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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    They have a vested interest in the American military protecting them.
    That's an outright lie. What war did Israel ever fight where the US went in for them? It's the opposite. We just had Israel fight a little proxy war for *us*.

    You've been hanging with Jason too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    That's an outright lie. What war did Israel ever fight where the US went in for them? It's the opposite. We just had Israel fight a little proxy war for *us*.

    You've been hanging with Jason too much.
    Israel is dependent on US financial and military support to survive NOW. Israel fights for Israel. Don't kid yourself. Israel blew the USS Independence out of the water to "protect" itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    no--I like the idea of America being sovereign but I'm afraid thats all over.
    If it's over, it isn't because of this. Did it ever occur to you that Israel can take Iran out without US help?
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    They have a vested interest in the American military protecting them.
    They hardly need our protection.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    If it's over, it isn't because of this. Did it ever occur to you that Israel can take Iran out without US help?
    Then let's pull out and let em have at it. They need to use that harware we give em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    If your fine with our little puppet dragging us into a war----
    The Iranian regime has been itching for war since they attacked our embassy during the Carter administration. It's karma. They will get what is coming to them.

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    We have been fighting iran in iraq for the last couple of years. Its now being made public that they have agents in iraq and its been made public our forces are going to go after them. We still have 5 iranian prisoners being held in iraq at least one of which is a high ranks Qods official. The karbala incident was iranian inspired if not carried out by iran, which is most likely the case.

    Some tribes in western iran are revolting against the iranian guard units there and have driven out the govenment forces. I expect this my be the break we need to insert special forces do an afgan type assault on the iranian government. Let the iranians take their own country back.

    If the Mossad can get in and assassinate one iranian, they can get in and target lots of sites for the Israeli Air Force. So when the time comes there will be a lot of precision strikes that totally wipes out the iranian nuke ambitions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    What war did Israel ever fight where the US went in for them?
    Iraq I and II.

    Before that, the US fought in the European theater of WWII partly at the behest of the Jews (see Charles Lindbergh's speech in Iowa). Thousands of white, Christian, American gentile men with roots across Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Italy, France) died in the fucking mud fighting Adolf Hitler. Know what gratitude the Jews have shown them in return? Peg them as repressed racist nationalists different only from their Nazi cousins in the level of control they've been able to exercise over them. And who aren't to be trusted running their own countries. So they demand that they run ours, call us "anti-Semites" if we protest, and for an added bonus, we get to pay for Israel, too. And fight its wars. Sound like a good deal to you?
    America: White people footing the bill for a party they're not allowed to attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Lincoln View Post
    Iraq I and II.

    Before that, the US fought in the European theater of WWII partly at the behest of the Jews (see Charles Lindbergh's speech in Iowa). Thousands of white, Christian, American gentile men with roots across Europe (England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Italy, France) died in the fucking mud fighting Adolf Hitler. Know what gratitude the Jews have shown them in return? Peg them as repressed racist nationalists different only from their Nazi cousins in the level of control they've been able to exercise over them. And who aren't to be trusted running their own countries. So they demand that they run ours, call us "anti-Semites" if we protest, and for an added bonus, we get to pay for Israel, too. And fight its wars. Sound like a good deal to you?
    That's insane. If you remove the rabid and delusional anti-semitism from your eyes, you'd know that Gulf I was about Kuwait and the Saudis... nothing whatsoever to do with Israel except that the U.S. made Israel lie down and play dead and take SCUD's from the Iraqis.... yeah, we really went in for them. Not only did we NOT go in for them, we let them take the hit FOR US because Bush I was afraid of his coalition breaking up if he allowed Israel to defend itself.

    They didn't fight Adolph for a few Jews, you rabid nazi.... they fought Adolph because he wanted to take over Europe. Releasing the jews from concentration camps after 6 million were obliterated were serendipity.

    As for Iraq II... again, not a thing to do with Israel... it was about us tossing about Saddam to make up for us looking like we were asleep at the switch on 9/11. Couldn't very well go after Brother Bandar's Saudi's (even though most of the hijackers were Saudi), right? What's the next best thing? OBL wants our base out of S.A., so we decide to set up in Iraq... not a thing to do with Israel.

    And, in fact, we just had Israel fight a little proxy war for us... you know, against Iran, by way of Hezbollah in Lebanon. Or did that escape your notice?

    Like most rabid anti-semites, racists or anyone else blinded by insane and irrational hatred, your posts don't even begin to border on reality.

    Certainly even one of your KKK websites would tell you that, no?

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    Hugh did you make it to iran for the big anti-holacaust event they held. I'm sure you would have been welcome with open arms. All blind stupid jew haters were invited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    And, in fact, we just had Israel fight a little proxy war for us... you know, against Iran, by way of Hezbollah in Lebanon.
    garbage---Israel didn't fight Hezbollah for the US. Who the hell are you trying to kid?

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    Israel fought hezbollah because hezbollah attacked them. They were constrained by the US and and their wimpy PM from fighting to win. It was a typical pc action that left hezbollah in place and lots of IDF killed and wounded.

    Thousands of rockets were launched against cities and civilians but Israel is condemned for launching strikes against hezbollah. That is the ipitimy of STUPID.

    It was a proxy war only for iran. Israel acted on its own. None of the problems there will ever be resolved by talking or showing restraint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    That is the ipitimy of STUPID.
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