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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    People are choosing the facts that they prefer.
    Yes, some are.
    And some are deliberately ignoring and trying to hide facts they don't like.
    And some folks have a hard time believing the facts unless it comes through "approved" or "official" bodies.
    they don't believe the evidence until someone tells them it's ok to do so.
    Last edited by revelarts; 09-01-2021 at 03:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Yes, some are.
    And some are deliberately ignoring and trying to hide facts they don't like.
    And some folks have a hard time believing the facts unless it comes through "approved" or "official" bodies.
    they don't believe the evidence until someone tells them it's ok to do so.
    I don’t know what to think anymore about the vaccines. All I know for certain, is no one is certain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    I don’t know what to think anymore about the vaccines. All I know for certain, is no one is certain.
    It's an ONGOING experiment.
    New information comes out all the time. We'll be hearing new things about the vaccines effects for decades... if they don't hide it.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    West Virginia governor briefing on August 23rd.

    Charleston, WV — West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice shared alarming news in his COVID-19 press briefing on August 23, 2021. And while the small state’s local news is barely a blip on the radar of larger networks, the contents should alarm vaccine advocates everywhere.


    During the first weeks of the vaccine rollout, West Virginia won gold stars from experts everywhere for its commendable vaccination rate which nearly doubled the national rate. Programs targeting the elderly and at-risk populations were going above and beyond the call of duty. And for younger populations in the state which suffers from poverty and rampant drug use, the vaccine incentives were particularly effective.


    However, as vaccines became more readily available and the gentle nudges became all-out shoves, vaccine rates have leveled off. Currently, they stand at 46% of residents having received at least one dose and 39% being fully vaccinated.


    Going back to Gov. Justice’s remarks in his briefing, he expressed extreme concern for the latest rates of infection and COVID related deaths stating,



    “Also, over the last eight weeks, health officials have seen a 26% increase in cases among fully vaccinated residents, a 21% increase, among the vaccinated, in cases requiring hospitalizations and a 25% increase in deaths among those who have gotten their shots.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I think it's more the tribal narratives are solidifying behind each other's walls.

    Nice to have people writing where English is not their first language .Joining in is great .

    However , this one is more tricky to decipher than usual .

    What does this phrase , tribal narratives , allude to ? Any examples ?

    Which walls ? Where ? Whose ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    People are choosing the facts that they prefer.
    There's a lot of that. Both sides refuse to hear anything others say or do if they are not in 100% agreement. The dems do not have one guy they really back; moreover bits and pieces of some socialism and communism and even plain old anarchy. Bernie's plan is pretty popular, but only until those in their 30s and younger realize student debts are not going away and taxes will be increasing sharply.

    The right crowd is all behind Trump or seek those emulating his style. Whether or not every single thing is right or good for the country. I've only looked at a couple of threads but will be surprised if there's not a f@#!@McConnell for saying voting, not impeachment is the remedy for incompetence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    There's a lot of that. Both sides refuse to hear anything others say or do if they are not in 100% agreement. The dems do not have one guy they really back; moreover bits and pieces of some socialism and communism and even plain old anarchy. Bernie's plan is pretty popular, but only until those in their 30s and younger realize student debts are not going away and taxes will be increasing sharply.

    The right crowd is all behind Trump or seek those emulating his style. Whether or not every single thing is right or good for the country. I've only looked at a couple of threads but will be surprised if there's not a f@#!@McConnell for saying voting, not impeachment is the remedy for incompetence.

    ....Lets see how that works...Lets use an example to clear things up. Ok?

    *One side likes Lincoln....and One side likes and prefers Hitler for an example...

    Hmm..lets see...How can we differentiate that....? Two words?

    Common sense...?? ...But..then both sides will say they both have common sense...


    .....so then what do we do to see who is right and who is wrong...?

    Can it be which side has produced more "Good" in general....and the other side has not...?

    so..were back to common sense...??

    ...So..it all boils down to voting and elections ...if they are kept kept clean..and the dead stay dead...

    Just an Opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    There's a lot of that. Both sides refuse to hear anything others say or do if they are not in 100% agreement. The dems do not have one guy they really back; moreover bits and pieces of some socialism and communism and even plain old anarchy. Bernie's plan is pretty popular, but only until those in their 30s and younger realize student debts are not going away and taxes will be increasing sharply.

    The right crowd is all behind Trump or seek those emulating his style. Whether or not every single thing is right or good for the country. I've only looked at a couple of threads but will be surprised if there's not a f@#!@McConnell for saying voting, not impeachment is the remedy for incompetence.
    Sad and true.
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    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


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