Page 2 of 12 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 172
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%

    Texas - 1.67%
    Arizona - 2.3%
    California - 2.83%
    Florida - 2.55%
    Georgia - 3.79%
    Illinois - 4.8%
    So we all know that numbers have still been rising in many areas. No doubt about that one. And hospitalizations as well. But still not the ventilator use and deaths - yet - and let's hope it continues in this manner in respect to them.

    The numbers above, Illinois has changed since then to 4.84% - every other location I listed has actually went DOWN in the death department. And I think it's reasoning is similar to what the Lt. Governor states here. A lot more being tested are younger folks as well. Those numbers have increased dramatically. Along with many folks 20-50 hospitalized. But the younger folks are faring better and responding better and not ending up on ventilators or dying. That's primarily still folks 60,70,80+. So that would explain why increasing numbers but the others not following along. And I'm ok with that in that respect! Less deaths and folks ending up on ventilators and dying. I just hope that it would continue like this and then lessen overall as time goes by. But the deaths could start increasing... And the death rate isn't "flat", just much much lower is all.

    --

    Lt. Gov. Patrick: Texas Coronavirus Fatalities Remain Flat — ‘I Think We’re Doing It Right’

    Monday on “Fox News @ Night,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R-TX) insisted the doom and gloom portrayed by the media regarding COVID-19 and Texas was not reflective of reality.

    Patrick insisted compared to other states, fatalities were low in Texas and the curve had flattened despite a “sky is falling” narrative.

    “I think sometimes present company excluded on Fox, but the rest of the media wants us to come out and say the sky is falling and run for the hills,” he said. “And on the other hand, if you if you come out and you’re too positive, and you give people hope, you know, they criticize that. So, no matter what you say, the media is ready to pounce on you, particularly if you’re a Republican. They don’t talk about California and New York. They really talk about Texas. Well, let me tell you about Texas. So, we are still flat and right where we were in fatalities going back a month or two months ago. For example, we had 10 deaths in the report today, every life is valuable. But 10, we had 47 the other day, then we had 20, then we had 30. What I’m watching Shannon, is that key indicator: how many people are dying from this? And across the country, we’ve seen that flatten, and we’ve seen that flatten so far and prayerfully that will continue.”

    “So, I look at that number,” Patrick continued. ‘Secondly, yes, our cases, we had four more thousand cases today, but that’s down 1000 cases from yesterday. So, I never look at one day, I look at you know, weeks, two weeks at a time. And right now, our hospitalizations are up with young people. They’re going to the hospital. They’re staying less time and they’re coming out and they’re not dying from this. Now, that doesn’t mean that we won’t see fatalities with people under 50, but for the most part, it’s cases going up because we’re testing more and more young people. Real quick, Shannon, here’s, here’s part of that. Back in March and April, the people who were getting tested and the people who were going to the hospital were primarily over 65 that’s what we were testing. They weren’t out socializing with each other, so it was not spreading as quickly. But now, once we’ve unleashed everyone under 50, to go out and socialize together, they’re not like the seniors where, they’re not wearing masks. They’re next to each other. They’re not being careful. And that’s the reason the positivity rate is up.”

    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...oing-it-right/
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  2. #17
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    USA, Southern
    Posts
    27,683
    Thanks (Given)
    32441
    Thanks (Received)
    17532
    Likes (Given)
    3631
    Likes (Received)
    3156
    Piss Off (Given)
    21
    Piss Off (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475257

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    So we all know that numbers have still been rising in many areas. No doubt about that one. And hospitalizations as well. But still not the ventilator use and deaths - yet - and let's hope it continues in this manner in respect to them.

    The numbers above, Illinois has changed since then to 4.84% - every other location I listed has actually went DOWN in the death department. And I think it's reasoning is similar to what the Lt. Governor states here. A lot more being tested are younger folks as well. Those numbers have increased dramatically. Along with many folks 20-50 hospitalized. But the younger folks are faring better and responding better and not ending up on ventilators or dying. That's primarily still folks 60,70,80+. So that would explain why increasing numbers but the others not following along. And I'm ok with that in that respect! Less deaths and folks ending up on ventilators and dying. I just hope that it would continue like this and then lessen overall as time goes by. But the deaths could start increasing... And the death rate isn't "flat", just much much lower is all.

    --

    Lt. Gov. Patrick: Texas Coronavirus Fatalities Remain Flat — ‘I Think We’re Doing It Right’

    Monday on “Fox News @ Night,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R-TX) insisted the doom and gloom portrayed by the media regarding COVID-19 and Texas was not reflective of reality.

    Patrick insisted compared to other states, fatalities were low in Texas and the curve had flattened despite a “sky is falling” narrative.

    “I think sometimes present company excluded on Fox, but the rest of the media wants us to come out and say the sky is falling and run for the hills,” he said. “And on the other hand, if you if you come out and you’re too positive, and you give people hope, you know, they criticize that. So, no matter what you say, the media is ready to pounce on you, particularly if you’re a Republican. They don’t talk about California and New York. They really talk about Texas. Well, let me tell you about Texas. So, we are still flat and right where we were in fatalities going back a month or two months ago. For example, we had 10 deaths in the report today, every life is valuable. But 10, we had 47 the other day, then we had 20, then we had 30. What I’m watching Shannon, is that key indicator: how many people are dying from this? And across the country, we’ve seen that flatten, and we’ve seen that flatten so far and prayerfully that will continue.”

    “So, I look at that number,” Patrick continued. ‘Secondly, yes, our cases, we had four more thousand cases today, but that’s down 1000 cases from yesterday. So, I never look at one day, I look at you know, weeks, two weeks at a time. And right now, our hospitalizations are up with young people. They’re going to the hospital. They’re staying less time and they’re coming out and they’re not dying from this. Now, that doesn’t mean that we won’t see fatalities with people under 50, but for the most part, it’s cases going up because we’re testing more and more young people. Real quick, Shannon, here’s, here’s part of that. Back in March and April, the people who were getting tested and the people who were going to the hospital were primarily over 65 that’s what we were testing. They weren’t out socializing with each other, so it was not spreading as quickly. But now, once we’ve unleashed everyone under 50, to go out and socialize together, they’re not like the seniors where, they’re not wearing masks. They’re next to each other. They’re not being careful. And that’s the reason the positivity rate is up.”

    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...oing-it-right/
    This below says all that needs to be said about the lying, manipulation and agenda driven doom and gloom being promoted by politicians in regards to just how deadly or how serious this virus really is. Some of us saw this and knew way back in early March this was going to be so overblown by dems/leftists/mainstream media in order to achieve political agenda/goals.
    And we did not buy into it. --Tyr



    “But I still look at Texas, we have eight deaths per 100,000 people,” he added. “New York has 161 deaths per 100,000 people. And even California, that locked down during this whole time why we’ve been opening, they have 15 deaths per 100,000. So, compare California and New York to Texas. We’re doing it right. The only places, Shannon, that have lower deaths in Texas, are Guam, Puerto Rico, Oregon, West Virginia and Utah. I think we’re doing it right, but prayerfully we keep doing it right.”
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

  3. Thanks LongTermGuy thanked this post
    Likes LongTermGuy, jimnyc liked this post
  4. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Continue to keep your fingers crossed folks. Thus far the numbers I posted have been holding, and lowering in fact. While the MSM is going on and on about fear porn and stressing the daily positive testing count, and of course trying to limit Trump rallies, Trump fireworks, Trump anything. And of course giving their blessing for anything from the left happening in the streets, in public...

    At any rate, what they aren't telling you on the lefty television, is that while these tests bring about new infections, more and more is younger folks, folks that recover much more quickly and don't nearly have the same negative effects that hit someone 70+. So the death rate started to go down about 2 months ago, and continued, and still continues downward.

    Of course we would love it in a perfect world that the number of infections disappeared, but that's not happening until a vaccine comes out. So the best we can do, is limit some things, protect ourselves and others, and the main goal should be to avoid to begin with - and of course seeing less deaths is a positive even if in the middle of it.

    Not gonna post a ton of graphs and numbers, they are all over the place if anyone WANTS to know and see them, and doesn't rely on the politicians and media politicians for such info.

    This is the percentage of folks that got sick, and what percentage of them died. Not a scary as percentage as it may appear. The first number for each was as of 7 days ago, and the second number is up to date. Looks like Illinois moved up a hair, and the rest went down.

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01
    California - 2.83% 2.53
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82

    As another reminder, this was/is NJ and NY when they/we were getting hit hard.

    New York - 7.99%
    New Jersey - 8.74%
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  5. Likes Kathianne liked this post
  6. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    HUGE news in the past week is the every day fear porn of daily records being broken with new infections from testing. BIG red letters everywhere. DON'T do this and DON'T do that.

    HUGE news today in Florida setting a new record.

    They are handling this and delivering the news as if this is a dang olympic event. The media seems to only care about fear, rising numbers, masks, don't go out, especially to a Trump rally!

    RISING and PEAKS and PREDICTIONS and FEAR and HAVOC and again with the non-stop red letters on these sites. Literally these are their words, and day after day. No good news, even if there really are some other things they can share with everyone, but they stick with fear and chaos. That stuff is bad for America, and I truly think it's what so many of them want right now.

    Florida, Florida, Florida. And Damn, with my Dad down there, it did and still does scare me. Dad is 84, so for him it's more than real, and more than something that he needs to be wary of and protective of. But still, as I told him a short while ago, they don't want to share that the death counts have been lowering and lowering. And that even Florida has been lowering the death count, but rising tests and rising numbers of younger folks.

    This was 8 days ago in Florida, then yesterday, and now today. You can see the continued drop.

    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94

    As I've been saying though, unfortunately, this thing is unpredictable, and too many unknowns. So I still have to say this is what is happening "for now". I am hopeful it continues in this fashion, and that we are in fact lowering the curve. But we went from little testing in the beginning, painfully little I recall. Then it picked up, and now in many places it's running at full speed. But there is still much to be seen from the incubation periods. Between so many out there for protests and it continued on and on in various areas and still does, most of that period has went by. Trump's first rally, incubation is over. Much of the back and forth fighting of what is ok and what's not, those periods have went by. But let's hope that it continues with increasing testing, hopefully "knock on wood" we'll be able to tame the daily increases, hopefully learn and protect the elderly and compromised better, and if a "must live with it" situation for now, try and limit as best as possible, and for the young healthy bastards. And with luck, the folks dying will continue on the same 2 month downward trend.

    Here are the others in that same 8 days and today, and the same trend in all of them.

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41 1.39
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01 1.97
    California - 2.83% 2.53 2.51
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24 3.15
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82 4.80
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  7. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    First a quick update again on leading states, the leading fear porn on the media, and the ignored yet continued decline in deaths.

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41 1.39 1.35 1.34
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01 1.97 1.85 1.86
    California - 2.83% 2.53 2.51 2.40
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94 1.86 1.83
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24 3.15 2.99 2.99
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82 4.80 4.76 4.76

    The decline continues even in the latest worst hit states with rising positive tests. The deaths could still pick up again. But we're more than long enough into the outbreaks in these areas where the deaths should have started an upward trend already. So I HOPE and PRAY it continues, for our country and folks here that may live in any affected area, but could go either way. I'm just posting and reporting what the MSM fear creators are failing refusing to report.

    ---

    Falling Daily COVID-19 Deaths Avoided in Most Media Virus Reports

    If the daily deaths from COVID-19 were rising, it is a pretty safe bet that almost all of the mainstream media would be highlighting that statistic. Most likely you would see it in either the headlines or the first paragraphs of reports about the virus. Instead you very rarely see the statistics for the daily COVID-19 deaths. Can you guess why?

    The more media savvy among you have probably already figured out the answer which is that the daily deaths from COVID-19 have been neither rising nor even staying stable. Instead they have been falling since the middle of April at a pretty steady rate even as the number of reported cases, due in large part to more testing, have been rising.

    A typical example of a story in which you-know-what is nowhere mentioned was one of those badly disguised editorials at CNN on Friday by fervent Trump hater Stephen Collinson, which includes the almost obligatory slam at you-know-who in "Rocketing Covid-19 infections expose Trump's callous claim pandemic is 'handled'."

    This is what President Donald Trump's "handled" pandemic looks like.

    The United States, the world leader in Covid-19 infections and deaths, is reeling from an out-of-control resurgence of the virus that is racking up record numbers of 50,000-plus new infections each day now.
    Do you see the word "deaths" above? Well, you won't find it anywhere else in Collinson's rant against Trump and Republicans because any quick analysis of the COVID-19 deaths reveals it is falling which makes it an inconvenient fact for the TDS theme of the story.

    You can read for yourself the rest of Collinson's rant sans you-know-what. Oh, and a reminder to him that hydroxychloroquine has been found ineffective for the treatment of severe TDS.

    Since more more and more people are starting to take notice of the falling COVID-19 daily deaths as the cases rise, CNN on Thursday published a sort of explanation (or excuse) for this by a sort of COVID Death Whisperer, Dr. Kent Sepkowitz who asks "Why have deaths stayed steady while Covid-19 infections are spiking?"



    Rest - https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...-virus-reports
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  8. #21
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Posts
    427
    Thanks (Given)
    72
    Thanks (Received)
    52
    Likes (Given)
    234
    Likes (Received)
    115
    Piss Off (Given)
    10
    Piss Off (Received)
    6
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Those numbers have been faked and falsified. The intent with Operation COVID is getting us vaccinated with something that either causes outright death or within a short time, or death no later than the age of 75. I don't care if you don't believe that, I worked in biological warfare and know exactly what I'm talking about when I say that vaccines are weapons of biological warfare and eugenics. Go ahead and keep believing in a country with a system of state sponsored eugenics called Planned Parenthood, go on and keep believing that organization is concerned with women's health and choice. Operation COVID is our American Holodomor and I'm going to keep saying that until I'm either dead, or you people wake up to what's really going on.

  9. #22
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Dogger View Post
    I don't care if you don't believe that
    Good thing!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  10. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Number of infections still rising, and another day gone by and deaths still going down. Finger crossing works!!

    Texas - 1.67% 1.41 1.39 1.35 1.34 1.30
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01 1.97 1.85 1.86 1.83
    California - 2.83% 2.53 2.51 2.40 2.36
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94 1.86 1.83 1.79
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24 3.15 2.99 2.99 2.96
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82 4.80 4.76 4.76 4.75

    Every one of them has went down again. It does hop around nationally, but overall downward. Perfect example in this photo, showing daily deaths moving up and down a little, but 2 day, 3 day intervals to weekly showing it nothing but downward.



    Overall, a good graph on the rising infections - but the downward trend of deaths:

    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  11. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,811
    Thanks (Given)
    34243
    Thanks (Received)
    26347
    Likes (Given)
    2312
    Likes (Received)
    9910
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    368 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475524

    Default

    Our lockdown is on lockdown right now. They need to come up with a plan, Nation-wide, to deal with this that isn't going to kill everyone. We have real essential services stressed to the breaking point, and we have one HUGE one coming up (the Nation, not just SA): School.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  12. Thanks Kathianne thanked this post
    Likes Kathianne liked this post
  13. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    47,505
    Thanks (Given)
    23714
    Thanks (Received)
    17273
    Likes (Given)
    9550
    Likes (Received)
    6006
    Piss Off (Given)
    85
    Piss Off (Received)
    10
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475521

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Our lockdown is on lockdown right now. They need to come up with a plan, Nation-wide, to deal with this that isn't going to kill everyone. We have real essential services stressed to the breaking point, and we have one HUGE one coming up (the Nation, not just SA): School.
    I’ll write something when I’m home.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


  14. Thanks Gunny thanked this post
  15. #26
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    47,505
    Thanks (Given)
    23714
    Thanks (Received)
    17273
    Likes (Given)
    9550
    Likes (Received)
    6006
    Piss Off (Given)
    85
    Piss Off (Received)
    10
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475521

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Our lockdown is on lockdown right now. They need to come up with a plan, Nation-wide, to deal with this that isn't going to kill everyone. We have real essential services stressed to the breaking point, and we have one HUGE one coming up (the Nation, not just SA): School.
    I think the 'lock downs' and 'school starts' have to begin with the states. AZ has never really locked down and perhaps it wasn't necessary before, but it's likely now that it is. The governor here does not seem to be the brightest bulb on the marquee.

    https://www.azfamily.com/news/contin...321c85379.html
    New COVID data from Harvard tracker suggests Arizona should immediately shut down again
    Briana WhitneyPosted 5 hrs ago

    PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) - New data from the Harvard Global Health Institute shows Arizona in a dire place, so much so that the researchers believe the state should shut down right now.


    The Harvard Global Health Institute is made up of the top scientists in this country, and just last week, they launched their online risk assessment tool for states. Arizona doctor Shad Marvasti said it's one of the best data tools developed during this pandemic, and Arizona is red hot at No. 1 for all the wrong reasons.


    gyms
    “It doesn’t make sense to close gyms but not dine-in for restaurants," Dr. Marvasti said.


    (Source: 3TV/CBS 5)
    Arizona businesses must prove COVID-19 compliance to reopen, but no details released
    “If this is not a crisis and a time for us to shut down, I don’t know what is,” said Dr. Marvasti, with the University of Arizona College of Medicine. “It’s been a number of weeks now that we’ve been much higher than we should be in terms of our community spread, our percent positive.”


    The institute's risk assessment map ranks states as either green, yellow, orange or red.


    Green means states are on track for containment, and on the other side of the scale, red means stay at home orders are necessary.



    Arizona is one of only four red states on the map, and ranked No. 1 in the entire U.S. by the number of new daily cases per 100,000 people. Dr. Marvasti said Gov. Doug Ducey's partial shutdown has inconsistencies that are failing us.

    “It doesn’t make sense to close gyms but not dine-in for restaurants. The science behind why you close those places is because of the increased risk of getting coronavirus in poorly ventilated, enclosed inside settings,” he said.


    Ducey said shutting down places like bars and gyms would help slow the spread and relieve stress on our health care system, but Dr. Marvasti said with hospitals overwhelmed and reaching capacity, if Arizona doesn't get a handle on this, the rest of July and August will only get worse.


    ducey
    Ducey said shutting down places like bars and gyms would help slow the spread and relieve stress on our health care system.


    (Source: 3TV/CBS 5)
    “I was quoted in the media a few weeks ago as saying we don’t want to be another New York. Well, here we are right now. And we are becoming another New York,” Dr. Marvasti said.


    COVID-19 nearly five times more prevalent than influenza in Arizona
    Dr. Marvasti said he hopes our public officials look at this data to make decisions on how to get Arizona on the right track. He also said it's up to individual Arizonans to make a difference, too, by taking necessary precautions to slow the spread.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...-near-capacity
    Arizona Coronavirus Death Toll Mounts as Hospitals Near Capacity
    Arizona has emerged as a hot spot for the spread of the virus. Now the death toll appears to be catching up.
    By Alexa Lardieri, Staff Writer July 7, 2020, at 3:57 p.m.

    ARIZONA REPORTED 117 deaths from the coronavirus on Tuesday, bringing the total to 1,927.


    Tuesday's death toll includes 52 fatalities from death certificate matching. Deaths are not recorded until the state health department receives a death certificate listing COVID-19 as the cause of death, meaning Tuesday's number could include deaths that occurred on a different day.


    [MAP: The Spread of Coronavirus]


    Cases in the state are climbing and, according to the Arizona Department of Health Services, the state recorded 3,653 new cases of COVID-19 on Tuesday, bringing the count to more than 105,090 cases.


    Like much of the country, increases in Arizona cases are occurring among younger people. Health officials have suggested that might be a contributing factor to death tolls remaining stable in many places, although they have warned that fatalities are likely to rise as the numbers of infections escalate. That projection appears to be playing out in Arizona.


    Approximately 11.3% of the Arizonians tested for either the active virus or antibodies, indicating they had the virus and have since recovered, have tested positive.


    As cases increase, the state is reporting one of its lowest numbers of available intensive care unit hospital beds.


    Five percent, or 5,272, COVID-19 patients are hospitalized, and Arizona had 10%, or 167, of its ICU beds available as of Monday. The health department said 1,481 ICU beds in use.


    Additionally, the state has about half of its ventilators, life-saving machines used on the most critical patients, available. Fifty-one percent, or 895, were being used as of Monday.


    Regina Romero, the mayor of Tucson, told CNN on Tuesday that she is very concerned about the dwindling hospital capacity. Pima County, where Tucson is located, has the second highest number of cases in Arizona, with 10,184, including 311 new cases on Tuesday. The county has reported 302 deaths, including 20 on Tuesday, according to the Arizona Department of Health.


    The county has an overall positivity rate of 9.1% and 746 people are hospitalized.

    ...


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


  16. Thanks Gunny thanked this post
  17. #27
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    USA, Southern
    Posts
    27,683
    Thanks (Given)
    32441
    Thanks (Received)
    17532
    Likes (Given)
    3631
    Likes (Received)
    3156
    Piss Off (Given)
    21
    Piss Off (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475257

    Default

    Does not matter what state-numbers are being manipulated to try to keep the panic going.
    "THEY"-- want another wave to be going- to affect the coming election and give them more authority to take away our freedoms.
    We have a shadow government within our government. And I mean one that is totally globalist controlled and one that bosses the dem party.
    America had best wake up to reality.
    Yes there is a C-19 virus but it does not rate to be much worse than any other virus that has come along in recent decades.
    This massive unbelievable over reaction has been falsely created for political purposes and never before in history has there been such an amount of lying going on in order to attempt to stop a President .
    While most Americans are blind to the fact that --"THEY" are making an undeclared war on us! FACT...
    If Biden gets in -this nation will never recover... and that is in their plan too.. --Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

  18. #28
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,811
    Thanks (Given)
    34243
    Thanks (Received)
    26347
    Likes (Given)
    2312
    Likes (Received)
    9910
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    368 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475524

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I think the 'lock downs' and 'school starts' have to begin with the states. AZ has never really locked down and perhaps it wasn't necessary before, but it's likely now that it is. The governor here does not seem to be the brightest bulb on the marquee.

    https://www.azfamily.com/news/contin...321c85379.html


    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...-near-capacity
    We were never rally locked down either. Not when it first hit and the East Coast was in full panic mode. We were just being careful and the whole time I was just saying/thinking "it just hasn't got here yet".

    Well, it's here. I don't believe in coincidences much, and it arrived in force about a week after they "re-opened" the State, that was never really shut down. Cities were. Our hospitals are currently at 100% and they're shipping bodies all over the State to get them beds. The military bases here in SA closed down day before yesterday. No one in or out.

    I've just been doing my same old thing. I already had myself on "lockdown" not chancing a bout of pneumonia after I got out of the hospital. Haven't really gone anywhere because 3 years or not, I'm just NOW getting back to pre-hospital shape where I don't feel like an idiot whenever I go anywhere.

    School: They're re-opening school. Choice is online or in class, but it's on or the other by semester. Meaning if you go online, you have to finish the semester to put the kids in actual school the next. That of course is a problem for me because my daughter is teaching in class, virus or no. If I have to handle the 7 years old AND the toddler it's not looking good from ANY viewpoint. He's a toddler and she's a piece of work.

    That of course is today. There's always "tomorrow's plan"
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  19. Thanks Kathianne thanked this post
  20. #29
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,811
    Thanks (Given)
    34243
    Thanks (Received)
    26347
    Likes (Given)
    2312
    Likes (Received)
    9910
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    368 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475524

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Does not matter what state-numbers are being manipulated to try to keep the panic going.
    "THEY"-- want another wave to be going- to affect the coming election and give them more authority to take away our freedoms.
    We have a shadow government within our government. And I mean one that is totally globalist controlled and one that bosses the dem party.
    America had best wake up to reality.
    Yes there is a C-19 virus but it does not rate to be much worse than any other virus that has come along in recent decades.
    This massive unbelievable over reaction has been falsely created for political purposes and never before in history has there been such an amount of lying going on in order to attempt to stop a President .
    While most Americans are blind to the fact that --"THEY" are making an undeclared war on us! FACT...
    If Biden gets in -this nation will never recover... and that is in their plan too.. --Tyr
    The virus is situational. I live in one of the largest cities in the US. So do some others. It's not the same as living in the sticks. My father lives in Navarre, FL and he thinks it's bunk too. Y'all don't have a couple million city rats breathing all over you and sharing the airspace.

    Sure it's being played by politics. Politics did not invent the virus. Politics isn't controlling a virus. The left is using the virus for a smokescreen. I predicted they would when it started. I'm not a politician nor have the games being played around the country been played here. Anything I can do politically I can do right here at my desk. I AM caught up in the school re-opening crap because my daughter's a teacher and two of my grandchildren go to school.

    On a good day, deadly to me or not, I don't want to be sick from any kind of flu. It sucks and the older I get, the longer it lasts. I certainly do not understand what game anyone thinks is being played in that regard. If you don't wear a mask here, you can't go in the store. Some have tried to make it sound as if we're opting out on a bright sunny day for fear of rain, and such is not the case.

    I see all the double standards, lies and political crap going on. None of it makes the flu go away and hope if anyone has to catch it, it's all these nimrods hiding behind it to violate the law and our society. In that regard, I have been quite clear I think it's the President's job to step in and stop these game-playing Governors and/or mayors in their tracks.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  21. Thanks Tyr-Ziu Saxnot, Kathianne thanked this post
    Likes Kathianne liked this post
  22. #30
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The virus is situational. I live in one of the largest cities in the US. So do some others. It's not the same as living in the sticks. My father lives in Navarre, FL and he thinks it's bunk too. Y'all don't have a couple million city rats breathing all over you and sharing the airspace.
    Absolutely. It's got changing numbers in areas with different populations. Much less mass transit in some areas. Much more open space in some areas. Then areas with limited places to escape, and with mass transit around not helping things and/or different areas handling masks differently and shut downs differently. And then the weird/scary part, is that the virus has been seen to fluctuate in strength and strains. So life IS like a box of chocolates, and ya never know what you're going to get!

    Mass transit in places like NYC should have been shut down, and continue until certain numbers are met. And be willing to open/shut at a moments notice when necessary. Same in other states like California, Texas or anywhere with a ton of people and a large mass transit system. I think ALL schools should go 100% virtual until further notice. While things seem to be lesser in comparison to what hit the tri-state area on the east coast, we do not want to see the same hit in every state. We are seeing California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and others. The amount of deaths are different - thus far - but evening out now. So now is not the time to continue "as is" IMO, but time to shut shit down like we did and others. It'll open back up, and then maybe be shut down again.

    The goal should be to continue this downward trend, and shut things down if any individual state should even out or start to rise, and then act accordingly.

    Seems like an easy decision on Monday Morning QB'n things. Make goals, monitor more than thoroughly, take precautions and shut down when necessary. But that doesn't account for loss of business or entire businesses, lost income for workers, people still need things and still need money to pay for them - ALL the things we have all long discussed. The damage was beyond incredible already. But you also can't just say "Sorry, can't afford it as a country, or as a state, so just do as-is and hope you don't die".

    Looks like I somehow missed a day with Cali, don't know why the count there is less. The bold is today's numbers.


    Texas - 1.67% 1.41 1.39 1.35 1.34 1.30 1.28
    Arizona - 2.3% 2.01 1.97 1.85 1.86 1.83 1.83
    California - 2.83% 2.53 2.51 2.40 2.36 2.31
    Florida - 2.55% 2.06 1.94 1.86 1.83 1.79 1.79
    Georgia - 3.79% 3.24 3.15 2.99 2.99 2.96 2.88
    Illinois - 4.8% 4.82 4.80 4.76 4.76 4.75 4.86

    Still mainly a downward trend - but not what you would call a pretty sight. People are still rising in infections, many still hospitalized or in the ICU. And of course while lower than what it once was, folks still dying daily. And Arizona, Illinois and Florida have now evened out for 2 days. Likely means it may start upward now, but let's hope I am wrong. Illinois, now they took a jump upwards, and they also have a much higher total death count than the others. I'm really surprised that Cali has still continued downward. And of course we have Georgia, where the governor is a criminal and should be jailed. Things were handled differently and earlier there, and they too have taken a downward trend.

    Ensure masks are worn, limit interactions in stores or crowds and get out of dodge. Clean with disinfectant when leaving and clean thoroughly with soap and water when back home. Stay away from anyone you know that has a compromised immune system for now. Try and protect any elderly within your family. At a bare minimum, wear the PPE whenever around any of the above. Tiny things may at least help keep the downward trend on deaths, or keep them from rising much, until we can get a successful vaccine out there.

    As an aside, there are like 15 companies out there working diligently on a vaccine, and a handful are well on their way into testing phases, and a few of them are in the 30,000+ trial stage.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  23. Thanks Kathianne, Gunny thanked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums