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    Default Parler social media App - for anyone interested

    @tailfins was kind enough to link to a few things to download to use the app outside of Apple and Google. Was easy for me, but I want to make it easier for my friends here that may be interested, so I can get you guys over there!

    First thing you will likely want to do, is make it so that your phone will accept installing 3rd party applications outside of the markets. Hopefully these instructions are up to date enough to help.

    (If you know things already, pass all this and go to the bottom where the download links are)

    How to accept the install of 3rd party apps on Apple Iphones:

    Manually install and trust an enterprise app

    When you first open an enterprise app that you've manually installed, you see a notification that the developer of the app isn't trusted on your device. You can dismiss this message, but then you can't open the app.



    After you dismiss this message, you can establish trust for the app developer. Tap Settings > General > Profiles or Profiles & Device Management. Under the "Enterprise App" heading, you see a profile for the developer.



    Tap the name of the developer profile under the Enterprise App heading to establish trust for this developer.



    Then you see a prompt to confirm your choice. After you trust this profile, you can manually install other apps from the same developer and open them immediately. This developer remains trusted until you use the Delete App button to remove all apps from the developer.



    You must be connected to the Internet to verify the app developer's certificate when establishing trust. If you're behind a firewall, make sure that it's configured to allow connections to https://ppq.apple.com. If you aren't connected to the Internet when you trust an app, the device displays "Not Verified" instead. To use the app, connect to the Internet and tap the Verify App button.

    After you verify an app for the first time, your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch must reverify the app developer's certificate periodically to maintain trust. If you can't reverify, you may see a message that verification will expire soon. To maintain trust, connect your device to the Internet, then tap the Verify App button or launch the app.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204460


    How to accept the install of 3rd party apps on Android

    Install unknown apps permission option is located in the setting app. So…

    At first, open the android default Setting app.
    Then click on the new Apps and Notifications menu.
    Now click the Special Access button. (follow below screenshot) (Gotta click on the 3 dot menu and then click special access on my Samsung phone)



    Now click Install unknown apps. Then you can see your all app list.



    Now click on the app you want to allow third party apps.
    Now you can see a new screen like the below screenshot.



    Now click the Allow from this source button.

    Now your install third party app option is enabled. So, go back to your app and tap on an APK file. Now you can install any android apps on your phone.

    https://appreviewcity.com/allow-thir...pps-android-8/


    This is a direct download here. It's from the Google App store, so it works. It's an APK file installer, or at least the one I use:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...aller&hl=en_US

    And rather than jump through hoops, this you can download here to your phone, then use the APK installer to install it (MAKE SURE you note where you download it to, wherever your download folder may be)

    http://www.debatepolicy.com/Parler_v...pkfab.com.xapk
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    How do you like needing to do things Cuba style? It's sucks, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    How do you like needing to do things Cuba style? It's sucks, huh?
    Well, not the 1st time I used a 3rd party app, so it was easy for me. But never had to do so due to censorship before.

    ** Would not surprise me if Google devises a way to detect the app on your phone and delete it. Now THAT would be going too far, but like I said, they basically control your phone in many ways if using Android, as I do of course.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Nope! I'm going to GAB. They have their own servers and can't be shut down.

    Watch this video if you want to get away from silicon valley controlled social media.

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/a/view/ke...68dbdab3e4bf16
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    I'm just grateful that our internet access isn't heavily rationed so that we can download the APKs instead of asking people in the town square if they would be kind enough to copy a needed APK to my jump drive. Imagine only having internet as wifi near a town square or university, somewhat slow, US$ 1 per GB and only in places where a cop can look over your shoulder to arrest you for viewing objectionable content, which means constantly looking behind you or having a mirror in the corner of your laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    I'm just grateful that our internet access isn't heavily rationed so that we can download the APKs instead of asking people in the town square if they would be kind enough to copy a needed APK to my jump drive. Imagine only having internet as wifi near a town square or university, somewhat slow, US$ 1 per GB and only in places where a cop can look over your shoulder to arrest you for viewing objectionable content, which means constantly looking behind you or having a mirror in the corner of your laptop.
    Amazon shut down Parler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Nope! I'm going to GAB. They have their own servers and can't be shut down.

    Watch this video if you want to get away from silicon valley controlled social media.

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/a/view/ke...68dbdab3e4bf16
    Always a way to shut them down if they want, trust me!

    First things I noticed is that their nameservers resolve to cloudflare.com. But they can build their own DNS servers. But something somewhere is always tied to services. I also noticed that they registered the domain gab.com with epik.com domain services. Much more rare, but they can do things to the domain, but that's more difficult and as stated, more rare.

    But they do have a nice setup and much more sturdy than others and more in house services.

    I just registered there and am using Parler as well. Amazon may cut them for a bit but they'll be back.
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    What the hell with Apple and Amazon trying to interfere with people's access to Parler? It's not because of the kind of messaging on Parler, let's face it, it's because of the kind of conservative messaging on Parler. This is denial of freedom of speech, as is the disabling of Trump's social media accounts.

    This is the kind of crap that goes on in Communist states. I don't recognize this country anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    What the hell with Apple and Amazon trying to interfere with people's access to Parler? It's not because of the kind of messaging on Parler, let's face it, it's because of the kind of conservative messaging on Parler. This is denial of freedom of speech, as is the disabling of Trump's social media accounts.

    This is the kind of crap that goes on in Communist states. I don't recognize this country anymore.
    Not exactly a free speech issue. But I digress; you don't recognize this country because private enterprises are taking action against buffoonish behavior on their platforms but you recognized it 5 days ago when buffoonish behavior was occuring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Not exactly a free speech issue. But I digress; you don't recognize this country because private enterprises are taking action against buffoonish behavior on their platforms but you recognized it 5 days ago when buffoonish behavior was occuring?
    I haven’t “recognized” it since the BLM “peaceful protests” (read: riots) were given a pass last year. And your implication that I was/am OK with the Capitol riots is wrong and nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Not exactly a free speech issue. But I digress; you don't recognize this country because private enterprises are taking action against buffoonish behavior on their platforms but you recognized it 5 days ago when buffoonish behavior was occuring?
    Maybe not free speech but definitely a control the narrative issue.

    And, the private company is not targeting buffonish behavior or they would have shut down BLM and their followers such as Kamala Harris and others. They are taking action against conservative voices and you know it fj so don't try to justify their actions because you don't like Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I haven’t “recognized” it since the BLM “peaceful protests” (read: riots) were given a pass last year. And your implication that I was/am OK with the Capitol riots is wrong and nasty.
    That may be but didn't seem to be the time frame referenced. FWIW I think the campaign that trump ran was abysmal; at least from the ads that I was seeing and the debate performances. That he didn't lose by that much is fairly impressive... of course that's gone down the toilet. The Loeffler and Perdue ads for the runoff weren't much better either but maybe all the other side had to do was point out stock trades and agree with trump about $2000 checks.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Maybe not free speech but definitely a control the narrative issue.

    And, the private company is not targeting buffonish behavior or they would have shut down BLM and their followers such as Kamala Harris and others. They are taking action against conservative voices and you know it fj so don't try to justify their actions because you don't like Trump.
    Those are two different things but I don't expect much from the media and big tech. I do expect more from our side and it was sorely lacking.

    But I'm not justifying their actions, just trying to figure out what you want to happen if other than to jump to Parler or wherever. Would you like a new rule or government regulation to fix it?

    I would also like to see a listing of which conservatives have been banned outside of the alt-right/QAnon nut jobs. A quick search shows conservatives moving over but not necessarily being banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Those are two different things but I don't expect much from the media and big tech. I do expect more from our side and it was sorely lacking.

    But I'm not justifying their actions, just trying to figure out what you want to happen if other than to jump to Parler or wherever. Would you like a new rule or government regulation to fix it?

    I would also like to see a listing of which conservatives have been banned outside of the alt-right/QAnon nut jobs. A quick search shows conservatives moving over but not necessarily being banned.
    What I want to happen is for TOS to be applied even handed and not heavy handed. They can still have their terms of service but it's disgusting that they banned Trump but not dictators from other countries. Or even Harris or other democrats that incite and brazenly call for violence. That's the rub! Don't you find that a little repulsive? And hypocritical? Why would anyone want to stay with a company that is so fickle?

    And the thing about QAnon ... so what if they are conspiracists? We have a forum here for conspiracies. We don't ban people for saying what they want. If GAB sees anyone posting illegal things they report it to LE. Why ban people because they want to talk about stuff they're concerned about? Give it light so it can be dissected. The more platforms try to ban it the more they feed the conspiracy. I have to tell you I wasn't that interested in QAnon until the last 48 hours and now I want to go find out what all the fuss is about .... precisely because they've been banned.

    Go to GAB and people will tell you why they been banned or deplatformed. One doctor was banned for posting about hydrocholoquine for covid treatment. Not a nut job just a dissenting voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    What I want to happen is for TOS to be applied even handed and not heavy handed. They can still have their terms of service but it's disgusting that they banned Trump but not dictators from other countries. Or even Harris or other democrats that incite and brazenly call for violence. That's the rub! Don't you find that a little repulsive? And hypocritical? Why would anyone want to stay with a company that is so fickle?

    And the thing about QAnon ... so what if they are conspiracists? We have a forum here for conspiracies. We don't ban people for saying what they want. If GAB sees anyone posting illegal things they report it to LE. Why ban people because they want to talk about stuff they're concerned about? Give it light so it can be dissected. The more platforms try to ban it the more they feed the conspiracy. I have to tell you I wasn't that interested in QAnon until the last 48 hours and now I want to go find out what all the fuss is about .... precisely because they've been banned.

    Go to GAB and people will tell you why they been banned or deplatformed. One doctor was banned for posting about hydrocholoquine for covid treatment. Not a nut job just a dissenting voice.
    You can certainly wish for TOS to be applied equally, I'm not hopeful. But the starting point is not to defend trump 4 days ago it's to present good conservative thought and not abandon one thing for another. It's another shift to tribalistic behavior; CNN for liberals Fox for conservatives, twitter for liberals parler for conservatives. It's a long-term losing strategy IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Not exactly a free speech issue. But I digress; you don't recognize this country because private enterprises are taking action against buffoonish behavior on their platforms but you recognized it 5 days ago when buffoonish behavior was occuring?
    That's a ridiculous comparison. If anyone were shocked by buffoonish behavior then they'd spend there entire life in a state of catatonic shock. We all see incredibly buffoonish behavior 365 days a year.

    I totally disagree with two things you just said:

    1. "private enterprises" - I consider Twitter and Facebook to now be utilities, used as a common method of communication and with little in the way of alternatives. The fact that Parler, one of the few alternatives, is being hindered from access for most people is evidence that they want to preserve their oligopoly/monopoly status.

    2. "taking action against buffoonish behavior" - the amount of hate-filled, violent, and inappropriate messaging Twitter and Facebook has allowed over the years is a ton. Just the calls to riot last year that they left up was a ton. The only thing that is different now is the Trump factor. He's virtually the only thing they've ever filtered.

    I'm not even a follower, but I can see what Twitter and Facebook's motivations are, and I don't like what will come next if they are allowed to selectively filter what everyone's allowed to say and allowed to hear. At the very least, both should be regulated as utilities. And maybe they are in restraint of trade and should be trust busted.
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