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    Good luck.
    I am told spiritually that there are people in the Biden administration who want a major war. Likely so they will not get blamed when the economy collapse.
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    From the moment I heard mRNA was involved it was not for me. Then discovering the ingredients and watching various reactions solidified my decision to not vaccinate. I'm also lucky that I don't have any situations in my life where I'm required to have it ... i.e., job, visitation of elderly, etc.

    As I've mentioned before ... 3 of my doctors said my immune system, in conjunction with ivermectin or hydroxychlorocline, should take care of the virus if I became infected. After all, almost 99% of those infected recovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Like trump FDA signing off on it and practically the only thing about COVID he did right?
    Um, they didn't sign off on it. Approved for EUA, not formally approved as any other 'vaccine' would.

    This isn't even a vaccine by definition. It is MRNA gene therapy. Vaccines use isolated and weakened versions of viruses. This particular one does not because no one has ever actually been able to isolate the COVID-19 strain and keep it stable enough to work with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I don't know a huge amount myself, but was of the understanding that it was very helpful in oncology medications.
    Hard to be helpful in any situation when they stopped testing MRNA technology on most other situations because the testing animals kept dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitchenKitten99 View Post
    Hard to be helpful in any situation when they stopped testing MRNA technology on most other situations because the testing animals kept dying.
    Maybe in some situations but it's been long used in other areas and getting better. I certainly won't touch this particular vaccine (arguing either way) as it was in fact sped up and spit out, we we have to wait and find out. Not good there.

    But mrna has in fact been used since the 90's in other departments, including vaccines. But when not used for a particular virus/infection/ailment, then we are all kind of like guinea pigs since the trials weren't nearly as large and time consuming as it would normally be.

    But it has been used in oncology, it's helped get rid of diabetes symptoms... - and like I mentioned already, cancer things, allergy shots & parasite vaccines. So it's not like mrna technology just got started and we're the first. They've been working on it for 30+ years now. But with that said, it's still new, still used very little with success and the majority of it is still in testing phases.

    We'll unfortunately have to wait a few decades to see things in the bigger picture - but thus far the success rate looked at, or the negatives looked at, it's been very successful so far. The number of total people vaccinated in the USA is pretty much standard across the board. There are varying reports of amount of people that were killed after getting the vaccine. Using them from the lowest I could find to the highest, it's like .0017% to like .0029%. When you're that person or a family member or loved one, you don't want to hear any of that. But overall looking at the population to what we're seeing thus far, the numbers are beyond expectations.

    Nonetheless, I've had both Pfizer shots, and admittedly a tad nervous about anything developing down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitchenKitten99 View Post
    Um, they didn't sign off on it. Approved for EUA, not formally approved as any other 'vaccine' would.

    This isn't even a vaccine by definition. It is MRNA gene therapy. Vaccines use isolated and weakened versions of viruses. This particular one does not because no one has ever actually been able to isolate the COVID-19 strain and keep it stable enough to work with it.
    Uh yeah, they did. Emergency Use Authorization as you mentioned is them signing off on it. The formal approval process is ongoing. Pfizer has requested full approval.

    But call it what you will, rah, trump administration, rah! They actually got something right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    From the moment I heard mRNA was involved it was not for me. Then discovering the ingredients and watching various reactions solidified my decision to not vaccinate. I'm also lucky that I don't have any situations in my life where I'm required to have it ... i.e., job, visitation of elderly, etc.

    As I've mentioned before ... 3 of my doctors said my immune system, in conjunction with ivermectin or hydroxychlorocline, should take care of the virus if I became infected. After all, almost 99% of those infected recovered.
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    Here is my thing about it all. A bit over 99%recover i infected. But government is acting like 99% die. Which points to some kind of hidden agenda, imho.
    Such a massive overreaction causes suspicion and rightly so..[ Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Uh yeah, they did. Emergency Use Authorization as you mentioned is them signing off on it. The formal approval process is ongoing. Pfizer has requested full approval.

    But call it what you will, rah, trump administration, rah! They actually got something right.

    this is apt.

    fj likes the only thing trump got wrong.

    lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHZ View Post
    this is apt.

    fj likes the only thing trump got wrong.

    lmao.
    It's sad that you don't know what you're talking about. It did its job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It's sad that you don't know what you're talking about. It did its job.

    i never injected the dum dum sauce.

    or implemented it in trade policy.

    what draws you to stupidity?

    I'm just conducting a survey.
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