? I dunno. I will guarantee you this much though - with an incentive of $13,000 and can be upgraded to $52,000, there IS abuse of numbers taking place. And then many others will simply omit what they don't like, twist things, report one and not another, and whatever it takes to instill fear and keep it going.

    Seems like the virus is a lot less lethal in some areas. And I will also guarantee you that many many out there will take tests of folks, where it comes back showing they had the virus due to antibodies showing, and they will simply count that as a positive. We have actually read about and seen this from the medical folks themselves!! But the things they can't make up easily are their folks in the ICU and people dying. And they are simply not at the same level.

    I don't trust the news to tell me the truth. I don't trust the politicians. I don't even trust the hospitals much with the amount of abuse we have seen.

    Now - who here has read about or seen on the news - that while cases are up, the amount of deaths appear to be nothing like what they were? I know I didn't. News in NY is having you believe things are at the worst they ever were, and we may need to lock down again and blah blah blah.
    The 'hit' areas right now don't have the population of NYC, nor in all honesty does the country really care about the areas getting hit. As the earlier post I put up stated, parts of TX will go over their available ICU beds today and the numbers of beds available in the areas are coming close to capacity. Arizona is now over 87% of ICU beds. But there's no panic from those no longer heavily affected by the virus.

    Like Gunny said earlier, on another thread-like 3rd or 4th thread? No panic here, but people are for the most part masking up and staying home. Yesterday was like 'we were getting hit with 28" of snow, get what you need and out."

    The sickness and deaths are happening, just like in NYC, but the numbers involved are much smaller.

    The docs are now more aware of what works best and alternatives to try when it doesn't.

    Younger, healthier people are getting hit in numbers that didn't happen out east.


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    "Actual Number from the virus"

    Wait...Joe Knows...





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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    "Actual Number from the virus"

    Wait...Joe Knows...


    And that is the imbecilic clown that --THEY- want to put in charge of the nation!
    In other words, that is the puppet being used to front for Soros, Valerie Jarret, dem party and the globalists-the later
    the ones that would truly be 100% in charge were idiot Joe elected..
    No wonder so many are scared to death of V-19--
    120 million dead, you got that straight from the horses's mouth-- umm I mean straight
    from the jackass's mouth.!- --Tyr
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    Some more numbers ... especially Arizona.
    Confirmed COVID-19 cases in Arizona hit 63,030 Thursday and nearly one-third of those cases — 19,585 — have come in the last seven days, according to data from the Arizona Department of Health Services. Arizona set its single-day high for the greatest number of new cases on Tuesday, June 23, with 3,591.
    There were 3,056 new cases reported on Thursday, June 25. And as of Thursday, June 25, there have been 1,490 COVID-19 related deaths in the state, an increase of 27 from the previous day.
    Here is a look at Arizona’s alarming seven-day increase:
    June 19: 3,246 new cases
    June 20: 3,109 new cases
    June 21: 2,592 new cases
    June 22: 2,196 new cases
    June 23: 3,591 new cases
    June 24: 1,795 new cases
    June 25: 3,056 new cases
    The spike in positive cases comes several weeks after the May 15 lifting of Arizona’s stay-at-home orders, when businesses began reopening, public protests that followed the deaths of black men at the hands of police, and Memorial Day weekend, when many Arizonans left their homes to celebrate.

    So how do COVID-19 numbers compare nationally with other illnesses and pandemics? STAT first compared COVID-19 death projections to past pandemics and leading causes of death in early April to help Americans get a better sense of the numbers. The previous comparison used projections from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which now estimates the death toll will be 72,433 by Aug. 4. IHME previously predicted a death toll of 60,000, which the U.S. surpassed April 29.
    For the updated comparison, STAT used a model created by Youyang Gu, an independent data scientist. The model projects 88,217 to 293,381 deaths by early August.
    How this projection stacks up to past pandemics and flu seasons:

    1. 1918 flu pandemic: 675,000 deaths
    2. COVID-19 pandemic: 88,217 to 293,381 projected deaths
    3. 2017-18 flu season: 61,000 deaths
    4. 2018-19 flu season: 34,200 deaths
    5. 2009 swine flu pandemic: 12,469 deaths

    How this projection stacks up to the nation’s leading causes of death:

    1. Heart disease: 269,583 deaths
    2. Cancer: 252,500 deaths (based on 2019 data)
    3. COVID-19 pandemic: 88,217 to 293,381 projected deaths
    4. Stroke: 60,833 deaths
    5. Alzheimer’s disease: 50,417 deaths
    6. Drug overdoses: 29,265 deaths
    7. Suicide: 19,583 deaths
    For entire article with more stats

    https://azbigmedia.com/business/covi...n-last-7-days/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Some more numbers ... especially Arizona.


    For entire article with more stats

    https://azbigmedia.com/business/covi...n-last-7-days/
    Quite sobering reality when one looks at those numbers and realizes this nation was shut down, tens of millions jobs lost, trillions lost , trillions spent,hundreds of thousands businesses forced into permanent closure, millions of families needlessly and negatively affected -while those numbers shows what a catastrophic mistake was made and how we citizens suffered due to that deliberately insidious political STRATEGY/TACTIC/AGENDA
    Yet this truth , this reality will not end up yielding justice to be brought to those that used C-19 as a weapon.
    For truth is they will escape unharmed because they are the media, the dem party , the globalists- and --they- are well beyond justice because Americans have been being blinded for many decades now. By a dem engineered liberal/socialist public school system and higher education indoctrination centers-- colleges .
    My guess is that it is now in too deep to ever be rectified, short of a full blown civil war...
    Which would in itself very likely be our tragic demise as well, imho..
    A grim outlook to say the least but one that by looking at how things are now- one that is warranted and likely to bear very evil and tragic fruits, imho..Tyr
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    Exactly 4 months ago, President Trump said this:"You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero."

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    Was gonna create a new thread to start a daily tracker like I did when NY/NJ and such was in horrible shape, don't wanna upset the apple cart and what not....

    And this is much too early numbers anyway, like the Dems blaming Trump for spreading the virus due to his rally, like 15 minutes after it ended.

    Anyway, too early to look at deaths? Folks getting to ventilator status like it was back then? Percentages?

    I fully understand that smaller populations would therefore present smaller numbers of infections, hospitalizations and deaths. But I would think that eventually, folks sickened the same around the nation, that the numbers would bear out similarly.

    The numbers of infected have skyrocketed again. And hospitalizations in many areas rising up and meeting limits. But folks on ventilators? And thus far, seems like it's almost half as deadly. But that is at this moment, they could start dropping like flies tomorrow for all I know. Just don't get scared at the June 26th deaths of 2,000+ - as that was when states around the nation added in all of the updated deaths, basically by guessing. Additional deaths were added of folks that never took a test, just that after review that they 'think' that's why this person died. And the next day the deaths dropped back down by 1800.

    In New York, nearly 8% of the total confirmed cases died. You can see NJ, who was hit at the same time, had similar percentages. And now the other states that have been getting hammered, not nearly as many have died since this went crazy. This is NOT to say that they all don't die overnight, just reporting hard numbers right now is all. I HOPE it stays this way, for whatever reason it is.

    I have read reports about the virus mutating in different strains and the virus being less deadly at times/places. Doesn't seem to be any logic or reason behind it, just what the virus is doing.

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%

    Texas - 1.67%
    Arizona - 2.3%
    California - 2.83%
    Florida - 2.55%
    Georgia - 3.79%
    Illinois - 4.8%
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    Reading some stories and figures currently, and many of the states, especially Florida and Texas they say, are more and more younger folks, and that this is happening in many more states.

    I wonder why in the world that suddenly the younger folks numbers of infections skyrocketed?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Reading some stories and figures currently, and many of the states, especially Florida and Texas they say, are more and more younger folks, and that this is happening in many more states.

    I wonder why in the world that suddenly the younger folks numbers of infections skyrocketed?
    They are out at the bars and beaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    They are out at the bars and beaches.
    Yes, far too many, and even I admit that. Some things are common sense when it comes to a virus spreading....

    until suddenly excused for a protest where folks say "well that's different" - and count many of them folks in with all of these numbers around the country. They may get excused from things, but you don't get excused from health issues. I know, it's different, and no one at all got sick.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    I think Pete is right. Well, that and the protests and riots. "Younger" folks (up to 30 yrs old) are out socializing like crazy. My own daughter's friends want to get together tonight in a group of around 10-12. No masks, no distancing. To protect us, she declined to go. But she most likely would have otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I think Pete is right. Well, that and the protests and riots. "Younger" folks (up to 30 yrs old) are out socializing like crazy. My own daughter's friends want to get together tonight in a group of around 10-12. No masks, no distancing. To protect us, she declined to go. But she most likely would have otherwise.
    Yups, from the beginning the younger folks have treated things as if they are invincible and ignored the ability to pass it along. Far too many partying and hitting up clubs and what not. And some others on the right I saw videos of, screaming about masks and being muzzled like a mad dog and other excuses. I don't care if you're 25 years old, 90 years old, at a bar, at the beach or out protesting - you are ALL being irresponsible and taking too many chances without masks and even with, and still not taking precautions of passing it, or respecting those that may be more susceptible, or those wearing masks not wanting to be in a closed environment with someone screaming and spittling and they rant about how the masks are the devils pawn and democrat control.

    So the median age dropped, and many many younger folks have now gotten sick. Drinking doesn't make someone immune from catching it or spreading it. Hitting the beaches doesn't make one immune. Protesting a cause one believes in doesn't make one immune.

    So I think a combination of all the above has contributed larger numbers of younger sick.... and not really provable - but those resisting rules and common sense - just how many people did they inadvertently get sick themselves?

    I think it WILL eventually come back here. Folks get sick elsewhere, come back here and voila. And idiots here, many younger, are already back to abusing things without masks and doing as they please and acting as if it's over. Many stores I have been to, smaller stores, they aren't even enforcing their own written rules of masks required. So, only a matter of time.

    For me, I have treated things the same from day one. I take care of number one, and my family as well. I more or less do all the leaving of the home, and I ensure I am still doing the same disinfecting and mask thing everywhere I go. Go out to 3 stores and hit the gas station for gas and a drink and snack inside.... in total I wear a mask for approx. 10 mins each in the stores, and about 2 minutes in the station. An extra 5 mins total on top of that for disinfecting at each stop. Get everything done that I need, 30 minutes of my life in a mask - and also peace of mind while I got the things done, and a couple minutes of cleaning. So hard? Not at all.
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