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    Default Some of the latest info on infections, deaths, vaccines & vaccine deaths and injuries

    At first glance, these numbers seem large, seem scary. And in fact, when discussing vaccine deaths, they are in fact rather large. But in the large scope of things "with that said" as you just really can't diminish it, even if the grand picture look like small numbers.

    As of the 7th of June, there were 5,208 deaths due to the vaccine
    As of the 7th of June, there were 23,359 "serious injuries" - some will debate of course all those injuries as to whether they are 'serious' or not, and it will often be judgmental.

    And as bad as that all may sound, and it is of course for any of them and their families, look at the percentages:

    Those deaths equate to 0.0017%. That is quite a low number when you base it on approximately 302 million doses of the vaccine given out. Of course the injuries will work out to be a slightly higher number.

    Then another follow-up on the virus stats, at least for the states that we were monitoring:

    33,453,275 US total cases

    3,801,408 cases
    California US
    63,185 deaths +4,155

    2,976,198 cases
    Texas US
    51,889 deaths +3,755

    2,344,321 cases
    Florida US
    37,265 deaths +4,018

    2,108,628 cases
    New York US
    53,539 deaths +3,381

    1,387,217 cases
    Illinois US
    25,469 deaths +1,942

    1,128,467 cases
    Georgia US
    21,158 deaths +2,196

    885,834 cases
    Arizona US
    17,740 deaths +822

    996,986 cases
    Michigan US
    20,778 deaths +3,722

    708,710 cases
    Massachusetts US
    17,937 deaths +807

    677,671 cases
    Virginia US
    11,293 deaths +1,074

    109,322 cases
    Delaware US
    1,679 deaths +127
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    As of the 7th of June, there were 5,208 deaths due to the vaccine
    I don't think that's right.

    "...
    VAERS did receive 4,178 reports of deaths (0.0017% of all who received the vaccine) between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 3, 2021. However, these reports don’t point to a causal relationship between receiving the vaccine and death.
    ...
    Missing context. There is no evidence that the deaths reported to VAERS after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine are caused by the vaccine. Healthcare providers are required to report any death after vaccination to VAERS.
    ..."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2MZ2H8
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think that's right.

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    VAERS did receive 4,178 reports of deaths (0.0017% of all who received the vaccine) between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 3, 2021. However, these reports don’t point to a causal relationship between receiving the vaccine and death.
    ...
    Missing context. There is no evidence that the deaths reported to VAERS after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine are caused by the vaccine. Healthcare providers are required to report any death after vaccination to VAERS.
    ..."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2MZ2H8
    Know how much time I spent on this? I started with the initial report, brought me to the CDC and the vaers.hhs.gov site and endless searching. Then like 100 sites and 200 or so article properly. Main reason being that the reports I was seeing were from an earlier period and I was trying to get the updated numbers through June. As you can see, I did in fact find them up to the first week of June.

    I was mistakenly under the impression that since it ended with .gov that in fact all of the information was updated and statistically correct.

    So I was suckered in via multiple sites and then sucked in with numbers based off of incorrect information. You should have told me this 2 days ago and saved me a couple of hours of search time ya filthy bastard!!
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    Jim, numbers are still being lied about.
    Do you think these filthy people suddenly decided to stop lying.
    First they lied to make the death number higher in order to instill far greater fear!
    Now they lie to make the death and injury numbers lower in order to get more people to take the shots.
    THESE DAMN PEOPLE=== NEVER SRTOP LYING === MY FRIEND...

    I TRUST THEM ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN PICK UP AND TOSS MY HOUSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Jim, numbers are still being lied about.
    Do you think these filthy people suddenly decided to stop lying.
    First they lied to make the death number higher in order to instill far greater fear!
    Now they lie to make the death and injury numbers lower in order to get more people to take the shots.
    THESE DAMN PEOPLE=== NEVER SRTOP LYING === MY FRIEND...

    I TRUST THEM ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN PICK UP AND TOSS MY HOUSE.
    That has --ALWAYS-- served me well...-Tyr
    I should have known better to an extent. Similar to other deaths listed as covid deaths when they clearly died from another cause. I dumbly thought it was accurate, and as FJ pointed out, it's not clear and the entries are off. No appropriate relationships with what was reported, out of context or missing context & the major one of 'no evidence' that these deaths were from the vaccine. In other words, inaccurate numbers.'

    And this is put out there by a government website and information fed from the CDC.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    ... ya filthy bastard!!
    All I can do is straight up apologize and ask forgiveness. I can't say it won't happen again but...
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    I had my second dose of Moderna Monday. I feel fine, here's my photo-no side effects:


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