So when the dems defeat bush in 08....

[manu1959]

what are you expectations for the new admin?

simple cut and paste yes no answers....

pull out of iraq?
invade darfur?
invade afganistan?
close all foreign military bases?

negotiate with iran an nk?
cut ties with israel?
open trade with cuba?
open trade with venezuala?

raise taxes on the rich and big business?
raise taxes on everyone?
flat tax?
cut taxes?
set up universal healthcare?
eliminate all foreign aid?
eliminate pork barrel spending?

close the border?
arrest all the illegals?
give all the illegals amnesty?
stop outsourcing?
create jobs?

[darin]

That's funny - you KNOW they'll prance around saying they "Defeated" GWB...because he couldn't run.

[manu1959]

That's funny - you KNOW they'll prance around saying they "Defeated" GWB...because he couldn't run.

i actually had someone say this to me the other night at dinner....

they are all so focused on someone who is not running it is commical.....

[Hagbard Celine]

what are you expectations for the new admin?

simple cut and paste yes no answers....

pull out of iraq? Yes
invade darfur? No
invade afganistan? No
close all foreign military bases? No

negotiate with iran an nk? Yes
cut ties with israel? No
open trade with cuba? Yes
open trade with venezuala? Yes

raise taxes on the rich and big business? No
raise taxes on everyone? No
flat tax? Yes
cut taxes? Yes
set up universal healthcare? Yes
eliminate all foreign aid? No
eliminate pork barrel spending? Yes

close the border? No
arrest all the illegals? No
give all the illegals amnesty? No
stop outsourcing? Yes
create jobs? Yes

[hjmick]

First, the title of your thread is wrong. It should read: So if the Dems defeat Bush in '08...

I am not convinced that their win is a foregone conclusion. Likely, yes, but not a sure thing.

Second, if you listen to all the Dems and Bush haters, a Democrat win in the next election will make the skies blue, the sun shine, and the birds sing. All will be right in the world so there really is no need for your questions. We will be living in an Utopian society, they have all the answers.

That being said, I will indulge you...

pull out of iraq? No
invade darfur? No
invade afganistan? No
close all foreign military bases? No

negotiate with iran an nk? Possibly
cut ties with israel? No
open trade with cuba? Maybe
open trade with venezuala? No

raise taxes on the rich and big business? Yes
raise taxes on everyone? Yes
flat tax? No
cut taxes? No
set up universal healthcare? They'll try, but probably not succeed
eliminate all foreign aid? No
eliminate pork barrel spending? No

close the border? No
arrest all the illegals? No
give all the illegals amnesty? Yes, just imagine all those thankful illegal immigrants ready to vote
stop outsourcing? No
create jobs? No

[manu1959]

pull out of iraq? YES
invade darfur? NO
invade afganistan? NO
close all foreign military bases? YES

negotiate with iran an nk? NO
cut ties with israel? NO
open trade with cuba? NO
open trade with venezuala? NO

raise taxes on the rich and big business? NO
raise taxes on everyone? NO
flat tax? YES
cut taxes? NO
set up universal healthcare? NO
eliminate all foreign aid? YES
eliminate pork barrel spending? YES

close the border? YES
arrest all the illegals? YES
give all the illegals amnesty? NO
stop outsourcing? YES
create jobs? NO

[Mr. P]

pull out of iraq? Yes, but slowly.
invade darfur? No
invade afganistan? We're there already, pull out.
close all foreign military bases? No

negotiate with iran an nk? No
cut ties with israel? No
open trade with cuba? No
open trade with venezuala? No

raise taxes on the rich and big business? No
raise taxes on everyone? No
flat tax? No, the 'fair' tax is better
cut taxes? The 'fair' tax does that.
set up universal healthcare? Hate this but, I'm thinking insurance industry regulation instead.
eliminate all foreign aid? Yes, and tell the UN to take a flying leap!
eliminate pork barrel spending? Yes

close the border? Yes
arrest all the illegals? Yes, then deport them

give all the illegals amnesty? No
stop outsourcing? The 'fair' tax will solve this problem
create jobs? 'fair' tax again

[JohnDoe]

Bush will NOT be defeated in '08....

[mrg666]

pull out of iraq? Yes
invade darfur? No
invade afganistan? No
close all foreign military bases? No

negotiate with iran an nk? Yes
cut ties with israel? No
open trade with cuba? Yes
open trade with venezuala? Yes

raise taxes on the rich and big business? No
raise taxes on everyone? No
flat tax? Yes
cut taxes? Yes
set up universal healthcare? Yes
eliminate all foreign aid? No
eliminate pork barrel spending? Yes

close the border? No
arrest all the illegals? No
give all the illegals amnesty? No
stop outsourcing? Yes
create jobs? Yes

im no economist but how do you set universal healthcare with cut / flat taxes
big buisiness should pay a higher rate along with the filthy rich
and then let all the illegals run round
and give millions in foreign aid

[darin]

Bush will NOT be defeated in '08....

...welcome to 6 replies ago.

[Hagbard Celine]

im no economist but how do you set universal healthcare with cut / flat taxes
big buisiness should pay a higher rate along with the filthy rich
and then let all the illegals run round
and give millions in foreign aid

I want to have my cake and eat it too. With the bazillions we've already spent in Iraq, we could've provided paid-for healthcare for us, Canada and all of South America. Ever heard of re-funneling money? We have the largest defense budget of any nation in the history of the planet. As you can see, it's not being spent wisely. That money can pay for other things. All it'll take is a little accountability and some decent management in government--a pipe dream I know.

Don't be ugly just for ugliness' sake.

[retiredman]

what are you expectations for the new democratic admin?

simple cut and paste yes no answers....

pull out of iraq? yes
invade darfur? no
invade afganistan? already there.... we will increase troop levels, I hope
close all foreign military bases? no

negotiate with iran an nk? "negotiate"? no. open and maintain a diplomatic dialog? yes
cut ties with israel? hell no
open trade with cuba? yes
open trade with venezuala? already open. aren't there any Citgo stations in your neighborhood?
raise taxes on the rich and big business? a tiny bit
raise taxes on everyone? no
flat tax? no
cut taxes? for the middle class
set up universal healthcare? try to
eliminate all foreign aid? no
eliminate pork barrel spending? why? no one would ever get any legislation passed without a wee dollop of pork!
close the border? no
arrest all the illegals? no
give all the illegals amnesty? no
stop outsourcing? stop it? no. remove incentives for companies who do it? yes
create jobs? of course....just like we did for eight years under Bill

[darin]

create jobs? of course....just like we did for eight years under Bill

...which was no better than GWB's - considering Clinton's technology bubble-collapse, vs. Bush dealing with the Worst Attack on this nation...ever.

(shrug)...

What kept Clinton's unemployment numbers reasonable? The Republican Congress.

[retiredman]

that is simply incorrect. Go to the BLS website and look at job creation numbers during the Clinton administration. He averaged month in and month out as much as Bush has been able to produce only two or three times.

and that is hilarious that you would try to give the credit for the Clinton years to the republican congress. Greenspan sure thought differently, didn't he?

I can hear the howling if I were to say that the only reason Ronnie Raygun had a booming economy was because of the democratic congress! LOL

[darin]

that is simply incorrect. Go to the BLS website and look at job creation numbers during the Clinton administration. He averaged month in and month out as much as Bush has been able to produce only two or three times.

and that is hilarious that you would try to give the credit for the Clinton years to the republican congress. Greenspan sure thought differently, didn't he?

I can hear the howling if I were to say that the only reason Ronnie Raygun had a booming economy was because of the democratic congress! LOL

Of COURSE you think it's incorrect...you didn't say it.

Just to clarify the Washington Examiner piece about the unemployment numbers during the Bush and Clinton adminstrations. The White House was quoted comparing the unemployment rates at similar points of expansion. The Clinton Adminstration did have lower unemployment rates than the current low of 4.4% for the Bush Administration as this data shows from the BLS.

That said, the current economy is strong despite a cataclysmic terrorist attack, a devastating hurricane, high gas prices and incessant, negative reporting. As I'm sure you can imagine, chronic negative reporting does affect the public's opinion even when the facts belie the media's and politicians' misrepresentations.

The media and naysayers will always try to find something negative to focus on like the increase in wages last year, which they complained didn't exist until long after the labor numbers supported the trend, and which are now channeled into inflation worries.