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    I don't know what is true and what isn't or who's doing what. OTOH, things ARE breaking:

    https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/c...-being-hacked/
    C-SPAN suspends political editor Steve Scully indefinitely after he admits he lied about his Twitter feed being hacked
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    Posted: Oct 15, 2020 / 03:29 PM EDT / Updated: Oct 15, 2020 / 03:29 PM EDT

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    He's suspended indefinitely.

    Biden's camp's denial comes down to-'no meeting on official schedule.'


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    So today Scully is out, in spite of there no longer being a debate. The Commission of Presidential Debates has has their fake claims of 'bi-partisan' and unbiased blown out of the water.

    So what about the NY Post article? First it was 'untrue' then it was, 'no meeting on official VP calendar. Now it's IF there was a meeting, it was cursory. . .

    This is what is known as drip, drip, drip.

    So, who's flipping between ABC and NBC this evening?

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/...unters-emails/

    Biden Team Is Now Furiously Backpedaling Over NY Post Story About Hunter’s Emails
    Posted at 9:00 pm on October 14, 2020 by Nick Arama


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    Twitter and Facebook are getting blasted today because of trying to suppress the NY Post story about Hunter Biden’s emails.


    Twitter not only blocked the NY Post from spreading their own story, they’ve even locked out people like the White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany for sharing the story.

    There is no evidence that the material was “hacked” despite that being Twitter’s excuse for stopping the spread of the story.


    But the fact they were trying so hard to suppress it, made people want to share it all the more and made people give it more credence and attention.


    They wouldn’t be trying so hard if they didn’t think it was a big problem for Biden.


    But now the Biden team responded earlier to the explosive story about Hunter Biden’s emails.


    Among the emails was one which involved an advisor to Burisma, Vadym Pozharskyi, was thanking Hunter Biden for setting up a meeting with his father, the then Vice President and Obama administration point man on Ukraine, Joe Biden.

    The initial response of Biden’s team claimed they had checked Joe Biden’s official calendar and denied there ever was such a meeting because it was not on the calendar. But given the nature of the meeting, who would put such a potentially “quid pro quo” meeting on an official calendar?


    But they didn’t dispute that the emails were Hunter’s and it was very clear there were Hunter’s pictures and videos that also were on the hard drive.


    But the Biden team must know that they’re in trouble on this because now they are trying to hedge their bets, perhaps in case there are actual photos or recordings of the meeting. Now they’re not ruling out there might have been an “informal interaction” with the Burisma advisor but said any meeting would have been “cursory.”

    So before Biden denied he even had one, but now they’re claiming if he had one it was “cursory?” Sounds like they’re basically now admitting now that the meeting could have occurred but they were playing word games in their initial response and are doing their best to minimize it. Can we say backpedal? This adds more to the claim that Joe Biden wasn’t telling the truth about not talking about his son’s business dealings.

    Joe Biden called a lid at 9:41 a.m. today, no doubt hoping to avoid any more questions on this story. But despite that, it still blew up. With this further “non-denial,” it adds more fuel to the fire.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I don't know what is true and what isn't or who's doing what. OTOH, things ARE breaking:

    https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/c...-being-hacked/


    He's suspended indefinitely.

    Biden's camp's denial comes down to-'no meeting on official schedule.'
    Yep, many stating that it's their reply, but only meaning his official schedule but could of been "unofficial". Is a little odd they chose to write it that way.

    As for Scully, I knew that from the moment I read it... Plus his history of using the hackers excuse...

    I don't believe the hacking BS. Someone is always hacked when they send something the wrong way. Some go to send a PM and post public, others to the wrong person, some have multiple accounts and post from the wrong one....

    Didn't happen, look away, nothing to see, was just a hacker. BS.

    And looking at the tweet photos - if Scully was hacked as he claims - was Mooch hacked as well? And then what was Mooch responding to?
    But like I added in the 2nd post there, and now we know that Scaramucci's reply was legit, what was it all about I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    So today Scully is out, in spite of there no longer being a debate. The Commission of Presidential Debates has has their fake claims of 'bi-partisan' and unbiased blown out of the water.

    So what about the NY Post article? First it was 'untrue' then it was, 'no meeting on official VP calendar. Now it's IF there was a meeting, it was cursory. . .

    This is what is known as drip, drip, drip.

    So, who's flipping between ABC and NBC this evening?

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/...unters-emails/
    They finally got to it on air? Still not a peep across the MSM on the internet sites. Wasn't a peep on TV either but I didn't bother last night. Plenty of BS across their sites though, things like Trump not accepting the election and interaction from military... tons of crap from Obama speaking... CNN has garbage galore and lies, but nothing about Hunter Biden... msnbc makes CNN look great with their tabloid material from idiots like Maddow and Brzezinsky. I still can't fine one single lefty source online mentioning the story.

    And yeps, what you mention, which makes them not covering the story that much more like they are trying to help him.

    But the Biden team must know that they’re in trouble on this because now they are trying to hedge their bets, perhaps in case there are actual photos or recordings of the meeting. Now they’re not ruling out there might have been an “informal interaction” with the Burisma advisor but said any meeting would have been “cursory.”

    So before Biden denied he even had one, but now they’re claiming if he had one it was “cursory?” Sounds like they’re basically now admitting now that the meeting could have occurred but they were playing word games in their initial response and are doing their best to minimize it. Can we say backpedal? This adds more to the claim that Joe Biden wasn’t telling the truth about not talking about his son’s business dealings.
    No doubt, a plan for when it's proven. Then it will be the "I don't recall this or that" and hope he either loses by then or he wins and it disappears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    So today Scully is out, in spite of there no longer being a debate. The Commission of Presidential Debates has has their fake claims of 'bi-partisan' and unbiased blown out of the water.

    So what about the NY Post article? First it was 'untrue' then it was, 'no meeting on official VP calendar. Now it's IF there was a meeting, it was cursory. . .

    This is what is known as drip, drip, drip.

    So, who's flipping between ABC and NBC this evening?

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/...unters-emails/
    I'm recording both.
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    No one's opinion of Hunter Biden is going to change; everyone already knew he's a total slimeball.

    Joe Biden, on the other hand, is quite clearly revealed as a liar. He's stated many times that he never talked to Burisma and never talked to Hunter about Burisma. That is obviously a lie now. You have to have been in total denial to not have already realized Biden's a liar with all the plagiarism and claims that he got arrested in South Africa trying to visit Nelson Mandela, was at the top of his class, and got scholarships and multiple degrees, but now its right in front of everyone's face.

    Dem apologists will desperately claim that the emails are fake or from Russia, but the Gmail crypto signature of the email from Burisma to Hunter is easy to verify. Check this out: https://blog.erratasec.com/2020/10/y...l#.X4jprhBKipo

    Dems will not want to hear about or suggest any actual verification of the emails because they suspect that all the emails are all valid. After all, the hard drive also included pictures of Hunter Biden naked, and videos of him having sex. How would they explain that.

    Even worse for Joe is emails that show he was selling influence through Hunter to Communist China. I know Dems will deny anything, but do they really want a President who has had illicit deals with China? How much dirt can China hold over Joe at this point? A lot, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    This will definitely cripple Biden's chances this year.

    I mean, Rudy said it's true, so who's to doubt it, right?
    Lol, you're such a fuckin' hack.

    Looks good on ya.
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    Biden clearly taking bribes and his son was the middle man. This is precisely why Biden was demanding the prosecutor looking into Burisma corruption be immediately fired - he knew what would be uncovered.

    Anyone else aghast at the complete lack of intelligence shown by Hunter Biden taking his primary laptop loaded with pictures smoking crack and thousands of emails detailing international bribery and corruption at the highest levels to a computer shop?

    I bet he'd dearly love to take a hammer to it now and buy another $1200 laptop.

    The beauty to this is that computer has records of all his different email accounts, and I'm sure the FBI, NSA and CIA already have an impressive list of other democrats also being bought by other countries.
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    Mostly ignoring the story but explaining why or bringing up denials and paperwork or something to prove it wrong would be appropriate. The NEWS agencies should be reporting NEWS regardless of their beliefs. Right now it's still an active story. But they are all choosing to ignore it from the get go and as more comes out. Continued ignoring all around as more and more information comes out about it only makes it seem that much more true.

    Some more things of interest in here. Looks perhaps like Hunter had a "wash my hands over there and I'll do the same here" deal. His end in helping end possible investigations. And imagine what happened?

    Now the child porn is a hell of a twist, but no proof other than a signature of the FBI that makes people think. But squat there that I see, for now. But they are convincing me more and more and more that it's legit. So if it is, that part is going somewhere, but nothing points to a specific person yet other than a connection based on who owns/owned it.

    --

    ‘This is China, Inc.’: Emails Reveal Hunter Biden’s Associates Helped Communist-Aligned Chinese Elites Secure White House Meetings

    Newly obtained emails from a Hunter Biden business partner lay out in detail how the Vice President’s son and his colleagues used their access to the Obama-Biden administration to arrange private meetings for potential foreign clients and investors at the highest levels in the White House. These never-before-revealed emails outline how a delegation of Chinese investors and Communist Party officials managed to secure a private, off-the-books meeting with then-Vice President Joe Biden.

    In a 2011 email, Hunter Biden’s business associates also discussed developing relations with what one called “China Inc.” as part of a “new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese.” These emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails being released by the New York Post.

    These and more explosive never-before-revealed emails were provided to Schweizer by Bevan Cooney, a one-time Hunter Biden and Devon Archer business associate. Cooney is currently in prison serving a sentence for his involvement in a 2016 bond fraud investment scheme.

    In 2019, Cooney reached out to Schweizer after becoming familiar with the revelations in his 2018 book Secret Empires. Cooney explained that he believes he was the “fall guy” for the fraud scheme and that Archer and Hunter Biden had avoided responsibility.

    Archer, who was also convicted in the case, saw a federal judge vacate his conviction. But an appellate court overturned the lower court judge’s ruling, reinstating Archer’s conviction in the case. Archer, Hunter Biden’s longtime business partner, awaits sentencing.

    Cooney, their associate who is currently serving a prison sentence on his conviction in the matter, later reestablished contact with Schweizer through investigative journalist Matthew Tyrmand. From prison, Cooney provided Schweizer with written authorization, his email account name, and password to his Gmail account to retrieve these emails. He authorized, in writing, the publication of these emails— notable because it is the first time a close associate has publicly confirmed Hunter’s trading on his father’s influence.

    The emails offer a unique window into just how the Biden universe conducted business during the Obama-Biden Administration. These associates sought to trade on Hunter Biden’s relationship with, and access to, his father and the Obama-Biden White House in order to generate business.

    For instance, on November 5, 2011, one of Archer’s business contacts forwarded him an email teasing an opportunity to gain “potentially outstanding new clients” by helping to arrange White House meetings for a group of Chinese executives and government officials. The group was the China Entrepreneur Club (CEC) and the delegation included Chinese billionaires, Chinese Communist Party loyalists, and at least one “respected diplomat” from Beijing. Despite its benign name, CEC has been called “a second foreign ministry” for the People’s Republic of China—a communist government that closely controls most businesses in its country. CEC was established in 2006 by a group of businessmen and Chinese government diplomats.




    CEC’s leadership boasts numerous senior members of the Chinese Communist Party, including Wang Zhongyu (“vice chairman of the 10th CPPCC National Committee and deputy secretary of the Party group”), Ma Weihua (director of multiple Chinese Communist Party offices), and Jiang Xipei (member of the Chinese Communist Party and representative of the 16th National Congress), among others.

    “I know it is political season and people are hesitant but a group like this does not come along every day,” an intermediary named Mohamed A. Khashoggi wrote on behalf of the CEC to an associate of Hunter Biden and Devon Archer. “A tour of the white house and a meeting with a member of the chief of staff’s office and John Kerry would be great,” Khashoggi said before including what should have been a major red flag: “Not sure if one has to be registered to do this.” Presumably, Khashoggi meant a registered lobbyist under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).

    Khashoggi believed the trip presented “a soft diplomacy play that could be very effective” and would give Hunter Biden’s business partners “good access to [the Chinese] for any deal in the future.”

    Indeed, the email boasted of CEC’s wealthy membership:

    CEC’s current membership includes 50 preeminent figures such as: Liu Chuanzhi, Chairman of the CEC, Legend Holdings and Lenovo Group; Wu Jinglian, Zhang Weiying, and Zhou Qiren, China’s esteemed economists; Wu Jianmin, respected diplomat; Long Yongtu, representative of China’s globalization; Wang Shi (Vanke); Ma Weihua (China Merchants Bank); Jack Ma (Alibaba Group); Guo Guangchang (Fosun Group); Wang Jianlin, (Wanda Group); Niu Gensheng (LAONIU Foundation); Li Shufu (Geely); Li Dongsheng (TCL Corporation); Feng Lun (Vantone) and etc.
    Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ouse-meetings/


    Hunter and Joe Biden Scandal Takes a Dark Turn — FBI’s Top Lawyer on Child Porn Involved in Case

    The emails and text messages of Hunter Biden are depressing. Despite many millions of dollars in income, the younger Biden seems to be always in financial distress.

    These emails and texts came to light in a series of New York Post stories on the contents of a laptop, presumably belonging to Hunter Biden. Someone dropped off the laptop at a computer repair shop to have its hard drive content recovered. That customer never paid and never returned for the device or its contents.

    The store owner was disturbed by the laptop’s content. Fearing for his safety, he released the hard drive to the FBI in December 2019. When the FBI failed to follow up on the disturbing contents, the shop owner turned over a copy of the contents to former federal prosecutor Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani, in turn, released the material to the New York Post.

    In one text, Hunter Biden tells his daughter Naomi she can’t keep living like a billionaire’s daughter because her dad is broke.



    In another, he promises never to demand half her salary the way her grandfather does.

    Rudy Guilliani holds a print of Biden’s text message to daughter claiming Joe Biden demands half of Hunter’s salary.

    The question arises, why would Hunter Biden agree to turn over cash to his father?

    And another question: Why has the FBI done nothing?

    We don’t know, of course, if anything Hunter Biden wrote to his daughter is true. Hunter could be lying. And we don’t yet have definitive prove anything on the laptop is authentic. But, based on the evidence, there’s every reason to believe it’s all true.

    So, again, we ask, why would Hunter Biden consent to passing half his income to his father?

    It’s not like Joe Biden is destitute. Once known as “the Senator from MBNA,” Joe Biden has millions in his political career. He was Vice President of the United States for eight of the last twelve years. Before that, he’d been a US Senator since 1973.

    Maybe Hunter is just a remarkable kid who would never say “no” to his father. But there’s another, darker possibility. Maybe Hunter felt he had no choice.

    The FBI’s Child Porn Attack Dog

    One image included in the New York Post photos was the FBI’s subpoena for the laptop.

    Bleeding through the top page was the FBI Special Agent’s signature: Joshua Wilson. As Western Journal describes it, Joshua Wilson works a specific kind of crime: child porn.

    FBI Grand Jury subpoena for Hunter Biden’s laptop.



    In 2012, Wilson was described by The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey-based newspaper, as “an FBI agent based in New Jersey who has spent nearly five years working full time on child pornography.

    More recent news articles suggest Wilson has also worked child abduction cases.

    A child pornography criminal complaint from 2012 includes Wilson’s signature — seemingly an exact match to what was found on the December subpoena.

    Both Western Journal and the left-leaning Business Insider confirm that the Special Agent’s signature belongs to the same Joshua Wilson.

    From Business Insider:

    It’s unclear whether the FBI employs more than one agent named Joshua Wilson. But the available evidence seems to show **the Joshua Wilson who signed the subpoena for Hunter Biden’s laptop, and the Joshua Wilson who investigates child pornography for the FBI, are the same person**. This raises the possibility, not explored by the Post, that the FBI issued the subpoena for reasons unrelated to Hunter Biden’s role in Ukraine and Burisma.

    The shop owner has told several news outlets that he did not *see* any child pornography on the hard drive. But those news outlets also confirm that the shop owner has severe vision problems. Some commenters have described him as “legally blind.”

    Suppose the FBI’s child pornography and exploitation division is investigating the laptop. In that case, we begin to see possible answers to the two burning questions: Why did Hunter Biden agree to share his income with his wealthy father, and why has the FBI failed to act on the laptop’s contents.
    Was Joe Biden Blackmailing His Own Son?

    We know that Hunter Biden exploited his father’s position as Vice President to win ridiculously lucrative jobs with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, several Chinese companies and officials, and a $3.5 million gift from the wife of Moscow’s mayor.

    We have learned from the New York Post story that Hunter seems to have arranged a meeting between a Burisma executive and Joe Biden in 2015.

    We know that Joe Biden got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired in exchange for a $1 billion gift to the Ukrainian government.

    We just learned that Joe Biden demanded at least half of his son’s vast income and that Hunter Biden complied with his father’s demands.

    And now we know the FBI sent its child porn expert to seize Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    We also know that Hunter Biden has lived a troubled life. The Navy kicked him out for drug abuse. He fathered a child he denies and refuses to support. Photos, both in the press and on the hard drive, reveal a playboy’s lifestyle of travel, drinking, drugs, and women. And constant financial problems despite millions of dollars in income.

    Considering the numerous photos of Hunter and Joe together, it is reasonable to assume Joe knows about Hunter’s lifestyle. In other words, Joe Biden knows what’s in Hunter’s closet. And the potential consequences to Hunter’s reputation and freedom.

    All of this information leads to one final question. A question that answers the two burning questions: **Did Joe Biden blackmail his son?**

    Did Joe Biden exploit Hunter’s recklessness by pimping him out as a bagman to foreign capitals?

    Did Joe Biden use his influence and power to hamstring FBI investigations of Hunter?

    Therefore, did Hunter Biden feel he had no choice but to turn over half the loot to his “Pops?”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...involved-case/
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    TUCKER CARLSON’S BOMBSHELL: Burisma Told Hunter Biden They Wanted to “Close Down Any Cases-Pursuits Against” its Top Official in Ukraine



    Fox News’ Tucker Carlson announced on Thursday that he will be revealing more emails tonight that further expose corruption by the Biden family.

    Tucker Carlson tweeted this at 4:16 PM on Thursday.



    On his show tonight Tucker Carlson reviewed information that was released earlier today by The New York Post.

    And then he dropped a bomb on the Biden Crime Family…

    Tucker Carlson shared with his audience Burisma Holdings told Hunter Biden they wanted to “close down any cases – pursuits against” its top official in Ukraine.



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...icial-ukraine/
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    So it begins?

    Doesn’t matter that they focus on Russia. Bottom line is there IS something hinky about the blind guy and related people, especially Giuliani. It now is in the MSM and many are going to hear about what Twitter was trying to bury:
    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-sha...-biden-emails/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Well, we'll see what the sender says and more. Looks like a leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetle more than just Rudy's words.
    Yeah, we will. I won't be waiting up nights, though. If Trump is counting on this to make a difference, he's going to be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    So it begins?

    Doesn’t matter that they focus on Russia. Bottom line is there IS something hinky about the blind guy and related people, especially Giuliani. It now is in the MSM and many are going to hear about what Twitter was trying to bury:
    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-sha...-biden-emails/
    The only coverage will be denials or to reverse it as such and lay claims to a setup via Giuliani, or turn it around and claim Trump is colluding with Russia again.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    Yeah, we will. I won't be waiting up nights, though. If Trump is counting on this to make a difference, he's going to be disappointed.
    Of course, because exposing the truth about anything on the left, any negativity, isn't something that anyone on the left cares one bit about. And of course no one will be waiting up, because they don't care one bit & they also know how other leftists and how the MSM handles such information. Knowing that so many others will be helping bury scandals as they happen, that's gotta help folks sleep easier. No care in the world about it, about losing, and not one bit of care about the truth and how much Joe was involved. Not a single care if Ukraine or China was working with them with the end goal being $$$.

    But if Trump dared eat McDonald's or KFC for his lunch, well then folks on the left will stick around, hit social media to report on it & wait at night to ensure all the networks are on board with the same story.
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    Does anyone think Hunter, much less coercive Joe are going to spend a minute even in the hot seat over this?

    Remember Hillary and her server which was a case of multiple felonies? The Dems are criminals are never going to hold their own accountable for anything. They're going to run right down and vote for the groper and the ho just like they did Fatass Hitlery.
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