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    Default With America Shut Down, Daily Life May Change

    I think he's onto something. I talked to my older son tonight, asked what they were doing for the weekend. He said they'd planned on going to the Shamrock Run to watch Liam for Derek and Lindsay who were running. Canceled.

    He said Derek called and invited them over to play board games, that's what they're doing.

    At least for my kids, seems his conclusion may not be quite on the mark.

    https://slate.com/business/2020/03/c...ore-times.html

    We’re Not Going Back to the Way Life Was Before
    Thanks to the coronavirus, the future may arrive earlier than expected.
    By HENRY GRABAR


    MARCH 12, 2020

    A few years ago I interviewed Tyler Morse, the developer working to restore Eero Saarinen’s TWA terminal at JFK Airport into a hotel. A large chunk of the business, he told me, would be hidden from the travelers who came to sip cocktails and gawk at the soaring central atrium. This was the conference center: a subterranean zone of banquet halls and offices that would provide a crucial revenue stream. “A big part of airport hotel business is the 12- to 15-person meeting,” Morse went on. “People fly in, you just need to meet, then they fly out.” You didn’t need a city to do that, just an airport and a conference room. Suits were already meeting near hubs in Dallas or Chicago; American executives with partners from Europe, the Middle East, or Africa could meet at his hotel. And fly right back home again.

    It seems insane, but that’s the way things go in the corporate world. For businesses that trade primarily in ideas, study after study has shown enormous benefits associated with being in one place. Economists call this the “agglomeration effect”; it explains why firms keep clustering in places like Silicon Valley despite the expense.


    I thought of Morse last week after a single biotech leadership meeting at a Boston hotel was found responsible for 77 of Massachusetts’ 95 COVID-19 cases. I thought about all the corporate gathering that ultimately doesn’t seem all that necessary. If there is any sign of our future in Italy, where everything but groceries and pharmacies has been shut down, a once-in-a-lifetime break with normalcy is ahead of us.

    ...



    But what happens after the coronavirus?


    In some ways, the answer is: all the old normal stuff. The pandemic will take lives and throttle economies and scuttle routines, but it will pass. Americans will never stop going to basketball games. They won’t stop going on vacation. They’ll meet to do business. No decentralizing technology so far—not telegrams, not telephones, not television, and not the internet—has dented that human desire to shake hands, despite technologists’ predictions to the contrary.


    Yet there are real reasons to think that things will not revert to the way they were last week. Small disruptions create small societal shifts; big ones change things for good. The O.J. Simpson trial helped tank the popularity of daytime soap operas. The New York transit strike of 1980 is credited with prompting several long-term changes in the city, including bus and bike lanes, dollar vans, and women wearing sneakers to work. The 1918 flu pandemic prompted the development of national health care in Europe.

    ...

    People might stick with the disruptions to their lives, too: More deliveries taking the place of personal trips. More cooking, and less eating out. More driving in solitude—or, optimistically, biking—and less reliance on Uber, Lyft, and transit. Therapy, yoga, and medical advice online. More video games; less live entertainment. The social fabric that breaks might not be repaired.


    All these changes point in one direction: away from being together, whether that means meetings of multinational VPs or concerts at the local dive bar. They all suggest ways of business and life in which people travel much less than they do now. Maybe the only thing that sticks is virtual yoga. Let’s hope so.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I think he's onto something. I talked to my older son tonight, asked what they were doing for the weekend. He said they'd planned on going to the Shamrock Run to watch Liam for Derek and Lindsay who were running. Canceled.

    He said Derek called and invited them over to play board games, that's what they're doing.

    At least for my kids, seems his conclusion may not be quite on the mark.

    https://slate.com/business/2020/03/c...ore-times.html

    We’re Not Going Back to the Way Life Was Before
    Thanks to the coronavirus, the future may arrive earlier than expected.
    By HENRY GRABAR


    MARCH 12, 2020

    A few years ago I interviewed Tyler Morse, the developer working to restore Eero Saarinen’s TWA terminal at JFK Airport into a hotel. A large chunk of the business, he told me, would be hidden from the travelers who came to sip cocktails and gawk at the soaring central atrium. This was the conference center: a subterranean zone of banquet halls and offices that would provide a crucial revenue stream. “A big part of airport hotel business is the 12- to 15-person meeting,” Morse went on. “People fly in, you just need to meet, then they fly out.” You didn’t need a city to do that, just an airport and a conference room. Suits were already meeting near hubs in Dallas or Chicago; American executives with partners from Europe, the Middle East, or Africa could meet at his hotel. And fly right back home again.

    It seems insane, but that’s the way things go in the corporate world. For businesses that trade primarily in ideas, study after study has shown enormous benefits associated with being in one place. Economists call this the “agglomeration effect”; it explains why firms keep clustering in places like Silicon Valley despite the expense.


    I thought of Morse last week after a single biotech leadership meeting at a Boston hotel was found responsible for 77 of Massachusetts’ 95 COVID-19 cases. I thought about all the corporate gathering that ultimately doesn’t seem all that necessary. If there is any sign of our future in Italy, where everything but groceries and pharmacies has been shut down, a once-in-a-lifetime break with normalcy is ahead of us.

    ...

    But what happens after the coronavirus?

    In some ways, the answer is: all the old normal stuff. The pandemic will take lives and throttle economies and scuttle routines, but it will pass. Americans will never stop going to basketball games. They won’t stop going on vacation. They’ll meet to do business. No decentralizing technology so far—not telegrams, not telephones, not television, and not the internet—has dented that human desire to shake hands, despite technologists’ predictions to the contrary.

    Yet there are real reasons to think that things will not revert to the way they were last week. Small disruptions create small societal shifts; big ones change things for good. The O.J. Simpson trial helped tank the popularity of daytime soap operas. The New York transit strike of 1980 is credited with prompting several long-term changes in the city, including bus and bike lanes, dollar vans, and women wearing sneakers to work. The 1918 flu pandemic prompted the development of national health care in Europe.

    ...

    People might stick with the disruptions to their lives, too: More deliveries taking the place of personal trips. More cooking, and less eating out. More driving in solitude—or, optimistically, biking—and less reliance on Uber, Lyft, and transit. Therapy, yoga, and medical advice online. More video games; less live entertainment. The social fabric that breaks might not be repaired.

    All these changes point in one direction: away from being together, whether that means meetings of multinational VPs or concerts at the local dive bar. They all suggest ways of business and life in which people travel much less than they do now. Maybe the only thing that sticks is virtual yoga. Let’s hope so.
    Interesting read, and I was thinking of just this issue last weekend when I drove over to Madison, "would the roads have less traffic on them?" Well, nope, there was as much if not more traffic than I've ever seen, especially IN Madison. The beltline was packed, especially when I was leaving town, it was bumper to bumper and doing the inch worm for miles. Thank God for SiruisXM radio and the Radio Classics channel that plays the old time radio show programs. Johnny Dollar is one of my favorites. A very good distraction to help keep a person calm.

    But I have to go over again today, and I'm hoping that more people are staying home. It would make the drive there and back, about 80 miles one way, and on a single lane highway until Madison, so much easier to take. I don't do traffic that well. I'm a little susceptible to minor... ok, possibly, MAJOR road rage.

    It's like this...

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    Was thinking this morning and then read an article to possibly be prepared for a "6 week" quarantine period. That's a LONG time.

    There are things that eventually you will feel you MUST get out to do. Maybe order in a ton and tip with credit, maybe even get some groceries delivered the same way. Pray that you either have enough or can still maybe get disinfectants or TP or whatever household stuff you need the same way.

    A LOT of TV watching and a lot of surfing the internet! Maybe a ton of coffee and a ton of sleeping with it.

    Then animals to think of and everything that comes with them. 2 "kids" in the house.

    6 weeks may not sound like a very long time - but is going to feel next to forever if you need anything remotely important and start doing without even every day normal things.
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    I get a massage every week. I get my nails done every two weeks. I spend an hour in hyperbaric chamber once a week. This doesn't include bocce twice a week, bowling once a week and game night once or twice a week. I have someone come clean house every two weeks.

    I have put all this on hold for next 2 weeks. The only thing on my schedule of leaving house is driving roommate to and from colonoscopy on 24th.

    Daily life will change for me temporarily, but it's doable.
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    Almost a year later...
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
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    I'm using this opportunity to study diligently and sharpen my job skills. I plan to take a break in April for my wife and I to find out how far South one can go using buses. Can you arrive at the Canal Zone? Mexico and Central America have essentially given up on enforcing COVID restrictions. Next month, I plan to take a long weekend to go to a crawfish festival. My wife was pleasantly shocked to discover a place in the US (Louisiana) that has lots of similarities to Amazon Brazil. Cajun country is REALLY laid back about enforcing COVID restrictions as well. In Amazon Brazil, crawfish as known as "Lagostinha de agua doce" (miniature fresh water lobsters).

    I'm not interesting in visiting, much less living anywhere that is too fussy about COVID restrictions.
    Experienced Social Distancer ... waaaay before COVID.

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    I think it will change for the better. Life may not get back to pre-virus normal, but many activities will resume. My daughter got the second vaccine shot on Thursday. Her boyfriend, who she hasn't seen in person for almost a year, is getting a Covid-19 test today. If it passes, they can finally get together again this weekend. To me, that is a step toward resuming normalcy. I want to be able to see a game at Dodger Stadium again. If I have to wear a mask, so be it. Masks and social distancing are not a hindrance to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I think it will change for the better. Life may not get back to pre-virus normal, but many activities will resume. My daughter got the second vaccine shot on Thursday. Her boyfriend, who she hasn't seen in person for almost a year, is getting a Covid-19 test today. If it passes, they can finally get together again this weekend. To me, that is a step toward resuming normalcy. I want to be able to see a game at Dodger Stadium again. If I have to wear a mask, so be it. Masks and social distancing are not a hindrance to me.
    I imagine quite a few people besides yourself don't mind hiding their mugs behind masks

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    Default This entire HOAX created by the Dems after the COVID attack is...UNCONSTITUTIONAL


    The Congress, President, Governors, Mayors of the most LIBERAL states are all TAKING OUR AMERICAN FREEDOMS AWAY.
    It is unconstitutional for anyone to STOP ME or ANY OF YOU...from leaving your home for any reason. Stopping anyone from going to Church, Work, Stores, Parks, Other States or Cities.

    The RADICALS in charge of the White House, Both bodies of Congress, and the Supreme Court are HAPPILY taking control of WE THE PEOPLE in every way they can.

    ONCE AGAIN. I dare anyone here to prove me WRONG. And some can try but the TRUTH cannot, and will not change...BECAUSE YOU SAY SO.
    I have the 1st Amendment on my side, as do you. But Lies have consequences...and sadly for the RADICALS....So does the TRUTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I imagine quite a few people besides yourself don't mind hiding their mugs behind masks
    Do you mean like this?

    Experienced Social Distancer ... waaaay before COVID.

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