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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Zero hard, provable evidence exists. If admitting that trump lost is "wokeness" to some then we should plan on muffing another round of elections.
    The best evidence of voter fraud is look how hard the Dems/left are trying to defend it. I agree there is no hard evidence to prove it, and no one is going to remove Biden from office and install Trump. Time to move on.

    Voter accountability would certainly do a lot to discourage/uncover voter fraud. What is it the Dems are fighting tooth and nail to stop? Voter accountability. One doesn't really have to guess why. The writing's on the wall.

    Texas Dems are in DC over what? Voter accountability. To put it in perspective, they signed off on: a heartbeat = life in locking down abortion. They stayed for open carry of firearms. They stayed for the no mask/no vaccine mandate. They signed off on Abbott's Border policy. What did they run off on? Ensuring only eligible persons can vote.

    The two biggest issues we face besides the Dems bankrupting the US on shit that doesn't work, that will have the most impact on us as a Nation going forward is illegal immigration and voter accountability. What's everyone arguing about? Stupid masks and shots.

    Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Time to move on.
    BAM!!!

    Any issues that there may have been and Republican legislatures and governors are passing laws to tighten up the voting process. Let the process work rather than stupid litmus tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    BAM!!!

    Any issues that there may have been and Republican legislatures and governors are passing laws to tighten up the voting process. Let the process work rather than stupid litmus tests.



    Yup `enough said`...."Time to move on"...and see what happens... action and results is what matters...enough talk...Lets see how it works out for Larry...and then "we" all will know...


    Ok boys and girls...next Juicy topic...



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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    ......His poll numbers are about to plummet! He can't hold up under pressure....
    I have to disagree, LTG. I think that if you are running for Governor of California you cannot release a quote saying that you think the 2020 election was stolen. And at this point there really isn't much point making stolen election claims; the cost is not worth the benefit - if there is any benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    I have to disagree, LTG. I think that if you are running for Governor of California you cannot release a quote saying that you think the 2020 election was stolen. And at this point there really isn't much point making stolen election claims; the cost is not worth the benefit - if there is any benefit.
    Why should he win based on a lie..and run on a lie saying its all good...and "Biden won far & square"

    ...The American people have seen.what happened.. whats going on and whats happening NOW...Larry cant appease Cali...otherwise nothing will change...The way I look at it Russ...lets see what happens (like I mentioned above)...What ever is meant to be WILL Be...IMO...



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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    BAM!!!

    Any issues that there may have been and Republican legislatures and governors are passing laws to tighten up the voting process. Let the process work rather than stupid litmus tests.
    Which is what leftists want us to do. Here in Arizona the leftists are fighting tooth and nail to not hand over evidence for the audit. Now, why would they do that? They've done everything in their power to run out the time so people will "move on" rather than just standing up and saying "Here's the evidence to prove there was no fraud."

    There's plenty of evidence of fraud. Proving it exists will help put in place controls from that particular type of fraud from happening again. If you think getting voter ID in place will stop the fraud then you have no idea the depth of the fraud.

    And telling people to move on will not stop the fraud or the debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Which is what leftists want us to do. Here in Arizona the leftists are fighting tooth and nail to not hand over evidence for the audit. Now, why would they do that? They've done everything in their power to run out the time so people will "move on" rather than just standing up and saying "Here's the evidence to prove there was no fraud."

    There's plenty of evidence of fraud. Proving it exists will help put in place controls from that particular type of fraud from happening again. If you think getting voter ID in place will stop the fraud then you have no idea the depth of the fraud.

    And telling people to move on will not stop the fraud or the debate.
    I'm not sure what you're saying given what I posted. They don't want any changes and various states are working on election rules. I'm sure the left wants Republicans to have hard-line litmus tests because it makes it easy to eliminate some candidates if they go against the herd.

    As far as AZ I don't think I've heard much positive coming out of whatever audit that they've done over there. Each side harps on their version of news and unless rules are changed to avoid whatever the problem is/was then nothing will change. Want real change? Win an election and stop dividing over the man-child's precious ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Which is what leftists want us to do. Here in Arizona the leftists are fighting tooth and nail to not hand over evidence for the audit. Now, why would they do that? They've done everything in their power to run out the time so people will "move on" rather than just standing up and saying "Here's the evidence to prove there was no fraud."

    There's plenty of evidence of fraud. Proving it exists will help put in place controls from that particular type of fraud from happening again. If you think getting voter ID in place will stop the fraud then you have no idea the depth of the fraud.

    And telling people to move on will not stop the fraud or the debate.
    Good points. At the same time, stalling out focusing on one issue and ignoring the rest is exactly what the Dems want. Sure they "protest". They'd love nothing better than to keep everyone focused on Arizona voter fraud.

    By all means continue the investigation. But time isn't going to stand still while it's being done, The left has people stuck on its deflections while its planning its next crime.

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    Are there really people here questioning Elder after seeing an out-of-context quote? Are we really that low-brow? that busch-league to do so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Are there really people here questioning Elder after seeing an out-of-context quote? Are we really that low-brow? that busch-league to do so?


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    >>>..Yes darin... I for one seen the video along with many followers...and Thousands of other Patriots...

    Like I said above over & over again..lets see what happens and let the people decide and we can all move on...


    "Either he was lying to get elected...or he was saying what he honestly thinks.

    Neither possibility is very appealing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not sure what you're saying given what I posted. They don't want any changes and various states are working on election rules. I'm sure the left wants Republicans to have hard-line litmus tests because it makes it easy to eliminate some candidates if they go against the herd.

    As far as AZ I don't think I've heard much positive coming out of whatever audit that they've done over there. Each side harps on their version of news and unless rules are changed to avoid whatever the problem is/was then nothing will change. Want real change? Win an election and stop dividing over the man-child's precious ego.
    For context....your "BAM" wanting everyone to move on is what prompted my statement.

    I've heard a lot of positive coming out of our Legislature and the audit. They found fraud and they're not moving on just because some leftists are trying to run out the clock. And media iscensoring what's really going on by only covering the leftist viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    For context....your "BAM" wanting everyone to move on is what prompted my statement.

    I've heard a lot of positive coming out of our Legislature and the audit. They found fraud and they're not moving on just because some leftists are trying to run out the clock. And media iscensoring what's really going on by only covering the leftist viewpoint.
    Good to hear I hope they clean it up. Any fraud they found isn't going to change the results however and is no reason to not vote for Larry Elder in CA.

    That also seems to be exactly what Elder said about shenanigans too.
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