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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    If you, and many like you, are not vaccinated, get covid, end up in the hospital, and take up ICU or otherwise beds then other necessary surgeries, procedures, etc. than you've affected someone who is. See the State of GA right now.
    OK. I copied this from the cdc website on May 4

    What We are Still Learning
    We are still learning how well vaccines prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to others, even if you do not have symptoms.
    We’re also still learning how long COVID-19 vaccines protect people.
    We are still learning how many people have to be vaccinated against COVID-19 before most people can be considered protected (population immunity).
    We are still learning how effective the vaccines are against new variants of the virus that causes COVID-19

    Also I have already had covid 19 so I should have antibodies to fight off the virus. My BIL had covid then got his first shot and reacted so badly to it, the marines wouldn't allow him to get the second one.

    How is this even a vaccine at all if you can still get covid 19?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    How is this even a vaccine at all if you can still get covid 19?
    Less likely to get covid. Less likely to die from covid if you get it. There wasn't a guarantee that went along with it. But you asked how do the unvaccinated effect others. If you're in GA then other procedures are getting pushed back because the unvaccinated are taking up bed space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    If you're in GA then other procedures are getting pushed back because the unvaccinated are taking up bed space.
    As are drug addicts, gang bangers, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Less likely to get covid. Less likely to die from covid if you get it. There wasn't a guarantee that went along with it. But you asked how do the unvaccinated effect others. If you're in GA then other procedures are getting pushed back because the unvaccinated are taking up bed space.
    That would certainly true if one hasn't had covid yet. Since I have already had it, I should have antibodies so how should I end up in the hospital?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    As are drug addicts, gang bangers, etc.
    Who are the people not taking up the vast majority of the ICU beds in GA? /jeopardy

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    That would certainly true if one hasn't had covid yet. Since I have already had it, I should have antibodies so how should I end up in the hospital?
    I think we're talking about the majority of those who haven't had covid nor are vaccinated.
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    This will undoubtedly be headed for the courts. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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    ‘Violates Florida Law’ – Gov. DeSantis Announces Cities, Counties That Require Employees to Get Vaxxed will Be Fined $5,000 Per Infraction

    Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) on Monday fought back against Joe Biden’s unconstitutional vaccine mandates.

    DeSantis announced cities and counties that force employees to get vaccinated will be fined $5,000 per infraction.

    “We are here today to make it very clear that we are going to stand for the men and women who are serving. We are going to protect Florida jobs,” DeSantis said during the news conference. “We are not gonna let people be fired because of a vaccine mandate.”

    Government agencies mandating vaccines violates Florida law DeSantis said.

    Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...raction-video/
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    Kind of a reverse Whitmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    This will undoubtedly be headed for the courts. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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    ‘Violates Florida Law’ – Gov. DeSantis Announces Cities, Counties That Require Employees to Get Vaxxed will Be Fined $5,000 Per Infraction

    Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) on Monday fought back against Joe Biden’s unconstitutional vaccine mandates.

    DeSantis announced cities and counties that force employees to get vaccinated will be fined $5,000 per infraction.

    “We are here today to make it very clear that we are going to stand for the men and women who are serving. We are going to protect Florida jobs,” DeSantis said during the news conference. “We are not gonna let people be fired because of a vaccine mandate.”

    Government agencies mandating vaccines violates Florida law DeSantis said.

    Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...raction-video/
    He sure doesn't shy away from going out on a limb, does he ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    He sure doesn't shy away from going out on a limb, does he ?
    It's all a campaign ad for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    It's all a campaign ad for him.
    If it is, IMO, it's putting too many eggs in one basket that may not even be relevant 3 years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    Biden is looking
    Your comments that presume Biden is aware of anything are funny.

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    If you are incapable of violence, you are not peaceful, you are just harmless.



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