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    Now that this thread has military content, it's been moved...again.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    pick a flag officer -any flag officer---we're bound to find something to argue about.
    yep, as long has one has served, they can argue about it, but I, as a woman who has not served, can't comment at all.... I've been given those "orders" by a few on this board...



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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    yep, as long has one has served, they can argue about it, but I, as a woman who has not served, can't comment at all.... I've been given those "orders" by a few on this board...



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    Chill with the sarcasm, woman! An opinion from one does not take away your right to post your views in this thread. It's up to the readers to determine who they might give more weight to when reading.
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    and I don't think that Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus as an asskissing little chickenshit has much to do with the ground war fighting expertise of either one of them....

    but it does have a great deal to do with Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus' personality and career path methodology.

    I have never met Petraeus, but if Admiral Fallon's take on him is accurate, it would make sense that he would be the guy that Dubya would pick for that job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    and I don't think that Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus as an asskissing little chickenshit h

    "ALLEGED" opinion.
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    as I said earlier (do try to keep up), if Admiral Fallon had been misquoted, wouldn't you imagine that he would set the record straight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    and I don't think that Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus as an asskissing little chickenshit has much to do with the ground war fighting expertise of either one of them....

    but it does have a great deal to do with Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus' personality and career path methodology.

    I have never met Petraeus, but if Admiral Fallon's take on him is accurate, it would make sense that he would be the guy that Dubya would pick for that job.
    Fall on is jealous because General Petraeus wears a better looking uniform and isn't a member of an obsolete, overpriced division of the military.
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    I am quite sure that Admiral Fallon is well aware that General Petraeus is not in the United States Air Force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    and I don't think that Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus as an asskissing little chickenshit has much to do with the ground war fighting expertise of either one of them....

    but it does have a great deal to do with Admiral Fallon's opinion of General Petraeus' personality and career path methodology.

    I have never met Petraeus, but if Admiral Fallon's take on him is accurate, it would make sense that he would be the guy that Dubya would pick for that job.
    Bush also picked Fallon. Big mistake militarily, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    as I said earlier (do try to keep up), if Admiral Fallon had been misquoted, wouldn't you imagine that he would set the record straight?
    Have you spoken to the Admiral?

    Do you REALLY not care at all that there is NO credible source for your info? Dude - I could call a guy who works in The Building, right this minute, and ask him to tell me HIS opinion of Admiral Fallon's opinion of General P. Would that really MEAN anything?
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    I certainly have spoken to Admiral Fallon before...but not about this particular issue.

    As I said, and as you seemingly have no answer for, if the admiral were misquoted, I would imagine that he would have his press office issue a statement denying the accuracy of that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I would imagine that if Admiral Fallon had been misquoted, he would have corrected the record.
    I see that you have gotten your marching orders from the collective to come in and present this anonymously sourced "quote." This is truly starting to get funny.

    I wonder why IPS is the source for this, and let me reapeat it, ANONYMOUSLY sourced quote? Why not the New York Times, or the Washington Post?

    Hmmm.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I certainly have spoken to Admiral Fallon before...but not about this particular issue.

    As I said, and as you seemingly have no answer for, if the admiral were misquoted, I would imagine that he would have his press office issue a statement denying the accuracy of that quote.
    You are assuming-away the problem of "Credible source". You 'assume' it's true because you personally don't know of any statement denying the claim. How convenient for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    You are assuming-away the problem of "Credible source". You 'assume' it's true because you personally don't know of any statement denying the claim. How convenient for you.
    if you have a link to a centcom press release denying the quote, I would LOVE to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    if you have a link to a centcom press release denying the quote, I would LOVE to read it.
    There you go again - your "logic" is so absurdly flawed it's nauseating to rational people.

    Go for it! Believe an Un-named source reading the minutes of a meeting they didn't attend. Assume it's true for the reason you haven't read anything claiming it's not. There's NO way you got to E5, much-less O5.

    My friend Gary who works at the pentagon says the Fallon and Petraeus go golfing all the time, and are even into wife-swapping.

    Prove they are not. Gary said so. At least MY source has a name.
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