".....Ask for COVID vaccine proof, face a $5,000 fine in Florida"

[fj1200]

City of Tucson fined businesses and employees of that business $50 or community service if they let people in without a mask. Fine is for each person.

So, government can fine a business for non compliance of an ordinance.

I truthfully thought each business should be allowed to make that decision and the customers that wanted to use that business.

I'm not a fan of those asking for Vax cards but also not a fan of fining those that do ask. As I said earlier that decision should be a business decision. Customers will support or not support with their feet.

I'd probably say it's more enforceable to require businesses to require masks because they're likely already being required to be licensed in the first place. But either way an encroachment on property rights.

Yes they can. However, being forced to is different.

You're not forced to go into a place of business.

[icansayit]

They start with government telling businesses WHAT they must do to allow customers in.
Next. The government decides WHO can go into the business in the first place.
Next. The government tells those who go into the business WHAT they are able to do.
Eventually. The government gets so much power over the business. They tell the Businesses WHAT they are permitted to sell, or deal with.

And finally. Government takes FULL control over the businesses and more than TAXES them OUT OF BUSINESS In order to take FULL CONTROL....Just like the MAFIA did in the 1920's, 30's, 40's and even today.

That is the ULTIMATE GOAL OF WASHINGTON D.C. RADICAL POLITICIANS who stand to PROFIT from SOCIALIST CONTROL.

[SassyLady]

I'd probably say it's more enforceable to require businesses to require masks because they're likely already being required to be licensed in the first place. But either way an encroachment on property rights.



You're not forced to go into a place of business.

Unless government forces all businesses to require Vax passports with threat of fines... then one cannot function normally. There will be no alternative business to turn to.

That is limitation on capitalism and individual rights.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The cowardice with which you debate is showing up again.

I'd happily meet you anywhere any time to discuss the true definition of the word-- cowardice.
As it is so damn blazingly obvious that you have not a clue.
Myself, I have over a 50 year run of proving that word never applies to me...(and dozens of witnesses)...
But you- well I have first hand account by somebody that had the displeasure of riding with you, about what a weasel and punk you were and are.
And that guy would not lie about it....
So blow smoke all you want idiot- punks usually do....--Tyr

[fj1200]

Unless government forces all businesses to require Vax passports with threat of fines... then one cannot function normally. There will be no alternative business to turn to.

That is limitation on capitalism and individual rights.

I'm not quite sure where we disagree. If a business wants to require a vax card then they are within their rights. If government wants to force business to require particular actions then it is a limitation on individual rights.

[fj1200]

I'd happily meet you anywhere any time to discuss the true definition of the word-- cowardice.
As it is so damn blazingly obvious that you have not a clue.
Myself, I have over a 50 year run of proving that word never applies to me...(and dozens of witnesses)...
But you- well I have first hand account by somebody that had the displeasure of riding with you, about what a weasel and punk you were and are.
And that guy would not lie about it....
So blow smoke all you want idiot- punks usually do....--Tyr

I repeat; I can virtually guarantee that I've not ridden with anyone that you know. The rest of your story just isn't even believable.

And you debate like a coward. You rant with the best of them but those are two different things.

[LongTermGuy]

I repeat; I can virtually guarantee that I've not ridden with anyone that you know. The rest of your story just isn't even believable.

And you debate like a coward. You rant with the best of them but those are two different things.

Hey fj...stop folling me ..Ignore my threads...and stop arguing with folks on my threads...Like Sassy says..go post some of your own threads you can argue there...Your a piece of crap...and fuck you !

[fj1200]

Hey fj...

Chill dude. Other than my first post here I don't think I quoted you. Others took issue with whatever I said so the discussion grew from there. It's how forums work.

[JakeStarkey]

The courts will an end to legislative tyranny immediately.

[LongTermGuy]

The courts will an end to legislative tyranny immediately.

We will see......

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Hey fj...stop folling me ..Ignore my threads...and stop arguing with folks on my threads...Like Sassy says..go post some of your own threads you can argue there...Your a piece of crap...and fuck you !

Careful now my friend or else the blithering fool will give you one of his famous " almost -virtual guarantees"..!!!!--

Like the chump did me....--Tyr

""I repeat; I can virtually guarantee that I've not ridden with anyone that you know. The rest of your story just isn't even believable.""

[fj1200]

Careful now my friend or else the blithering fool will give you one of his famous " almost -virtual guarantees"..!!!!--

Like the chump did me....--Tyr

I only keep open the possibility that by some strange coincidence I did ride with someone you know... The rest of your story is fiction though.

Besides your friend was understandably upset because of my post in another thread for which I apologized. Hopefully he'll accept it.

[LongTermGuy]

Careful now my friend or else the blithering fool will give you one of his famous " almost -virtual guarantees"..!!!!--

Like the chump did me....--Tyr

No worries...

But..I see he is still posting here...

[SassyLady]

Follow up on Tucson vax mandates

https://breaking911.com/arizona-ag-s...ions-in-funds/

[icansayit]

No worries...

But..I see he is still posting here...

How INEFFECTIVE constant BLITHERING can be. Reminds me of something someone once said about..."The definition of insanity????"