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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It is ridiculous. I can't say we took the money, they just sent it to us and it's sitting in our accounts. My wife works has had zero work interruptions and I've been working without interruptions so we have no need for the money. Most of the people I know do not need the money but when the argument is "get the money out there" by direct check, PPP, extra unemployment, etc. There's no rational thought behind it. Frustrating.
    We need the money to buy items to dull the pain of the crapfest that is the current political and media situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Power vacuums are readily and easily filled.
    On the one hand I'm for removing the vacuum by removing government interference. On the other hand I'm all for lobbying if the government interference is not removed/lessened. Similarly I'm not for term limits; if people need to leave as a matter of their term being up then it increases the power of lobbyists or other entrenched actors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    We need the money to buy items to dull the pain of the crapfest that is the current political and media situation.
    I do have my eye on a new motorcycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not for term limits; if people need to leave as a matter of their term being up then it increases the power of lobbyists or other entrenched actors.
    Hmm, interesting point. Not sure I agree, but it's worth a definite 'maybe'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Hmm, interesting point. Not sure I agree, but it's worth a definite 'maybe'.
    As I heard recently power vacuums are readily and easily filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    As I heard recently power vacuums are readily and easily filled.

    Just like the demands to withdraw from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. Then...guess who filled the vacuum?

    And we can't forget.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    As I heard recently power vacuums are readily and easily filled.
    Glad I could help.
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    Another alternative to Big tech tool
    a SEARCH ENGINE that actually seems to work like most search engines used to work.
    Not feeding you corporate/selected crap 1st but the anything relevant ... and nearly everything else.

    millionshort.com

    https://www.millionshort.com
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Alternative to Big Tech?

    #2 pencil

    spoken word

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    Default Thanks for reminding me Gunny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Alternative to Big Tech?

    #2 pencil

    spoken word
    Until I thought about it. You reminded me of something very important with your Honest alternative. No joke. When you really think about it.

    Facing the enemies we know we have, and having NO LEADER in the White House, or Congress to protect us the way the Constitution States.
    As an old Radioman/Signalman/Crypto Tech for the Navy. I have often considered how important people like You, and I would be to this country TODAY if....China or Russia took out ALL OF OUR Communication Satty's with their BIG TECH (from Google, Facebook, etc; capabilities.

    Made me think....WHAT WOULD WE DO? If we lost all Satellite coms, and GPS overnight?
    Much like the threat of losing our Entire POWER GRID...that really is possible today with ONE well placed NUKE BURST overhead by an enemy.
    I still do have the capabilities of CRYPTO, MORSE, High Frequency Comms, and even the silent FLAGS and SEMAPHORE comms.
    TRUTH IS...IF we would lose our HIGH TECH toys today. "WE'D LITERALLY BE UP SHEETS CREEK!"
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Until I thought about it. You reminded me of something very important with your Honest alternative. No joke. When you really think about it.

    Facing the enemies we know we have, and having NO LEADER in the White House, or Congress to protect us the way the Constitution States.
    As an old Radioman/Signalman/Crypto Tech for the Navy. I have often considered how important people like You, and I would be to this country TODAY if....China or Russia took out ALL OF OUR Communication Satty's with their BIG TECH (from Google, Facebook, etc; capabilities.

    Made me think....WHAT WOULD WE DO? If we lost all Satellite coms, and GPS overnight?
    Much like the threat of losing our Entire POWER GRID...that really is possible today with ONE well placed NUKE BURST overhead by an enemy.
    I still do have the capabilities of CRYPTO, MORSE, High Frequency Comms, and even the silent FLAGS and SEMAPHORE comms.
    TRUTH IS...IF we would lose our HIGH TECH toys today. "WE'D LITERALLY BE UP SHEETS CREEK!"
    I've thought of it. More than once. Could be wrong, but if *I* was going to attack the good ol' US of A, Comm and electrical grid.

    I've got a compass, maps, pencils and I know how to shoot an azimuth. Don't have any carrier pigeons though

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    @icansayit Never get me thinking on something

    Short wave operators with generators. CB's. Low stuff. I have this idea all this hi-tech crap will take out high tech crap.

    Ships should still be able to use Morse, correct? That is if their CRT training hasn't gotten in the way

    We'd be back to running comm wire

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    Default Gunny...you probably remember the PRC (Prick) 77 class UHF line of sight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    @icansayit Never get me thinking on something

    Short wave operators with generators. CB's. Low stuff. I have this idea all this hi-tech crap will take out high tech crap.

    Ships should still be able to use Morse, correct? That is if their CRT training hasn't gotten in the way

    We'd be back to running comm wire

    When the going gets tough...YOU GUYS WITH THOSE GREEN RADIO's still had comms!

    Don't forget. MORSE is also a Signalman's delight....FLASHING LIGHT, even Hand Held Aldis Lamps were used.
    Of course, we could go back to CARRIER PIGEONS if things GET REALLY BAD!!!
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.

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