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    Default Those Vaccinated Must Continue to Wear Masks to Protect Others

    I know this isn't his first time making this similar statement, now reinforcing his beliefs.

    People that are asymptomatic can still pass along this virus. That was not the intent with these vaccines. They are supposed to "teach" the body what to do, and if one was later presented with the virus, the vaccine will overtake it and attack and eliminate. Well, maybe it tries to overtake and attack, and apparently successful in helping millions. But doesn't appear to be much confidence in the elimination department.

    If you can still pick it up, carry it and pass it along to others, well then that's a pretty big deal. Masks will then be around for quite some time and it's going to take much longer to eliminate anything and much more than the usual amounts to reach any herd immunity.

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    Fauci: Those Vaccinated Must Continue to Wear Masks to Protect Others

    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that Americans who have been vaccinated need to continue wearing masks to protect others from spreading coronavirus.

    Anchor George Stephanopoulos said, “We don’t know a lot about how vaccines affect transmission, whether they truly prevent transmission. For people who have been vaccinated, what can they do?”

    Fauci said, “Well, you should still be careful, George, that you could conceivably have, because the endpoint of the vaccine efficacy trial is preventing symptomatic disease, which means that potentially theoretically, and maybe, in reality, you’re going to have infection that you don’t get any clinical manifestation, you could be protected from disease and still have the virus, and if that’s the case that’s the reason why you hear all the public health officials say, wear a mask. The reason is, essentially, to protect other people, you may inadvertently infect someone else even though you’re protected. That’s the reason.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...rotect-others/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I know this isn't his first time making this similar statement, now reinforcing his beliefs.

    People that are asymptomatic can still pass along this virus. That was not the intent with these vaccines. They are supposed to "teach" the body what to do, and if one was later presented with the virus, the vaccine will overtake it and attack and eliminate. Well, maybe it tries to overtake and attack, and apparently successful in helping millions. But doesn't appear to be much confidence in the elimination department.

    If you can still pick it up, carry it and pass it along to others, well then that's a pretty big deal. Masks will then be around for quite some time and it's going to take much longer to eliminate anything and much more than the usual amounts to reach any herd immunity.

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    Fauci: Those Vaccinated Must Continue to Wear Masks to Protect Others

    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that Americans who have been vaccinated need to continue wearing masks to protect others from spreading coronavirus.

    Anchor George Stephanopoulos said, “We don’t know a lot about how vaccines affect transmission, whether they truly prevent transmission. For people who have been vaccinated, what can they do?”

    Fauci said, “Well, you should still be careful, George, that you could conceivably have, because the endpoint of the vaccine efficacy trial is preventing symptomatic disease, which means that potentially theoretically, and maybe, in reality, you’re going to have infection that you don’t get any clinical manifestation, you could be protected from disease and still have the virus, and if that’s the case that’s the reason why you hear all the public health officials say, wear a mask. The reason is, essentially, to protect other people, you may inadvertently infect someone else even though you’re protected. That’s the reason.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...rotect-others/
    Uh huh. Point: I've been doing fine with the mask and no vaccine. Not seeing any incentive here in getting the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I know this isn't his first time making this similar statement, now reinforcing his beliefs.

    People that are asymptomatic can still pass along this virus. That was not the intent with these vaccines. They are supposed to "teach" the body what to do, and if one was later presented with the virus, the vaccine will overtake it and attack and eliminate. Well, maybe it tries to overtake and attack, and apparently successful in helping millions. But doesn't appear to be much confidence in the elimination department.

    If you can still pick it up, carry it and pass it along to others, well then that's a pretty big deal. Masks will then be around for quite some time and it's going to take much longer to eliminate anything and much more than the usual amounts to reach any herd immunity.

    ---

    Fauci: Those Vaccinated Must Continue to Wear Masks to Protect Others

    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that Americans who have been vaccinated need to continue wearing masks to protect others from spreading coronavirus.

    Anchor George Stephanopoulos said, “We don’t know a lot about how vaccines affect transmission, whether they truly prevent transmission. For people who have been vaccinated, what can they do?”

    Fauci said, “Well, you should still be careful, George, that you could conceivably have, because the endpoint of the vaccine efficacy trial is preventing symptomatic disease, which means that potentially theoretically, and maybe, in reality, you’re going to have infection that you don’t get any clinical manifestation, you could be protected from disease and still have the virus, and if that’s the case that’s the reason why you hear all the public health officials say, wear a mask. The reason is, essentially, to protect other people, you may inadvertently infect someone else even though you’re protected. That’s the reason.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...rotect-others/
    The mask is an exercise in herd control. They are not going to let it slide away that easily.
    As it represents herd control and FEAR!!!

    They want and need both... as their agenda needs both..
    The masses must appeal to them for relief--for salvation.

    This is not about any medical need or priority.
    It is political. It is them representing as the the great and mighty saviors--the almighty --OZ...!!

    Question is-will we as a nation wake up to the scam...??-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The mask is an exercise in herd control. They are not going to let it slide away that easily.
    As it represents herd control and FEAR!!!

    They want and need both... as their agenda needs both..
    The masses must appeal to them for relief--for salvation.

    This is not about any medical need or priority.
    It is political. It is them representing as the the great and mighty saviors--the almighty --OZ...!!

    Question is-will we as a nation wake up to the scam...??-Tyr
    An interesting wild card in this dynamic is the role of corruption or even only a self-serving interest in getting paid. We are in an upside-down world when spending time in Mexico is a pursuit of freedom. Lefties are turning out to be more of a threat than drug cartels. Pay no attention to internet information regarding Mexican travel restrictions. If you attempt to cross the land border, no one will stop you.
    Experienced Social Distancer ... waaaay before COVID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The mask is an exercise in herd control. They are not going to let it slide away that easily.
    As it represents herd control and FEAR!!!

    They want and need both... as their agenda needs both..
    The masses must appeal to them for relief--for salvation.

    This is not about any medical need or priority.
    It is political. It is them representing as the the great and mighty saviors--the almighty --OZ...!!

    Question is-will we as a nation wake up to the scam...??-Tyr
    I'm not turning into a conspiracy theorist, just sharing food for thought. A lot of truth in this video!! And the rest just never know what our future may hold.

    Wonder if it's noticed on my little unknown account and delete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    An interesting wild card in this dynamic is the role of corruption or even only a self-serving interest in getting paid. We are in an upside-down world when spending time in Mexico is a pursuit of freedom. Lefties are turning out to be more of a threat than drug cartels. Pay no attention to internet information regarding Mexican travel restrictions. If you attempt to cross the land border, no one will stop you.
    They never have stopped people from the US crossing the Border. They need their border town, tourist money. Try to go inland more than a hundred miles or so and you start getting questioned.

    I would be more concerned about getting back. Assuming of course I was coming back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Uh huh. Point: I've been doing fine with the mask and no vaccine. Not seeing any incentive here in getting the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The mask is an exercise in herd control. They are not going to let it slide away that easily.
    As it represents herd control and FEAR!!!

    They want and need both... as their agenda needs both..
    The masses must appeal to them for relief--for salvation.

    This is not about any medical need or priority.
    It is political. It is them representing as the the great and mighty saviors--the almighty --OZ...!!

    Question is-will we as a nation wake up to the scam...??-Tyr


    Personally, I get sick as a dog for three to five days if I get the flu vaccine. I ain't gonna take ANY chances with the latest versions of Covid shots.

    Additionally, I'm old enough to remember the swine flu debacle back in 1976. The Corpsman lined us all up and said we had to take it. I stepped out of line and denied the shot.

    450+ folks came down with Guillain-Barre syndrome (a rare neurological disorder) before the Command could get me a Mast and all charges were dropped.

    I hear folks around here, some did ok some not so much. Even had one "young" lady who had to be life flighted to West Palm after she got her shot.

    Anybody needs (or wants one) can have mine


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post





    Personally, I get sick as a dog for three to five days if I get the flu vaccine. I ain't gonna take ANY chances with the latest versions of Covid shots.

    Additionally, I'm old enough to remember the swine flu debacle back in 1976. The Corpsman lined us all up and said we had to take it. I stepped out of line and denied the shot.

    450+ folks came down with Guillain-Barre syndrome (a rare neurological disorder) before the Command could get me a Mast and all charges were dropped.

    I hear folks around here, some did ok some not so much. Even had one "young" lady who had to be life flighted to West Palm after she got her shot.

    Anybody needs (or wants one) can have mine


    My daughter had COVID. It's not a joke. I was a second away from calling 9-1-1 at one point. She recovered. Then she go the shots. The first one made her feel like she had COVID again.

    Like the China flu itself, I am sure reaction to the vaccine is individual and at least at this point in time, taking it is voluntary. It's one of those decisions we each have to make for ourselves. What I'm seeing is there are those that want a guarantee, and those it has not affected blowing off the concerns or issues of those that are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    My daughter had COVID. It's not a joke. I was a second away from calling 9-1-1 at one point. She recovered. Then she go the shots. The first one made her feel like she had COVID again.

    Like the China flu itself, I am sure reaction to the vaccine is individual and at least at this point in time, taking it is voluntary. It's one of those decisions we each have to make for ourselves. What I'm seeing is there are those that want a guarantee, and those it has not affected blowing off the concerns or issues of those that are.
    From what I've heard the side effects are more likely with the 2nd one for some reason. When I got my shingles vaccine shot they said I might feel flu like symptoms. The first shot was fine but I definitely felt them for a few hours after the second one. Still, better than actual shingles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post





    Personally, I get sick as a dog for three to five days if I get the flu vaccine. I ain't gonna take ANY chances with the latest versions of Covid shots.

    Additionally, I'm old enough to remember the swine flu debacle back in 1976. The Corpsman lined us all up and said we had to take it. I stepped out of line and denied the shot.

    450+ folks came down with Guillain-Barre syndrome (a rare neurological disorder) before the Command could get me a Mast and all charges were dropped.

    I hear folks around here, some did ok some not so much. Even had one "young" lady who had to be life flighted to West Palm after she got her shot.

    Anybody needs (or wants one) can have mine


    Same here. Anybody that wants it-CAN HAVE MINE.
    I turned 67 years old today and have made it that far without it,
    without any other flu shuts except the one I took back in the 80's
    that immediately gave me the flu-- one that laid me low and beat
    the hell out of me. I said-- NEVER AGAIN. And I damn well meant it.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    Personally, I get sick as a dog for three to five days if I get the flu vaccine. I ain't gonna take ANY chances with the latest versions of Covid shots.

    Additionally, I'm old enough to remember the swine flu debacle back in 1976. The Corpsman lined us all up and said we had to take it. I stepped out of line and denied the shot.

    450+ folks came down with Guillain-Barre syndrome (a rare neurological disorder) before the Command could get me a Mast and all charges were dropped.

    I hear folks around here, some did ok some not so much. Even had one "young" lady who had to be life flighted to West Palm after she got her shot.

    Anybody needs (or wants one) can have mine
    For my own reasons I'll most likely be choosing to get it. But I 100% respect and understand those who will be choosing to opt out. Reading what happened to you and I likely wouldn't get one either! Folks gotta understand that others may have good and legit reasons of their own to opt out.

    I got me the flu a few times from the shot. But overall pretty good, and do seem to not get it otherwise. So depends on the year and if I go to the doc or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    My daughter had COVID. It's not a joke. I was a second away from calling 9-1-1 at one point. She recovered. Then she go the shots. The first one made her feel like she had COVID again.

    Like the China flu itself, I am sure reaction to the vaccine is individual and at least at this point in time, taking it is voluntary. It's one of those decisions we each have to make for ourselves. What I'm seeing is there are those that want a guarantee, and those it has not affected blowing off the concerns or issues of those that are.
    Yup, it's quite real and quite deadly to many. I'm glad to hear she fully recovered!

    And yups again, each person is different, and some have had quite bad reactions. Why? I haven't heard why yet. Just unlucky? Something else about them or in them that together set off the reactions? Dunno.

    The shot is no guarantee, proven by the 'you must still wear masks after shot' thingy. We don't even know yet how long and if it will make you immune. Can you still pass it along even with the shot? So many unanswered questions right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    From what I've heard the side effects are more likely with the 2nd one for some reason. When I got my shingles vaccine shot they said I might feel flu like symptoms. The first shot was fine but I definitely felt them for a few hours after the second one. Still, better than actual shingles.
    General side effects for most are perhaps soreness in the shot area or a bit of a rash maybe, some small flue like symptoms, some get covid-19 symptoms fairly hard. And then others have had it worse... I did read about a bunch of folks that needed an epi shot or whatever due to anaphylactic shock. Others reported to be lightheaded and an increase in heart rate. All of those considered rare. Then there were much much worse reactions up to death - but more rare than the others. And when honestly comparing the smaller harsh reaction and then the worst reactions, they are in fact rare in comparison to the millions getting the shot without issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Same here. Anybody that wants it-CAN HAVE MINE.
    I turned 67 years old today and have made it that far without it,
    without any other flu shuts except the one I took back in the 80's
    that immediately gave me the flu-- one that laid me low and beat
    the hell out of me. I said-- NEVER AGAIN. And I damn well meant it.-Tyr
    I can fully respect that, my friend!! Truly is an individual decision. And if one doesn't fit into the criteria where they may have little choice, then that is up to the individual to get it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Same here. Anybody that wants it-CAN HAVE MINE.
    I turned 67 years old today and have made it that far without it,
    without any other flu shuts except the one I took back in the 80's
    that immediately gave me the flu-- one that laid me low and beat
    the hell out of me. I said-- NEVER AGAIN. And I damn well meant it.-Tyr
    Happy birthday

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    From what I've heard the side effects are more likely with the 2nd one for some reason. When I got my shingles vaccine shot they said I might feel flu like symptoms. The first shot was fine but I definitely felt them for a few hours after the second one. Still, better than actual shingles.
    Typhoid or cholera shots will put you in the dead roach position wishing you had never been born for a a good 24-36 hours. The idea of getting another US gov't vaccine doesn't phase me a bit.

    As I said, I don't have much option but get it. At the same time, I have some REAL issues with the politicizing of the crap. And definitely issue an issue with politicizing the masks. I've not lost sight of how it should be, but I don't let that get in the way of the reality politics is playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I'm not turning into a conspiracy theorist, just sharing food for thought. A lot of truth in this video!! And the rest just never know what our future may hold.

    Wonder if it's noticed on my little unknown account and delete?

    Too much truth in that video...
    Now as one of billions being duped worldwide--what can one person do about it?
    Answer--who knows?
    Big government is in its explosion stage..
    As in, it is exploding in size and in power.
    We are now halfway into becoming the the "borg".
    We are deep into the stage being set to do away with our Constitution.
    I mention that I will not take the miracle vaccine and I see how that flies with some.. even here.
    Yet I never said to any person that they must do the same because I chose to do that.
    I am a firm believer in -their right-- to choose..
    As we se now and will son see in the future--those blindly out of fear jumping on the herd train will gladly demand that those that are not blindly jumping on that herd-train-- be punished- and be severely forced to follow them off of the cliff..
    And yes, that is about the size of it and the future will show that the mass herd--cheered the elimination of those that saw the truth and refused to become cattle...
    Know this the dem party is that instrument...
    The dem party leads the charge and seeks to become the one ruler over -ALL.
    My opinion is- "every democrat is a traitor to to this nation."
    And in any honest look at its actions, its platform, its agenda points to that truth -to that reality.
    Truth and reality says-- the dems are the new Nazi's that have not yet gained total control...
    Wake up. It is not a nightmare dream --it is a sad, dangerous and tragic reality. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Happy birthday
    Not bad for a farm-boy that lived from age 17 until age 30- never expecting or planning on reaching age 30...
    And one took so many risks, possible lethal risks during that time frame.
    Actually, I never stopped that wild ride until age 34 --when my daughter was born!
    One look at her-stopped it in its tracks...
    I bet you felt the same way, when first seeing your daughter my friend.
    I was absolutely floored by that immediate change in me.
    And even until this day I still am. Life can be quite surprisingly funny that way...--Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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