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    Default First Autopsy of Vaccinated person Found to Contain Spike Proteins in every organ

    First Autopsy of Dead Person Vaccinated for Covid Found to Contain Spike Proteins in Every Organ of Body

    Poison in every organ . From the Spike Protein that we were told would not move from the jab spot .

    Researchers from Germany conducted the world’s first-ever postmortem study on a corpse that had been vaccinated against Covid-19 prior to their death. They discovered that every single organ of the deceased person’s body had become infested with spike proteins as a result of the vaccine.
    The German scientific report titled “First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2”, which was published in June 2021, examined the autopsy of an 86-year-old man who had received a single dose of the Covid-19 vaccine but died a month later after becoming infected with Coronavirus by a nearby patient at a hospital.
    According to the report, the man had a medical history including systemic arterial hypertension, chronic venous insufficiency, dementia, and prostate carcinoma.
    The report, which was published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, states that on January 9th, 20201, “the man receivedlipid nanoparticle-formulated, nucleoside-modified RNA vaccine BNT162b2 in a 30 μg dose.” Just 18 days after his dose of the vaccine, the man was admitted to the hospital for worsening diarrhea, where an “antigen test and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for SARS-CoV-2 were negative.”
    However, by day 25, the vaccinated patient tested positive for Covid-19, presumably from a nearby Covid-infected patient in the hospital, and he, unfortunately, died of kidney and respiratory failure the following day.
    According to the report, researchers found that the patient’s entire body had become overrun with high viral RNA loads, also known as vaccine-induced spike proteins.
    The study concluded: “In summary, the results of our autopsy case study in a patient with mRNA vaccine confirm the view that by first dose of vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 immunogenicity can already be induced, while sterile immunity is not adequately developed.”
    In other words, whilst the Covid-19 vaccine triggered an immune response within the body, it did not seem to stop the spread of the virus throughout the body or the spike proteins that caused his organs to fail.
    This bombshell study only confirms worst fears that the Covid vaccine causes more harm than good, and may actually even accelerate the spread of the virus.

    Start praying if you have been poison jabbed .


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    I don't think that says what you think it says.

    The conclusions reached in the article don't seem to be supported by the study itself. A clarification from one of the authors of the study based on apparent misinformation from another source.

    [QUOTE]“Our patient, though being positive for SARS CoV2 did not die from COVID19,” he said, noting that Turner’s post incorrectly used the term COVID-19 to refer to both the virus and the disease. “We suggest immune response due to vaccination was able to prevent COVID19.”Hansen made three other points:

    • He said Turner “completely ignored” that the patient only received his first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, and “it is well known that immunogenicity against SARS CoV2 is fully established not before two weeks after the second vaccination.”
    • He said it is “simply wrong” that viral RNA was “found in every organ” of the patient’s body, as Turner’s post said multiple times. Hansen and his coauthors only analyzed nine organs known as pathways for viral spreading and detected virus in seven of them.
    • Finally, Hansen said the results of the autopsy case study have to be interpreted carefully because the case report is about a single patient — which makes it difficult to draw general conclusions about the vaccines. /QUOTE]

    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/sc...cov-2-patient/
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think that says what you think it says.

    The conclusions reached in the article don't seem to be supported by the study itself. A clarification from one of the authors of the study based on apparent misinformation from another source.


    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/sc...cov-2-patient/

    Sad to say but Fact Checkers are about as reliable and honest as Wikipedia -- which means that they are not . It's a pseudo science along the lines of so called Opinion Polls which you can manipulate at will . And they do . All the time .To even think otherwise these days is plain naive and actually criminally negligent . Example , the Fakebook Fact Checker Manager who had previously worked for the CCP , is the most absurd I know of .

    The very fact that no autopsies are encouraged tells you everything that a good detective needs to know . The following quote says it all . An unbelievable situation .



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    A leading member of an American association for medical professionals says she’s shocked that not only are there no autopsies being performed on COVID-19 vaccine-associated deaths, but that government agencies such as the CDC, FDA, and HHS do not require them.
    Dr. Jane Orient, Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, made the statements in a July 7 article published on the WND website, voicing her concerns that of the more than 9,000 COVID-19 vaccine deaths reported to VAERS, she has seen reports of only a single autopsy. END QUOTE


    If you imagine that the establishment are going to allow the narrative they have so carefully built over 18 months to disappear in a puff of smoke , then you live in dream land .

    Perhaps you should weigh those invented criticisms against the information contained in a tweet from a German Director of Pathology who oversaw more than 40 autopsies and concluded up to 40% had died from vaccine reactions .

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    "Personally vaxed Dir of Path Inst in Heidelberg conducts autopsies of C19 vax related deaths & warns of under reported deaths based on > 40 people autopsied who died within 2wks of being vaxed, claiming ----30 to 40% of them died from the vaccination ." END QUOTE

    Ask yourself the one blindingly obvious question :
    Why would you go out of your way to prevent any autopsies of tens of thousands of people who have died from an alleged novel corona virus ?
    IT IS BEYOND BELIEF AND JUST SWEPT UNDERNEATH THE CARPET , hidden by COMPLIANCE GULLIBLES and those who dare not speak out because they would lose
    their jobs , careers , families and reputations .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    Sad to say but Fact Checkers are about as reliable and honest as Wikipedia -- which means that they are not . It's a pseudo science along the lines of so called Opinion Polls which you can manipulate at will . And they do . All the time .To even think otherwise these days is plain naive and actually criminally negligent . Example , the Fakebook Fact Checker Manager who had previously worked for the CCP , is the most absurd I know of .

    The very fact that no autopsies are encouraged tells you everything that a good detective needs to know . The following quote says it all . An unbelievable situation .



    QUOTE

    A leading member of an American association for medical professionals says she’s shocked that not only are there no autopsies being performed on COVID-19 vaccine-associated deaths, but that government agencies such as the CDC, FDA, and HHS do not require them.
    Dr. Jane Orient, Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, made the statements in a July 7 article published on the WND website, voicing her concerns that of the more than 9,000 COVID-19 vaccine deaths reported to VAERS, she has seen reports of only a single autopsy. END QUOTE


    If you imagine that the establishment are going to allow the narrative they have so carefully built over 18 months to disappear in a puff of smoke , then you live in dream land .

    Perhaps you should weigh those invented criticisms against the information contained in a tweet from a German Director of Pathology who oversaw more than 40 autopsies and concluded up to 40% had died from vaccine reactions .

    QUOTE
    "Personally vaxed Dir of Path Inst in Heidelberg conducts autopsies of C19 vax related deaths & warns of under reported deaths based on > 40 people autopsied who died within 2wks of being vaxed, claiming ----30 to 40% of them died from the vaccination ." END QUOTE

    Ask yourself the one blindingly obvious question :
    Why would you go out of your way to prevent any autopsies of tens of thousands of people who have died from an alleged novel corona virus ?
    IT IS BEYOND BELIEF AND JUST SWEPT UNDERNEATH THE CARPET , hidden by COMPLIANCE GULLIBLES and those who dare not speak out because they would lose
    their jobs , careers , families and reputations .
    I kind of figured you might have something against factcheck.org which is why I limited the quoting to one of the authors. I still didn't think you'd like it.

    I look forward to more studies. Maybe one of them will actually mean what you think it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I kind of figured you might have something against factcheck.org which is why I limited the quoting to one of the authors. I still didn't think you'd like it.

    I look forward to more studies. Maybe one of them will actually mean what you think it means.

    It is naivety to believe in the honesty of Fact Checkers when political matters are involved .Unless you are a Compliance Gullible .

    Opinion Pollsters are ridiculed because they are owned by the Corporations and the dying Legacy Media .Do you really believe that the handful of people

    who own 90%+ of all of the old style media would allow a few uncomfortable facts to destroy their political narratives ?

    CNN have even drifted into new territory and no longer even try to report facts . Which is why they are bankrupt and soon to be gone .The rest

    hanging on, but all in a death spiral .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    It is naivety to believe in the honesty of Fact Checkers when political matters are involved .Unless you are a Compliance Gullible .

    Opinion Pollsters are ridiculed because they are owned by the Corporations and the dying Legacy Media .Do you really believe that the handful of people

    who own 90%+ of all of the old style media would allow a few uncomfortable facts to destroy their political narratives ?

    CNN have even drifted into new territory and no longer even try to report facts . Which is why they are bankrupt and soon to be gone .The rest

    hanging on, but all in a death spiral .
    You're kind of all over the map. You complain about media yet post links from media. You didn't post the study and make your own conclusions, you posted some media link and espoused those conclusions and proceed to demean anyone who doesn't agree with whatever your take is. I posted something from an author of the study yet you don't even take the time to dispute his clarification. The above post doesn't really add anything to the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You're kind of all over the map. You complain about media yet post links from media. You didn't post the study and make your own conclusions, you posted some media link and espoused those conclusions and proceed to demean anyone who doesn't agree with whatever your take is. I posted something from an author of the study yet you don't even take the time to dispute his clarification. The above post doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

    I did not post anything from an MSM source .Big mistake .
    As an aside , I stopped reading UK MSM over a decade ago and refuse point blank to ever watch BBC when they reference politics and economics .In those areas it is a propaganda junk machine under Intelligence Agencies direction .At least in the view of more and more discerning professional analysts .

    The only work that should be followed these days is independent high quality investigative reporting which has stood the test of time in terms of quality , reliability and accuracy .That is no longer available anywhere in the MSM and least of all in the US , for example , where over 90% of all legacy news sources are controlled literally by a handful of people .

    So , in my Post which you so desperately want to ignore/ rubbish , I quote two international respected scientists verbatim .

    Again , as an aside , not two Fake News outlets, like WaPo or NYT as examples , who invariably just take agency releases which have been Intelligence Agency edited and then regurgitated using by-lines purporting to come from investigative reporters.

    What you have done , for example , is to arbitrarily decide to rub out the evidence fromDr. Jane Orient, Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons on your personal whim .

    Not good enough .
    What you need to do to make your case is to find a few dead bodies , conduct autopsies and show that Spike Proteins are not distributedaround the body and brain and are indeed confined to the jab area .

    That is, prove the reviewed Japanese bio - distribution studies are mistaken .

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    ^I didn't say MSM, I said media. You posted from media and any problem from media stems from bias. You've just chosen bias from another side.

    I also posted from a scientist, an actual scientist from a study you posted. FWIW I did't arbitrarily do anything especially rub out evidence but what i see from you is trying to pick around the edges of actual science and claim that's where the truth lives.

    Your're currently not winning your case with me.
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    It’s amazing how virulent some folks’ attitude is towards the virus and vaccines. Pun intended.
    The result is it all seems like too much and too conspiracy-driven, and I now just avoid reading the anti-vax stories.
    I know I’m not alone, and people on such crusades should realize this is what they are doing. But they never do, do they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    It’s amazing how virulent some folks’ attitude is towards the virus and vaccines. Pun intended.
    The result is it all seems like too much and too conspiracy-driven, and I now just avoid reading the anti-vax stories.
    I know I’m not alone, and people on such crusades should realize this is what they are doing. But they never do, do they?
    When I'm with my white blue friends and anti-vax comes up it's always, "grrr, Republicans..." And when I'm with my black blue friends their families aren't getting vaccinated because they read social media. Everything is so politicized these days and everyone chooses their own narrative.

    ...

    Of course this is nothing we don't already know.
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    I have never seen someone write so much, get so much wrong & then run with garbage as if it's gospel.

    I have many many issues with this entire covid-19 virus, the politicians lying & some thinking they are doctors, and the doctors thinking they are politicians. But some like to find what best fits their narrative and running with it full speed, glaringly incorrect or not.

    Why I always said I'll hit 90 sites around the world for the truth. And some like to run with BS, and the truth of things matters little to them.

    Fact is, yes, many have still got the virus after getting the vaccine, and many passing it to others. But overall, the dying numbers on that side have dropped. And those that choose not to get vaccinated also continue to get sick and pass things around, and many still dying. Hospitals and deaths are unfortunately picking up speed again. Some want to spread the word that folks that chose to get vaccinated are now all dying off, or they will be dead soon. Simply not the case.

    And no matter where you get the information from, no site will be good enough, come with the opposite opinion or facts and they are liars.

    I have the utmost respect for folks like Tyr, Sassy and others who have chosen not to get vaccinated for their own personal and logical reasons. Just as others have gotten vaccinated for their own personal reasons. But hardly means one or the other is full of shit or idiots. Everyone is in a different position and age and different ailments and such.

    One will tell you that the BBC is the shit and as good as gold, if others remember. But one of a differing opinion will say they are shit. Amazing how that works and folks find sites and information to support whatever the incorrect position is of that day.

    And yes, that map is upside down, flipped left to right, has some sharpie written information.... Some just rewrite the map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I kind of figured you might have something against factcheck.org which is why I limited the quoting to one of the authors. I still didn't think you'd like it.

    I look forward to more studies. Maybe one of them will actually mean what you think it means.
    When someone shoots down your factcheck or wiki or whatever site you use to slap down their bullshit - then demand they show exactly what is incorrect. Folks like such usually then just ramble about sites and lies but then are unable to show the specifics of what is a lie or incorrect as they say. Easy to deny such information or sites when you just rant or deny and avoid facts.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    That is, prove the reviewed Japanese bio - distribution studies are mistaken .
    The second source Bridle cited during his interview is a "biodistribution study" obtained from the Japanese Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency. He said the study shows how the coronavirus spike protein circulates in the bloodstream of vaccinated individuals and accumulates in their organs.Pfizer told USA TODAY the document, which is in Japanese, doesn't back up Bridle's claims.
    "The document is a real (common technical document), though it’s not leaked – it’s part of the submission data applied by Pfizer to PMDA (Japan’s version of FDA) for its review," Kit Longley, senior manager of science media relations, said in an email. "The document is about the pharmacokinetics overview seen from lab studies and we can confirm it’s not about spike proteins from the vaccine resulting in dangerous toxins that linger in the body."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/7505236002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    When someone shoots down your factcheck or wiki or whatever site you use to slap down their bullshit - then demand they show exactly what is incorrect. Folks like such usually then just ramble about sites and lies but then are unable to show the specifics of what is a lie or incorrect as they say. Easy to deny such information or sites when you just rant or deny and avoid facts.
    Yup. It's fun when they demand DYOR and then when you do you still think they're loony toons and now with proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    It’s amazing how virulent some folks’ attitude is towards the virus and vaccines. Pun intended.
    The result is it all seems like too much and too conspiracy-driven, and I now just avoid reading the anti-vax stories.
    I know I’m not alone, and people on such crusades should realize this is what they are doing. But they never do, do they?
    I know this comes as a shock, but I put my Marine brain into gear.

    The FIRST, most important part of the issue is that a potentially deadly virus exists, and is hospitalizing/killing people. That's not political. That's statistical fact. Arguing percentages of statistics is wasting my time. Enough people have dropped dead that it is a threat.

    Everything else is SECOND. Politics, personal beliefs, fairy tales ... what the f- ever. Nothing can be done to stop ANY of the preceding and/or more if you are dead.

    Kill/stop the virus. While I have no doubt someone in this day and age and current society will find a way, kill/contain/control the virus, there's nothing to discuss.

    This argument exists because there are those whose agenda is to divide and deflect, not give a rat's ass about the virus. The people driving this discussion train will just find another "Earth-shattering calamity" to go all Chicken Little on.

    Gunny's copy of the Jimbob disclaimer: This isn't about people and their choices. It's about the bullshit smokescreen surrounding the issue.
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