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    Default Those Whiney troops dont need time off

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070919/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq

    Republicans speak their minds about troop support.

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    "whiney"? More rhetoric from the board dolt!

    "The idea of winning the war in Iraq is beginning to get a second look," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who led opposition to the bill alongside Sen. John McCain.
    But momentum behind the bill stalled Wednesday after Sen. John Warner, R-Va., announced he decided the consequences would be disastrous. Warner, a former longtime chairman of the Armed Services Committee, had voted in favor of the measure in July but said he changed his mind after talking to senior military officials.
    "We have a new strategy. We have success on the ground," said McCain. Pulling out troops would spark "chaos and genocide in the region, and we will be back," he said.
    So where are the comments you allude to that republicans referred to the troops as "whiney"?
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    Hey, we've done our part for them. We've got the "support the troops" magnet that proves it.
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    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    I have no doubt that our military can obtain a military victory...but to what end?

    the root problem in Iraq will not be nullified by an American military victory, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I have no doubt that our military can obtain a military victory...but to what end?

    the root problem in Iraq will not be nullified by an American military victory, IMHO.
    I don't understand how a military victory can ever be achieved. We're facing ideology. You can't kill ideology. Even if we killed every man, woman and child who fights against us, their relatives and friends would take up their cause. It's an endless fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    I don't understand how a military victory can ever be achieved. We're facing ideology. You can't kill ideology. Even if we killed every man, woman and child who fights against us, their relatives and friends would take up their cause. It's an endless fight.
    nazi germany.....imperialistic japan.....stalinist russia.....fascist italy and spain.....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    nazi germany.....imperialistic japan.....stalinist russia.....fascist italy and spain.....
    dont confuse people with the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    nazi germany.....imperialistic japan.....stalinist russia.....fascist italy and spain.....
    Ain't historical knowledge grand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    I don't understand how a military victory can ever be achieved. We're facing ideology. You can't kill ideology. Even if we killed every man, woman and child who fights against us, their relatives and friends would take up their cause. It's an endless fight.
    Of course you have no understanding of how a military victory can be achieved. You are not in the military and have no education in military arts or tactics. Let the individuals who are best suited to make these calls make them.

    As for this being an endless fight....during which war was it not an endless fight? I don't recall anyone saying WWI would be over by 1919 or we will finish WWII on a schedule. It doesn't ever happen that way. This conflict will be over when it is safe for us to come home.

    And the republicans voted to stop the dem's from setting a timeline. There are already regulations in the armed forces that allow for the required training between deployments. Let the services handle this internally, like they have been.
    "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    You can't kill ideology.

    And if you believe that then call the Prime Minister of Japan - he'll connect you with a man who has 3 penises and 5 balls...

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