I had no idea

[SassyLady]

I correlated things that kill people. I thought that was our concern. Do you know how many died of COVID in 2019? Somewhere between 0 and 10 (taking a guess). Most TB deaths are in third world countries; COVID doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.

My whole point is that the world is hysterical about covid. They should put it perspective with other contagious disease instead of being paralyzed by fear porn.

[fj1200]

•••sarcasm alert••
Not a scary graph!!!?!?!?! 1st of all That so-called graph doesn't mean what you think it means!!
one thing that is does mean is UR obviously selfish. ignorant. tribal. misinformationist. and u love Trump. conspiracy nut.
Drink some bleach and die ydontcha?
You're not a loving caring person like the rest of us. Who trust the science and obey government.

Seems to me more Lockdowns, triple mask and several rounds of mandated TB vaccines are in order. to slow the spread.
And those that don't agree should not have jobs or be able to walk the street or have custody of children.
it's the only way to save lives.

Seems the fact that we're not doing those things proves something about what we are doing about another health concern that's been in the news lately.

[fj1200]

My whole point is that the world is hysterical about covid. They should put it perspective with other contagious disease instead of being paralyzed by fear porn.

One of those things is not like the others.

[SassyLady]

I correlated things that kill people. I thought that was our concern. Do you know how many died of COVID in 2019? Somewhere between 0 and 10 (taking a guess). Most TB deaths are in third world countries; COVID doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.

As I said previously .. it's not about all types of death. It's about TB being just as dangerous as covid, per numbers, and yet there's no worldwide pandemic hysteria attached. Just because it's in 3rd world countries does not mean it can't be found in 1st and 2nd world countries.

[SassyLady]

One of those things is not like the others.

In what way?

[fj1200]

As I said previously .. it's not about all types of death. It's about TB being just as dangerous as covid, per numbers, and yet there's no worldwide pandemic hysteria attached. Just because it's in 3rd world countries does not mean it can't be found in 1st and 2nd world countries.

It's not as dangerous as covid in the US. It's not a worldwide pandemic. Of course it can be found in 1st world countries but the incidence is small as demonstrated which means it's not a pandemic.

In what way?

If I have to explain it then you'll never accept what it already is.

[SassyLady]

It's not as dangerous as covid in the US. It's not a worldwide pandemic. Of course it can be found in 1st world countries but the incidence is small as demonstrated which means it's not a pandemic.

So, number of deaths in US determines whether its a pandemic and 3rd world countries don't count. Got it.

If I have to explain it then you'll never accept what it already is.

That's a total cop out FJ. Try me. You're assuming just because you've accepted it means it is fact. Maybe I just can't see it yet because you have not explained it in a way that makes sense to me. Don't give up now.

[fj1200]

So, number of deaths in US determines whether its a pandemic and 3rd world countries don't count. Got it.

Pandemic has a definition and I didn't make it up. We can argue whether it's a pandemic or not...

A pandemic (from Greek πᾶν, pan, "all" and δῆμος, demos, "local people" the 'crowd') is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people. A widespread endemic disease with a stable number of infected people is not a pandemic. Widespread endemic diseases with a stable number of infected people such as recurrences of seasonal influenza are generally excluded as they occur simultaneously in large regions of the globe rather than being spread worldwide.

but it is not of concern in the US or probably Europe, Australia, or other medically advanced countries. Tragic in some countries but not here.

That's a total cop out FJ. Try me. You're assuming just because you've accepted it means it is fact. Maybe I just can't see it yet because you have not explained it in a way that makes sense to me. Don't give up now.

How many threads have we had here rehashing covid this and that over and over? Why bring it up here again and rehash the whole issue? You'll never accept that covid is different and new and an issue to be addressed and I do. COVID is not TB IMO.

[SassyLady]

How many threads have we had here rehashing covid this and that over and over? Why bring it up here again and rehash the whole issue? You'll never accept that covid is different and new and an issue to be addressed and I do. COVID is not TB IMO.

It is different. I don't deny that. It did, after all,, come out of a lab and humanity needs to adapt and we will.

However, our global governments have done more damage to the world than covid has. That is the difference fj. No other disease, even with millions dying from it, shut down the world and made trillions of dollars for those in control.

[fj1200]

It is different. I don't deny that. It did, after all,, come out of a lab and humanity needs to adapt and we will.

However, our global governments have done more damage to the world than covid has. That is the difference fj. No other disease, even with millions dying from it, shut down the world and made trillions of dollars for those in control.

Seemed like there was a bit of denial. No other disease was at 0 two years ago and has killed 4.5mm in less than two years. It deserves a response. Was it overkilll? Could be. Who has made trillions?

[JakeStarkey]

"perspective", sassy, is not contextualized with a 'big steal' lie.

[Gunny]

Seemed like there was a bit of denial. No other disease was at 0 two years ago and has killed 4.5mm in less than two years. It deserves a response. Was it overkilll? Could be. Who has made trillions?

We have not "adapted" to the cold, nor the flu. We suffer through the former and get annual shots for the latter. We've been getting flu shots since the 80s at least.

Using the "building up natural immunity" theory is basically survive it or die. Half are afraid of dying from the flu and the other half are afraid of dying from the cure

In the meantime, politicians are having a field day lying their asses off. Political points are more precious to them than solving the problem. Even more precious to them is keeping us distracted and divided while they do as they damned well please.

[fj1200]

We have not "adapted" to the cold, nor the flu. We suffer through the former and get annual shots for the latter. We've been getting flu shots since the 80s at least.

I got a primer on the flu from a CDC friend of mine and he explained* that the flu virus swirls around in pigs, birds, humans... and has different parts that are almost interchangeable in how they mutate more easily and is harder to nail down exactly what it is or will be when they come up with the vaccine. COVID is a completely different thing.

*My apologies for butchering his explanation.

[Gunny]

I got a primer on the flu from a CDC friend of mine and he explained* that the flu virus swirls around in pigs, birds, humans... and has different parts that are almost interchangeable in how they mutate more easily and is harder to nail down exactly what it is or will be when they come up with the vaccine. COVID is a completely different thing.

*My apologies for butchering his explanation.

While not having my doctorate, I understand the basic science behind viruses.

This would be called an assumption, based on some knowledge and some guesswork: A bio weapons expert would be remiss when genetically altering a bio strain without enhancing its adaptability/survivability.

The US, more than any other country, has been thrown into complete chaos. That's as good as killing us from a weapons point of view. I would in fact consider it a far superior psychological weapon than just a pain in the ass virus. America's sense of invulnerability has been shattered and dragged through the mud. Even at this very moment, there's another run being made on TP

If scientists could infuse the vaccine in TP we'd probably be getting somewhere. Americans want to hide behind cloth face covers and asswipe. What a crew