Results 1 to 1 of 1
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    14,006
    Thanks (Given)
    4821
    Thanks (Received)
    4650
    Likes (Given)
    2509
    Likes (Received)
    1569
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075391

    Default Tucker C and G Greenwald Intel and Legisl turn to "domesitic terrorists" Libertarians

    Glenn Greenwald: Neither political party is on your side


    Former Head of CIA John Brennan
    ... Members of the Biden Team .. nominated or Appointed... Are now moving in laser-like fashion to.Try to uncover as much they can.
    About what looks very similar to Insurgency movements that we've seen Overseas.
    Where they germinate in different parts Of a country and they gain strength and.
    It brings together an Unholy alliance frequently of religious Religious extremists authoritarians.
    Fascists bigots Racists nativists even libertarians. And unfortunately i think there has been.
    This momentum that has been generated as. A result of. Unfortunately the demagogue rhetoric of People that's just Departed government but also those who Continue in the halls of congress....
    But If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. Right?





    He also mentions that Peter Schiffy and others are proposing legislation that basically turns many of the "War on Terror" Laws supposedly ONLY directed only at foreigners and "enemy combatants" onto American citizens.
    sigh, Did I ever mention the possibility of anything like that?


    I don't know what legislation Greenwald is talking about specifically but here's one that I did find.
    Peter Schiffy
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/rep-schi...terrorism-bill

    Basically it seems to just throw and extra blanket of laws around attacking gov't "officials" and/or Gov't property.
    And gives the feds more tools to investigate the same.

    But if I'm reading this thing correctly it seems that part of the law says that they can prosecute anyone who CONSPIRES with or HAS KNOWLEDGE OF any acts that involved some kind of attack on gov't property or Officials. Seems VERY loosely worded so to capture as many people possible. And ADDS that the prosecution doesn't even have to PROVE that any so called co-conspirator actually HAS knowledge of the attack to convict them.



    Jurisdiction
    principals and co-conspirators of an offense under this section, and accessories after the fact to any offense under this section, if at least one of the circumstances described in subparagraphs (A) through

    (H) of paragraph (1) is applicable to at least one offender.

    ‘‘(c) PROOF REQUIREMENTS.—The following shall
    shall exist over all apply to prosecutions under this section:

    ‘‘(1) KNOWLEDGE.—The prosecution is not required to prove knowledge by any defendant of a jurisdictional base alleged in the indictment.

    So if you questions these laws (to keep us safe) does it mean you must "hate the government"?

    TC:
    Who's going to stand up in opposition to this i don't see any of the corporate.
    Republican caucus really even noticing. I see a lot of people i thought were.
    Liberal turn out to be not liberal at. All but more authoritarian.
    So how do we prevent this from happening?

    GG:
    Any idea well one of the things one of.
    The things i'm really hoping for is that.
    We can finally get out of enough people.
    Believing that the way to understand.
    Washington is democrat versus republican.
    And that you side with one team and.
    Believe they're on your side and.
    Defending your interest and the other.
    Team is your enemy.

    It is not true there is a ruling class.
    Elite that is extremely comfortable with.
    The establishment wings of both parties.
    They love nancy pelosi and chuck schumer.
    Every bit as much as they love.
    Mitch mcconnell and mitt romney and and.
    Marco rubio and paul ryan.
    Those are the people who they fund.
    Equally because those are the people who.
    Serve their agenda.

    Then there's a whole other huge group of.
    People at whose expense they rule in.
    Some of them consider themselves on the.
    Left and some consider themselves.
    On the right and it's time to break down.Those barriers.

    i was super.
    Enthused to see a group of eight.
    Left-wing politicians.
    Including rashida talib and elian omar.
    And others say.
    We will not allow a new war on terror.
    Because we know how dangerous it can be.
    Let them stand with right-wing members.

    To break down This artificial false fraudulent prism.
    That the way to understand washington is. Thinking that one of the two parties is.
    On your side. Neither of them is.

    TC:
    I think People are going to be saving that Permanently, what you just said on their Dvrs.
    And i certainly hope they do because You're right.
    glenn greenwald thank you. Very much.
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-23-2021 at 09:12 AM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums