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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Perhaps that would bring more honesty to the world.

    I truly believe that the 2 second rule is why the MSM and politicians are so corrupt. They believe the public is ignorant enough they can blatantly lie because it's considered a minor infraction. But to the victim it is a major event. She knows the truth and Netflix created a falsehood about her accomplishments.

    Fj ... would you just roll over and dismiss it if it was someone you loved being lied about in a movie being watched by millions?
    So, you're for infringing on freedom of speech just a little bit then? I believe this 2 second rule has nothing to do with any corruption by the MSM becasue they have a completely different level when it comes to slander and libel. Also see the Richard Jewell case.

    And there's a difference between rolling over and demanding someone bend to my perceived slight. Laws shouldn't be made on opinions of emotion and our society should protect speech rights. Even if it sucks sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So, you're for infringing on freedom of speech just a little bit then? I believe this 2 second rule has nothing to do with any corruption by the MSM becasue they have a completely different level when it comes to slander and libel. Also see the Richard Jewell case.

    And there's a difference between rolling over and demanding someone bend to my perceived slight. Laws shouldn't be made on opinions of emotion and our society should protect speech rights. Even if it sucks sometimes.
    How can it be a perceived slight? Is not a "he said, she said" issue. It's a major point being made in a movie that Netflix is profiting from. Free speech should not be about changing history to make a movie more profitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    How can it be a perceived slight? Is not a "he said, she said" issue. It's a major point being made in a movie that Netflix is profiting from. Free speech should not be about changing history to make a movie more profitable.
    I don't believe the profitability has anything to do with her complaint. They could have left it out completely, still be as fictional, and still be profitable to the same extent, and she still wouldn't have a legal recourse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So, you're for infringing on freedom of speech just a little bit then? I believe this 2 second rule has nothing to do with any corruption by the MSM becasue they have a completely different level when it comes to slander and libel. Also see the Richard Jewell case.

    And there's a difference between rolling over and demanding someone bend to my perceived slight. Laws shouldn't be made on opinions of emotion and our society should protect speech rights. Even if it sucks sometimes.
    I hate having to caveat everything. While I don't personally care, when today's narrative is controlled by gender and race, how could an outright lie regarding gender NOT matter?

    Provable in writing or not, "never competing against males" for a female is like the * in front of the strike season Super Bowl winner.

    As an aside, I played Chess from the time I was 7 until maybe 20 years ago. Love the game. You couldn't pay me to watch a movie about it. Or even to watch someone else play it. ESPECIALLY if the gam comes with play by play and color commentary as other sports. "He hasn't moved in ten minutes folks, chin in the palm of his hand, studying the board. If I was him I'd ...." Not exactly a spectator sport
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't believe the profitability has anything to do with her complaint. They could have left it out completely, still be as fictional, and still be profitable to the same extent, and she still wouldn't have a legal recourse.
    True.

    However, they did include the lie to make a false fact that a woman (and specifically this woman) had not beat any men at chess at that point in history. They did it to diminish a master class female champion.

    With all the wokeness going on I predict she'll prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    True.

    However, they did include the lie to make a false fact that a woman (and specifically this woman) had not beat any men at chess at that point in history. They did it to diminish a master class female champion.

    With all the wokeness going on I predict she'll prevail.
    Why would Netflix do that? Netflix is already on MY boycott list for all its progressive wokeness BS. I would believe they did it because they're just that damned dumb before them doing it to purposefully diminish a woman. Then let it go as far as lawsuit? Doesn't sound very "woke" to me.

    And where is "wokeville" on social media driving nefflix out of business? Only takes one mistake with that bunch.

    This is what happens when I don't know what's going on, don't care and get involved anyway

    A lie's a lie and wrong is wrong. I hope Netflix goes broke over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I hate having to caveat everything. While I don't personally care, when today's narrative is controlled by gender and race, how could an outright lie regarding gender NOT matter?
    I'm not staking any future on this but it's a court case with a speech defense IMO and nothing about gender.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    With all the wokeness going on I predict she'll prevail.
    Not based on case law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    A lie's a lie and wrong is wrong. I hope Netflix goes broke over it.
    They've spent far more in lawyers on this stuff to have any chance of losing a court case. This is not new to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Prediction. She doesn't get anything.
    I agree. Is it not fiction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    I agree. Is it not fiction?
    As far as I know. I know an author and I was a bit surprised one day when she mentioned to our group how much of what she writes, fiction btw, is pored over by lawyers. One thing for sure, big companies; don't like to get sued if they can help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    I agree. Is it not fiction?
    The movie is fiction but she is real (HER NAME NOT FICTION)and her record is real (NOT FICTION). They lied about her record--one must ask why.
    And the answer is obvious, to benefit them and the story line--to make money.
    Can she prove it harmed her. I dunno.
    But with the new WOKENESS" -- she may prevail.... I hope she does... --TYR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The movie is fiction but she is real (HER NAME NOT FICTION)and her record is real (NOT FICTION). They lied about her record--one must ask why.
    And the answer is obvious, to benefit them and the story line--to make money.
    Can she prove it harmed her. I dunno.
    But with the new WOKENESS" -- she may prevail.... I hope she does... --TYR
    I don’t think the series used her name, did they? Or claimed to be a documentary? I’d need more info, but if it’s a fictional story that has a character who has similarities to this real person, I still don’t think she will win any suit for damages. I think she needs to suck it up and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    I don’t think the series used her name, did they? Or claimed to be a documentary? I’d need more info, but if it’s a fictional story that has a character who has similarities to this real person, I still don’t think she will win any suit for damages. I think she needs to suck it up and move on.
    They used her name but lied about her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    I don’t think the series used her name, did they? Or claimed to be a documentary? I’d need more info, but if it’s a fictional story that has a character who has similarities to this real person, I still don’t think she will win any suit for damages. I think she needs to suck it up and move on.
    I hate it when somebody starts hitting me things I did not consider..
    So stop it, nobody likes to get their bubble busted, my friend.
    PLeeeeeeeeeeezzze let me pretend to be 100% right and just foolishly and blindly go on my way....
    Hell well...It works so damn well for the dems/libs-- that I thought for once in my onery life that I'd try it out... --Tyr
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    My confidence rating in my original prediction is moving higher.
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    With the Court having declined to dismiss the case, stay tuned to see this match escalate. At the beginning of the month, Netflix appealed the district court’s ruling to the Ninth Circuit. Gaprindashvili may not be the protagonist of The Queen’s Gambit, but at least for now, her early strategy and pawn structure have placed Netflix in a bind.
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