George Casey tells it straight

[JohnDoe]

I bet you get horny EVERY TIME somebody says something like that. Words that turn you on:

The Army is tired.
Soldiers don't like to deploy. (side note: I shared a beer or 5 with a SFC and a CPT who are PISSED that their units left for Iraq w/o them. They are the 'stay-behind' OIC and NCOIC.)
The Army is spread-thin.
Enlistment rates are down.
The Army suffered a defeat.

Don't tie your irrelevant, out-of-touch opinions on Army deployments to the comments made by Gen. Casey. He said nothing that should surprise anybody. You say the Army is stretched thin because of an "unnecessary war"? Maybe forces are stretched thin because of clinton's massive draw-down?

good morning dmp

the truth be told it was Rumsfeld and Cheney from the Bush 1 administration that recommended the draw down.... due to the "cold war" being over....is what the facts show, and they recommended a larger draw down of troops than even Clinton was willing to do, if memory serves


jd

[darin]

good morning dmp

the truth be told it was Rumsfeld and Cheney from the Bush 1 administration that recommended the draw down.... due to the "cold war" being over....is what the facts show, and they recommended a larger draw down of troops than even Clinton was willing to do, if memory serves


jd

Good to see you again, JD -

Nice Spin!

:-/

[Psychoblues]

No spin, dmp. Just facts and you demonstrate that you can't handle facts.

Good to see you again, JD -

Nice Spin!

:-/

You're not alone, so don't be so forlorn about it, OK?

[manu1959]

good morning dmp

the truth be told it was Rumsfeld and Cheney from the Bush 1 administration that recommended the draw down.... due to the "cold war" being over....is what the facts show, and they recommended a larger draw down of troops than even Clinton was willing to do, if memory serves


jd

how many military bases were closed under clinton?.....how many military bases in california.....how many in pelosis district?....how many went to her nephew's company......lennar.....

[JohnDoe]

how many military bases were closed under clinton?.....how many military bases in california.....how many in pelosis district?....how many went to her nephew's company......lennar.....

i don't know the answers to those questions, i could try to find out...does this have something to do with my statement?

jd

[manu1959]

i don't know the answers to those questions, i could try to find out...does this have something to do with my statement?

jd

i do....it has to do with who closed bases...and it wasn't bush...

[Psychoblues]

Oh yes it was!!!!!!! ALL of those closings were advised and suggested by #41 and reinforced by the Pentagon from the Reagan Administration.

i do....it has to do with who closed bases...and it wasn't bush...

You have a right to your opinion, m'59 but your rewriting of history just ain't gonna fly with those of us that were actually there. Dig it?

[JohnDoe]

i do....it has to do with who closed bases...and it wasn't bush...

the cuts in the Military were recommended by the previous administration, even greater cuts than what were taken...

and was pelosi speaker of the house 15 years ago, or maybe on a committee that over saw this, like the armed service committee? and didn't all states take some military closures? did calif take more closures than their fair share out of the cuts?

i am not saying clinton was for keeping the military as big as it was....he was probably thrilled with the previous administration's recomendation for cuts...but i don't believe he arbitrarily made cuts just to hurt this country and intentionally make us less secure... it was the mindset of his administration and even moreso the previous administration and the intelligence community, that since the cold war was officially over, we did not need a military, at the levels that it had been maintaining.

jd

[Psychoblues]

Clinton , #41, Ronald Reagan and most all very tired tax paying Americans were thrilled with the idea of reducing our military expenditures post cold war, JD. To imply differently is simply dishonest and only self serving in the most ominous sense. Don't you think?

[actsnoblemartin]

I have an honest question for your maineman.

How do we know who to trust, and who is right?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa..._says_general/

Army Chief of Staff General George Casey had some pretty frightening stuff to tell congress. I trust his judgment implicitly.

From my perspective, this is what you get when you veer off target and start an unnecessary war in Iraq. Bush and his party have proven they are too inept to steer the ship of state.

[Psychoblues]

Your questiojn is not honest, martin.

I have an honest question for your maineman.

How do we know who to trust, and who is right?

Read only through this thread and you might be enlightened.

[actsnoblemartin]

are you always such an ass

Geez, im sorry god, i knewi should have bowed down to you.

You idiot. No.

[Psychoblues]

The quote by martin is not complete or a part of this group conversation. I hope this clears up any question you may have on this subject.

martin wants so bad to be Right but he is continually Wrong.