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    Default ".....Ask for COVID vaccine proof, face a $5,000 fine in Florida"



    "Florida will start issuing $5,000 fines to businesses, schools and government agencies that require people to show proof of a COVID-19 vaccination.
    Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill earlier this year that banned vaccine passports."




    https://www.local10.com/news/florida...content=wplg10



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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post


    "Florida will start issuing $5,000 fines to businesses, schools and government agencies that require people to show proof of a COVID-19 vaccination.
    Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill earlier this year that banned vaccine passports."




    https://www.local10.com/news/florida...content=wplg10
    Finally some much needed action against this Nazi push by the treasonous dem/lib/leftist led Feds....===

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post

    "Florida will start issuing $5,000 fines to businesses, ... that require people to show proof of a COVID-19 vaccination.
    Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill earlier this year that banned vaccine passports."
    I'm sure the businesses part at the very least won't stand up. Property rights and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm sure the businesses part at the very least won't stand up. Property rights and all.

    Im sure we will see..



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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm sure the businesses part at the very least won't stand up. Property rights and all.
    Property rights?
    Ok So Are customers or employees "property?"
    you got to do better than that.
    What law or right give any business the power to demand someone take medications FJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Property rights?
    Ok So Are customers or employees "property?"
    you got to do better than that.
    What law or right give any business the power to demand someone take medications FJ?
    What law says owners/employers can't protect their work environment and employees as they see fit?

    The problem I see is those pushing so damned hard against this are going to force the government to choose, and we already know which way they go. So all you fighting for your "Right" to do whatever the Hell you want to society so long as it suits you are going to be THE reason it gets turned into law.

    And yes, that IS what it amounts to: placing your individual "Rights" over the collective Rights of the people to be protected by the government.

    I would just as soon it not get pushed that far that it becomes law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    What law says owners/employers can't protect their work environment and employees as they see fit?
    The problem I see is those pushing so damned hard against this are going to force the government to choose, and we already know which way they go. So all you fighting for your "Right" to do whatever the Hell you want to society so long as it suits you are going to be THE reason it gets turned into law.
    And yes, that IS what it amounts to: placing your individual "Rights" over the collective Rights of the people to be protected by the government.
    I would just as soon it not get pushed that far that it becomes law.
    "...And yes, that IS what it amounts to: placing your individual "Rights" over the collective Rights of the people to be protected by the government...."
    Isn't that exactly the same rational those use that want to take people's guns?
    So, Are gun rights the only ones we should speak up about?
    Or should we just allow whatever the government and corporations decide because the Government/Big Biz are gonna win anyway since some people are afraid?
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    Hey .. if a business wants to ask for covid Vax card they should also ask to see all the other vaccines we've taken. Why just this one?

    And, will that lead to the vaccinated demanding to see staff Vax cards? What ever happened to HIPPA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "...And yes, that IS what it amounts to: placing your individual "Rights" over the collective Rights of the people to be protected by the government...."
    Isn't that exactly the same rational those use that want to take people's guns?
    So, Are gun rights the only ones we should speak up about?
    Or should we just allow whatever the government and corporations decide because the Government/Big Biz are gonna win anyway since some people are afraid?
    Never mind. This is just going to start a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Hey .. if a business wants to ask for covid Vax card they should also ask to see all the other vaccines we've taken. Why just this one?

    And, will that lead to the vaccinated demanding to see staff Vax cards? What ever happened to HIPPA?

    Agree Sassy..but why stop there...

    ...ask if someone is gay..ask if they have a criminal record...ask if they ever had a DUI...ask what political party one belongs to...etc..etc...

    It could go on and on...Good for FLA!! Stop it now...



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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    Agree Sassy..but why stop there...

    ...ask if someone is gay..ask if they have a criminal record...ask if they ever had a DUI...ask what political party one belongs to...etc..etc...

    It could go on and on...Good for FLA!! Stop it now...
    Ask if they are legal citizens registered to vote

    Y'll can have this thread. As I stated above, this is just going to start a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Ask if they are legal citizens registered to vote

    Y'll can have this thread. As I stated above, this is just going to start a fight.


    True...^^^

    ...and...Legal citizens had a lot of their votes Thrown in the garbage last election...


    the left wont stop fighting..neither should we...relax Gunny all is well...we love ya buddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "...And yes, that IS what it amounts to: placing your individual "Rights" over the collective Rights of the people to be protected by the government...."
    Isn't that exactly the same rational those use that want to take people's guns?
    So, Are gun rights the only ones we should speak up about?
    Or should we just allow whatever the government and corporations decide because the Government/Big Biz are gonna win anyway since some people are afraid?
    Yeah I hope I am not too late to the party. But should employers be allowed to demand access to my health records? I feel that a Vax card would fall under that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Never mind. This is just going to start a fight.
    How? (hands out shaking my head shrugging)

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