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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I would agree, except that Biden’s mental acuity means he will be totally manipulated by someone, anyone, behind the scenes. Soros? China? Who knows? That is scary. Not to mention that his VEEP may call the shots. At least with Hillary, we knew she would always act in her own best interests.
    Yeah, kind of like Woodrow Wilson's wife secretly ran the presidency when he had his massive stroke.

    Pretty scary possibility, considering who the puppeteer would be before installing the VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I agree, but in this case do you think it's wrong that China is our enemy and is actively working for our demise?

    Does anyone happen to remember the Korean War? China has been our enemy since the end of WWII after we saved them from the Japanese, and when they turned to Communism.

    If the Dems want to treat the Chinese like they are Our Friends...which they will completely do if someone like Biden and Warren happen to replace President Trump. Literally...We can all start learning to write, spell, and speak Chinese...Their Way. They took power from Russia as they became an overcrowded nation where their people are nothing but slaves, and EVERYONE in the Chinese Govt's eyes...IS BOTH IN THE WAY AND EXPENDABLE.

    They want to control the entire world, and can SPARE as many fallen, dead soldiers as they like.
    So, it is not WRONG that China is our Enemy. If they control OUR economy by getting a Democrat pawn into the White House.
    Sad to say but...WE ARE DONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Does anyone happen to remember the Korean War? China has been our enemy since the end of WWII after we saved them from the Japanese, and when they turned to Communism.

    If the Dems want to treat the Chinese like they are Our Friends...which they will completely do if someone like Biden and Warren happen to replace President Trump. Literally...We can all start learning to write, spell, and speak Chinese...Their Way. They took power from Russia as they became an overcrowded nation where their people are nothing but slaves, and EVERYONE in the Chinese Govt's eyes...IS BOTH IN THE WAY AND EXPENDABLE.

    They want to control the entire world, and can SPARE as many fallen, dead soldiers as they like.
    So, it is not WRONG that China is our Enemy. If they control OUR economy by getting a Democrat pawn into the White House.
    Sad to say but...WE ARE DONE!
    The Korean War is the forgotten war and as you probably know better than most, it has never actually ended.

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    I don't think there will be any debates this year, at least in any recognizable form. Even virtual I don't think is going to happen in the way of 'unscripted' which is a joke at best.

    Why? This is working:

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/387578/
    JULY 17, 2020
    JOE WHO? VIDEO: Young voters can’t remember last time they saw Biden on campaign trail. “Almost all said they had not seen Biden campaigning in the last few months, with some even agreeing that Biden was ‘hiding. The young voters also could not name any of Biden’s career accomplishments.”


    To be fair, it’s better for Biden if they don’t know what he’s actually done in office.




    Posted by Glenn Reynolds at 10:30 am
    No 'traditions' left, those went out with Obama/Trump.


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    I’m sure the DNC shudders at the thought of Biden in a live debate. Trump will have to set up a Biden doll behind a podium, and just point out all of his sketchy past and current policies.

    The Biden doll will probably have clearer answers than Biden would, too. And the young girls will be safer.
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    If Biden can come out to do press briefings without worrying about virus exposure he should be able to do a debate.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    If Biden can come out to do press briefings without worrying about virus exposure he should be able to do a debate.
    Doesn’t mean he will or those willing to vote for him or against Trump will care if he flips them off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Pretty sure that is where Simon is going, (btw he is huge pro-Trump, barely anything against him before and after election.) Helping the states with virus? Yep, couldn't have done anymore. Talking about it? Awful. He seems constitutionally unable to show empathy on such a topic, regardless of his personal feelings-he just is not going to be warm and comforting.

    Now China? He can let the inner tough guy thrive. He certainly can put forth draconian measures and punishments, even if not doable until after the election. People are furious at China and would like that. Stop railing about how miserable the media, Fauci, AOC, etc., people are not wanting to hear that right now-domestically they are looking for solutions to crime in cities (that's the dems in control and he can only go off the rails with them); covid, (again, no good solutions today-though he's given all the incentives and they seem ready to pay off regarding vaccine and treatments-but he doesn't project the warm fuzzies and gets sidelined with rants.)

    So use the bullying for China. That's all that's being said here.

    Well looky!

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morri...ton-consulate/

    Escalation: US Orders China To Close Its Houston Consulate
    ED MORRISSEYPosted at 10:01 am on July 22, 2020

    At least they had one last Texas barbecue at China’s consulate in Houston. Late last night, a local news station — ironically, KPRC — noticed a bonfire in the back of the facility. Workers at the consulate had already begun destroying sensitive material after the US ordered the People’s Republic of China to shut down the facility in 72 hours:

    ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    A bonfire eh?
    hmmmmm - trash burning trash....
    I have been speaking against China and what it was, and will do to us since back in 1973...
    Have hundreds of post here doing same...
    Always best to realize who the real enemy is and not be blind sided by that enemy.
    China has played this nation for almost fifty straight years like a fiddle, imho.
    We can most definitely thank the worthless (and truly treasonous)dem party that it bought out long ago for that..-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    A bonfire eh?
    hmmmmm - trash burning trash....
    I have been speaking against China and what it was, and will do to us since back in 1973...
    Have hundreds of post here doing same...
    Always best to realize who the real enemy is and not be blind sided by that enemy.
    China has played this nation for almost fifty straight years like a fiddle, imho.
    We can most definitely thank the worthless (and truly treasonous)dem party that it bought out long ago for that..-Tyr
    China is an enemy, we agree.
    Burning papers before abandoning an embassy/satellite is normal, for any country, for any reason.
    Who brought diplomacy with China? I think it's not the Democrats, though they've certainly made things worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    China is an enemy, we agree.
    Burning papers before abandoning an embassy/satellite is normal, for any country, for any reason.
    Who brought diplomacy with China? I think it's not the Democrats, though they've certainly made things worse.
    Nixon opened up diplomacy and trade with China..
    However, the Dems took control shortly thereafter.
    As they saw it as a huge windfall to them and their power, to control it and be allies with China.
    Now these almost 50 years later we get to see the ill fruits of that devil's bargain made between the two slimy serpents, imho..--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    China is an enemy, we agree.
    Burning papers before abandoning an embassy/satellite is normal, for any country, for any reason.
    Who brought diplomacy with China? I think it's not the Democrats, though they've certainly made things worse.
    It was Richard Nixon. Thing is, Nixon's administration was more like what I would expect from Democrats. He was a serious autocrat and socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    It was Richard Nixon. Thing is, Nixon's administration was more like what I would expect from Democrats. He was a serious autocrat and socialist.
    Didn't he create the epa and advocate social medicine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Didn't he create the epa and advocate social medicine?
    And the 55 mph speed limit.

    Now I have to admit, I'm not saying everything he did was wrong. The EPA was needed back then. I remember trash on the sides of the highways, and the Potomac River was brown with all kinds of crap floating in it. Problem is, it turned into part of the rest of the bureaucracy and started going way beyond getting people to be responsible.

    The guy was a paranoid psycho at war with the media and look how that turned out. The MSM has been and always will be what it is. Nixon's issue was the media portrayed him negatively and JFK positively and cost him the election since he WAS the more qualified politician. Fact is, JFK was media friendly and Nixon was not.
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    Nixon was both the best and the worst of Presidents. No excusing Watergate, which puts him at the bottom no matter what.

    His opening China did allow for hope that peace was possible. That it's where it is now is obviously not his failing. His moves on missile treaties finally slowed the race for more and reduced the fear that the USSR and US were heading for a very, very short hot war.

    While he had reasons for his paranoia, he couldn't overcome his own personality disorders to rise above the media and his fears within the GOP and of course, the DNC. Let's hope that others with some of the same problems handle the problems better.


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