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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    If Trump is found guilty of cheating on his tax returns, should he be absolved of blame because he is a former president?
    Of course not. There shouldn't be different rules for the "elite." Not to say of course that this isn't politically motivated craptastic pile of crap. It's populist clickbait for the progressives.
    Last edited by fj1200; 02-26-2021 at 01:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    They're not being publicly released, they're going to the prosecutor and they would only be seen by the grand jury. And apparently it's not just the tax returns being released it's all the documentation that goes in to preparing tax returns and they're gettig them from trump's accounting firm.

    If a judge has signed off on the search and seizure then then there's apparently probably cause.
    Translation: if the USSC says it's okay, then it's Constitutional. Like Obamacare

    Probable cause: He's Donald Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not suggesting we go crazy with backdating crimes but things, especially current infractions, should be investigated regardless of party. The problem is we don't have an independent anything at any level of government when it comes to partisan type investigations.



    I'm sure none of them will. These aren't major crimes but you're right, things need to be done on an even basis.
    What do you consider current? They want to investigate what he was doing before he was president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Translation: if the USSC says it's okay, then it's Constitutional. Like Obamacare

    Probable cause: He's Donald Trump
    That's how it works. And of course it's politically motivated.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    What do you consider current? They want to investigate what he was doing before he was president.
    They've been at this for close to four years. Started with the Stormy Daniels payoff IIRC which was current when they started probing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That's how it works. And of course it's politically motivated.



    They've been at this for close to four years. Started with the Stormy Daniels payoff IIRC which was current when they started probing.
    Our justice system is supposed to redress grievences. Right wrongs. AllI see is a money-making industry that has ruled itself Constitutional, based mostly on spite and revenge. The accused is the biggest loser no matter the legal finding of the court. You have only as much defense from false accusations as you can afford.

    Quite the perversion of "justice".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post

    The real question is why do you think he shouldn't be subject to the laws just like everyone else?
    The real question is why is Trump not allowed the same protections as other citizens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    The real question is why is Trump not allowed the same protections as other citizens?
    Because the behemoth he has dared to assault has decided to destroy him and thus give any others in the future an historic example of what they too will one day face!
    These people doing this have no honor, no integrity, they have only darkness, evil , greed and their corrupt hands on power!
    Trump dared to stab the dragon- now the dragon says -its my turn to teach you and all others the immensely high price that you must pay for daring such an affront!

    The operate with evil, hatred and revenge.
    And with the help of the minions that they have spent decades placing into power.--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Because the behemoth he has dared to assault has decided to destroy him and thus give any others in the future an historic example of what they too will one day face!
    These people doing this have no honor, no integrity, they have only darkness, evil , greed and their corrupt hands on power!
    Trump dared to stab the dragon- now the dragon says -its my turn to teach you and all others the immensely high price that you must pay for daring such an affront!

    The operate with evil, hatred and revenge.
    And with the help of the minions that they have spent decades placing into power.--Tyr
    Pretty much how I see it. This is nothing but petty revenge and a lesson for the audience.

    Add to that I think Pelosi is personally using the opportunity for her power mad ass to take down a President. Even as a former one he will still be the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Our justice system is supposed to redress grievences. Right wrongs. AllI see is a money-making industry that has ruled itself Constitutional, based mostly on spite and revenge. The accused is the biggest loser no matter the legal finding of the court. You have only as much defense from false accusations as you can afford.

    Quite the perversion of "justice".
    I'm not going to argue that to much. But he's got the money, we'll see how much false there is.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    The real question is why is Trump not allowed the same protections as other citizens?
    How is he not? Subpoena issued, subpoena appealed, appeal lost. He even got to argue his case all the way up to SCOTUS.
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    To quote Hillary Clinton "'What difference, at this point, does it make?'.

    Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not going to argue that to much. But he's got the money, we'll see how much false there is.



    How is he not? Subpoena issued, subpoena appealed, appeal lost. He even got to argue his case all the way up to SCOTUS.
    Lucky him. The justice system can help itself to however much it takes to drag this out and as pointed out by Mr P, what does it matter at this point? I would be far more impressed by the US government investigating something that matters.

    Like election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Lucky him. The justice system can help itself to however much it takes to drag this out and as pointed out by Mr P, what does it matter at this point? I would be far more impressed by the US government investigating something that matters.

    Like election fraud.
    Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Al Green, Maxipad Waters all are using this to find dirt on Trump for one reason.....FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE HE NEVER RUNS AGAIN!

    They have all admitted in public....that's their only reason.

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    During his time as president, Trump was immune from prosecution. In the eyes of his ever loyal support base, Trump should always be immune from prosecution. Fortunately, he is not. The tax cases come first. Then the sexual assault cases. Keep in mind that politicians are not bringing these cases. If Trump is found not guilty, so be it. At least others finally get their day in court.

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    Default Were you on another planet for the last 4 years Gabby??

    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    During his time as president, Trump was immune from prosecution. In the eyes of his ever loyal support base, Trump should always be immune from prosecution. Fortunately, he is not. The tax cases come first. Then the sexual assault cases. Keep in mind that politicians are not bringing these cases. If Trump is found not guilty, so be it. At least others finally get their day in court.
    Your fibber, confabulators, liars, idiots, and hypocrites have been trying and losing ALL OF THOSE THINGS before. And sadly for YOU especially. They still won't work.
    In fact...you reminded me of this...

    And your Wonder Witch of Than Franthisco is just like you....
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Lucky him. The justice system can help itself to however much it takes to drag this out and as pointed out by Mr P, what does it matter at this point? I would be far more impressed by the US government investigating something that matters.

    Like election fraud.
    There may be things wrong in the justice system but trump is not the poster boy for it though some want him to be apparently. What's the point? Illegal is illegal. There's no globalist conspiracy here.
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