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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Some more numbers ... especially Arizona.


    For entire article with more stats

    https://azbigmedia.com/business/covi...n-last-7-days/
    Quite sobering reality when one looks at those numbers and realizes this nation was shut down, tens of millions jobs lost, trillions lost , trillions spent,hundreds of thousands businesses forced into permanent closure, millions of families needlessly and negatively affected -while those numbers shows what a catastrophic mistake was made and how we citizens suffered due to that deliberately insidious political STRATEGY/TACTIC/AGENDA
    Yet this truth , this reality will not end up yielding justice to be brought to those that used C-19 as a weapon.
    For truth is they will escape unharmed because they are the media, the dem party , the globalists- and --they- are well beyond justice because Americans have been being blinded for many decades now. By a dem engineered liberal/socialist public school system and higher education indoctrination centers-- colleges .
    My guess is that it is now in too deep to ever be rectified, short of a full blown civil war...
    Which would in itself very likely be our tragic demise as well, imho..
    A grim outlook to say the least but one that by looking at how things are now- one that is warranted and likely to bear very evil and tragic fruits, imho..Tyr
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    Exactly 4 months ago, President Trump said this:"You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero."

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    Was gonna create a new thread to start a daily tracker like I did when NY/NJ and such was in horrible shape, don't wanna upset the apple cart and what not....

    And this is much too early numbers anyway, like the Dems blaming Trump for spreading the virus due to his rally, like 15 minutes after it ended.

    Anyway, too early to look at deaths? Folks getting to ventilator status like it was back then? Percentages?

    I fully understand that smaller populations would therefore present smaller numbers of infections, hospitalizations and deaths. But I would think that eventually, folks sickened the same around the nation, that the numbers would bear out similarly.

    The numbers of infected have skyrocketed again. And hospitalizations in many areas rising up and meeting limits. But folks on ventilators? And thus far, seems like it's almost half as deadly. But that is at this moment, they could start dropping like flies tomorrow for all I know. Just don't get scared at the June 26th deaths of 2,000+ - as that was when states around the nation added in all of the updated deaths, basically by guessing. Additional deaths were added of folks that never took a test, just that after review that they 'think' that's why this person died. And the next day the deaths dropped back down by 1800.

    In New York, nearly 8% of the total confirmed cases died. You can see NJ, who was hit at the same time, had similar percentages. And now the other states that have been getting hammered, not nearly as many have died since this went crazy. This is NOT to say that they all don't die overnight, just reporting hard numbers right now is all. I HOPE it stays this way, for whatever reason it is.

    I have read reports about the virus mutating in different strains and the virus being less deadly at times/places. Doesn't seem to be any logic or reason behind it, just what the virus is doing.

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%

    Texas - 1.67%
    Arizona - 2.3%
    California - 2.83%
    Florida - 2.55%
    Georgia - 3.79%
    Illinois - 4.8%
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    Reading some stories and figures currently, and many of the states, especially Florida and Texas they say, are more and more younger folks, and that this is happening in many more states.

    I wonder why in the world that suddenly the younger folks numbers of infections skyrocketed?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Reading some stories and figures currently, and many of the states, especially Florida and Texas they say, are more and more younger folks, and that this is happening in many more states.

    I wonder why in the world that suddenly the younger folks numbers of infections skyrocketed?
    They are out at the bars and beaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    They are out at the bars and beaches.
    Yes, far too many, and even I admit that. Some things are common sense when it comes to a virus spreading....

    until suddenly excused for a protest where folks say "well that's different" - and count many of them folks in with all of these numbers around the country. They may get excused from things, but you don't get excused from health issues. I know, it's different, and no one at all got sick.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    I think Pete is right. Well, that and the protests and riots. "Younger" folks (up to 30 yrs old) are out socializing like crazy. My own daughter's friends want to get together tonight in a group of around 10-12. No masks, no distancing. To protect us, she declined to go. But she most likely would have otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%

    Texas - 1.67%
    Arizona - 2.3%
    California - 2.83%
    Florida - 2.55%
    Georgia - 3.79%
    Illinois - 4.8%
    So we all know that numbers have still been rising in many areas. No doubt about that one. And hospitalizations as well. But still not the ventilator use and deaths - yet - and let's hope it continues in this manner in respect to them.

    The numbers above, Illinois has changed since then to 4.84% - every other location I listed has actually went DOWN in the death department. And I think it's reasoning is similar to what the Lt. Governor states here. A lot more being tested are younger folks as well. Those numbers have increased dramatically. Along with many folks 20-50 hospitalized. But the younger folks are faring better and responding better and not ending up on ventilators or dying. That's primarily still folks 60,70,80+. So that would explain why increasing numbers but the others not following along. And I'm ok with that in that respect! Less deaths and folks ending up on ventilators and dying. I just hope that it would continue like this and then lessen overall as time goes by. But the deaths could start increasing... And the death rate isn't "flat", just much much lower is all.

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    Lt. Gov. Patrick: Texas Coronavirus Fatalities Remain Flat — ‘I Think We’re Doing It Right’

    Monday on “Fox News @ Night,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R-TX) insisted the doom and gloom portrayed by the media regarding COVID-19 and Texas was not reflective of reality.

    Patrick insisted compared to other states, fatalities were low in Texas and the curve had flattened despite a “sky is falling” narrative.

    “I think sometimes present company excluded on Fox, but the rest of the media wants us to come out and say the sky is falling and run for the hills,” he said. “And on the other hand, if you if you come out and you’re too positive, and you give people hope, you know, they criticize that. So, no matter what you say, the media is ready to pounce on you, particularly if you’re a Republican. They don’t talk about California and New York. They really talk about Texas. Well, let me tell you about Texas. So, we are still flat and right where we were in fatalities going back a month or two months ago. For example, we had 10 deaths in the report today, every life is valuable. But 10, we had 47 the other day, then we had 20, then we had 30. What I’m watching Shannon, is that key indicator: how many people are dying from this? And across the country, we’ve seen that flatten, and we’ve seen that flatten so far and prayerfully that will continue.”

    “So, I look at that number,” Patrick continued. ‘Secondly, yes, our cases, we had four more thousand cases today, but that’s down 1000 cases from yesterday. So, I never look at one day, I look at you know, weeks, two weeks at a time. And right now, our hospitalizations are up with young people. They’re going to the hospital. They’re staying less time and they’re coming out and they’re not dying from this. Now, that doesn’t mean that we won’t see fatalities with people under 50, but for the most part, it’s cases going up because we’re testing more and more young people. Real quick, Shannon, here’s, here’s part of that. Back in March and April, the people who were getting tested and the people who were going to the hospital were primarily over 65 that’s what we were testing. They weren’t out socializing with each other, so it was not spreading as quickly. But now, once we’ve unleashed everyone under 50, to go out and socialize together, they’re not like the seniors where, they’re not wearing masks. They’re next to each other. They’re not being careful. And that’s the reason the positivity rate is up.”

    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...oing-it-right/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    So we all know that numbers have still been rising in many areas. No doubt about that one. And hospitalizations as well. But still not the ventilator use and deaths - yet - and let's hope it continues in this manner in respect to them.

    The numbers above, Illinois has changed since then to 4.84% - every other location I listed has actually went DOWN in the death department. And I think it's reasoning is similar to what the Lt. Governor states here. A lot more being tested are younger folks as well. Those numbers have increased dramatically. Along with many folks 20-50 hospitalized. But the younger folks are faring better and responding better and not ending up on ventilators or dying. That's primarily still folks 60,70,80+. So that would explain why increasing numbers but the others not following along. And I'm ok with that in that respect! Less deaths and folks ending up on ventilators and dying. I just hope that it would continue like this and then lessen overall as time goes by. But the deaths could start increasing... And the death rate isn't "flat", just much much lower is all.

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    Lt. Gov. Patrick: Texas Coronavirus Fatalities Remain Flat — ‘I Think We’re Doing It Right’

    Monday on “Fox News @ Night,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R-TX) insisted the doom and gloom portrayed by the media regarding COVID-19 and Texas was not reflective of reality.

    Patrick insisted compared to other states, fatalities were low in Texas and the curve had flattened despite a “sky is falling” narrative.

    “I think sometimes present company excluded on Fox, but the rest of the media wants us to come out and say the sky is falling and run for the hills,” he said. “And on the other hand, if you if you come out and you’re too positive, and you give people hope, you know, they criticize that. So, no matter what you say, the media is ready to pounce on you, particularly if you’re a Republican. They don’t talk about California and New York. They really talk about Texas. Well, let me tell you about Texas. So, we are still flat and right where we were in fatalities going back a month or two months ago. For example, we had 10 deaths in the report today, every life is valuable. But 10, we had 47 the other day, then we had 20, then we had 30. What I’m watching Shannon, is that key indicator: how many people are dying from this? And across the country, we’ve seen that flatten, and we’ve seen that flatten so far and prayerfully that will continue.”

    “So, I look at that number,” Patrick continued. ‘Secondly, yes, our cases, we had four more thousand cases today, but that’s down 1000 cases from yesterday. So, I never look at one day, I look at you know, weeks, two weeks at a time. And right now, our hospitalizations are up with young people. They’re going to the hospital. They’re staying less time and they’re coming out and they’re not dying from this. Now, that doesn’t mean that we won’t see fatalities with people under 50, but for the most part, it’s cases going up because we’re testing more and more young people. Real quick, Shannon, here’s, here’s part of that. Back in March and April, the people who were getting tested and the people who were going to the hospital were primarily over 65 that’s what we were testing. They weren’t out socializing with each other, so it was not spreading as quickly. But now, once we’ve unleashed everyone under 50, to go out and socialize together, they’re not like the seniors where, they’re not wearing masks. They’re next to each other. They’re not being careful. And that’s the reason the positivity rate is up.”

    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...oing-it-right/
    This below says all that needs to be said about the lying, manipulation and agenda driven doom and gloom being promoted by politicians in regards to just how deadly or how serious this virus really is. Some of us saw this and knew way back in early March this was going to be so overblown by dems/leftists/mainstream media in order to achieve political agenda/goals.
    And we did not buy into it. --Tyr



    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”
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    Continue to keep your fingers crossed folks. Thus far the numbers I posted have been holding, and lowering in fact. While the MSM is going on and on about fear porn and stressing the daily positive testing count, and of course trying to limit Trump rallies, Trump fireworks, Trump anything. And of course giving their blessing for anything from the left happening in the streets, in public...

    At any rate, what they aren't telling you on the lefty television, is that while these tests bring about new infections, more and more is younger folks, folks that recover much more quickly and don't nearly have the same negative effects that hit someone 70+. So the death rate started to go down about 2 months ago, and continued, and still continues downward.

    Of course we would love it in a perfect world that the number of infections disappeared, but that's not happening until a vaccine comes out. So the best we can do, is limit some things, protect ourselves and others, and the main goal should be to avoid to begin with - and of course seeing less deaths is a positive even if in the middle of it.

    Not gonna post a ton of graphs and numbers, they are all over the place if anyone WANTS to know and see them, and doesn't rely on the politicians and media politicians for such info.

    This is the percentage of folks that got sick, and what percentage of them died. Not a scary as percentage as it may appear. The first number for each was as of 7 days ago, and the second number is up to date. Looks like Illinois moved up a hair, and the rest went down.

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01
    California - 2.83% 2.53
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82

    As another reminder, this was/is NJ and NY when they/we were getting hit hard.

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%
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    HUGE news in the past week is the every day fear porn of daily records being broken with new infections from testing. BIG red letters everywhere. DON'T do this and DON'T do that.

    HUGE news today in Florida setting a new record.

    They are handling this and delivering the news as if this is a dang olympic event. The media seems to only care about fear, rising numbers, masks, don't go out, especially to a Trump rally!

    RISING and PEAKS and PREDICTIONS and FEAR and HAVOC and again with the non-stop red letters on these sites. Literally these are their words, and day after day. No good news, even if there really are some other things they can share with everyone, but they stick with fear and chaos. That stuff is bad for America, and I truly think it's what so many of them want right now.

    Florida, Florida, Florida. And Damn, with my Dad down there, it did and still does scare me. Dad is 84, so for him it's more than real, and more than something that he needs to be wary of and protective of. But still, as I told him a short while ago, they don't want to share that the death counts have been lowering and lowering. And that even Florida has been lowering the death count, but rising tests and rising numbers of younger folks.

    This was 8 days ago in Florida, then yesterday, and now today. You can see the continued drop.

    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94

    As I've been saying though, unfortunately, this thing is unpredictable, and too many unknowns. So I still have to say this is what is happening "for now". I am hopeful it continues in this fashion, and that we are in fact lowering the curve. But we went from little testing in the beginning, painfully little I recall. Then it picked up, and now in many places it's running at full speed. But there is still much to be seen from the incubation periods. Between so many out there for protests and it continued on and on in various areas and still does, most of that period has went by. Trump's first rally, incubation is over. Much of the back and forth fighting of what is ok and what's not, those periods have went by. But let's hope that it continues with increasing testing, hopefully "knock on wood" we'll be able to tame the daily increases, hopefully learn and protect the elderly and compromised better, and if a "must live with it" situation for now, try and limit as best as possible, and for the young healthy bastards. And with luck, the folks dying will continue on the same 2 month downward trend.

    Here are the others in that same 8 days and today, and the same trend in all of them.

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41 1.39
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01 1.97
    California - 2.83% 2.53 2.51
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24 3.15
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82 4.80
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