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    Default Former JCOS Chairman Says Gen. Milley’s Calls With China Are Not Abnormal

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    Former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Mike Mullen appeared to defend the current chairman’s calls with China. On Sunday, Mullen told ABC that having conversations with foreign counterparts is routine. Therefore, he asserted Gen. Mark Milley did not act abnormally.
    Mullen said he does hope some reported parts of the calls are not accurate, however, like Milley allegedly telling China he would warn them of a strike if one were to be planned.
    The Former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman implied he’s more concerned with China’s reaction than Milley’s behavior on the calls. He suggested lines of communication with China are new and positive developments. However, he pointed out that China is not reading the communications properly.
    “What’s a little bit alarming to me though is that the Chinese would read the situation as they did, as really chaotic,” Mullen stated. “As if we were going to possibly strike. It’s very clear, and I don’t know this because I haven’t talked to Chairman Milley, it’s very clear he had good intel that this was the case.”

    Chairman Milley is scheduled to speak to Congress about the Afghanistan withdrawal at the end of the month, though questions about his phone calls are expected now.
    https://www.oann.com/former-jcos-cha...-not-abnormal/
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    Millions of Americans Could Have Died if Joint Chiefs' Milley Warned the Chinese of an Attack
    BY MARK TAPSCOTT SEP 17, 2021 5:39 PM ET


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    Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is defending his two calls to his Chinese counterpart, Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), during the final tense days of President Donald Trump’s tenure in the White House.


    Liberals are hailing Milley for making the calls despite the fact that he had zero constitutional authority to do so if, as reported by Washington Post writers Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their forthcoming book, he promised to give the Chinese advance notice of a U.S. attack.

    Yes, read that last part again. The president’s top military adviser promised the military head of America’s most dangerous adversary that he would warn them in advance should Trump decide to launch an attack on China.

    Milley is defending making the two calls as “routine” and intended to provide “reassurance” to the Chinese government during the period immediately prior to the November 2020 election, which Trump officially lost, and the January 20 inauguration of Joe Biden as his successor.

    “We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you,” Milley told the Chinese general, according to Woodward and Costa. “If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

    Trump did not know about the calls. Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller claims he was not informed of the calls. Milley insisted Friday that, although the calls were routine, he would only comment in detail when he testifies before Congress in October. “I think it’s best that I reserve my comments on the record until I do that in front of the lawmakers who have the lawful responsibility to oversee the U.S. military,” he said. “I’ll go into any level of detail Congress wants to go into in a couple of weeks.”

    “Lawful responsibility” coming from Milley? That’s rich.

    The last time a top U.S. general defied his commander in chief was Gen. Douglas MacArthur in 1950 and 1951 during the Korean War, who publicly criticized President Harry Truman’s orders that the American military not attack north of the Yalu River, the border between North Korea and China.

    Truman fired MacArthur after multiple occasions in which the general made his disagreements with his boss public. His firing was the occasion for MacArthur’s subsequent memorable farewell address to Congress in which he declared that “old soldiers never die, they just fade away.”

    But Milley doesn’t appear to be in danger of being fired because Joe Biden isn’t Harry Truman. In fact, at a minimum, he should resign and a persuasive case can be made that he should face severe legal consequences.

    As chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Milley has no operational authority over U.S. military operations. His role is strictly advisory and the president is free to follow or reject that advice. Taking it upon himself to warn an adversary that a U.S. attack is coming is only a short step back from going Benedict Arnold.

    The president alone is the commander-in-chief and all of his subordinates, including the Joint Chiefs, have a choice – either execute orders or resign. That said, think about what could have happened had Milley somehow concluded that Trump was about to launch military action of some kind against China.
    Nothing routine about the promising by one of our generals to an enemy-- to give advance warning if we are going to attack...
    That oath to betray our military is treason any damn way- anybody tries to slice it and top military experts agree on that.
    At least the ones that are not in the dems pocket...

    Milley's only out is if he did not make that promise but looks to me, like he did make it...

    Least we forget this part....
    ""Liberals are hailing Milley for making the calls despite the fact that he had zero constitutional authority to do so if, as reported by Washington Post writers Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their forthcoming book, he promised to give the Chinese advance notice of a U.S. attack."" --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Nothing routine about promising one of our generals an enemy to give advance warning if we are going to attack...
    That oath to betray our military is treason any damn way- anybody tries to slice it and top military experts agree on that.
    At least the ones that are not in the dems pocket...

    Milley's only out is if he did not make that promise but likes like he did make it...

    Least we forget this part....
    ""Liberals are hailing Milley for making the calls despite the fact that he had zero constitutional authority to do so if, as reported by Washington Post writers Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their forthcoming book, he promised to give the Chinese advance notice of a U.S. attack."" --Tyr
    I agree with this "chairman" of the JCS (whatever that is ) that calling the counterpart is probably not that unusual.

    This guy also says he has "concerns" about what the content of the call stating Milley would warn Li. As he should. That is a military general going into business for himself, outside of and over his chain of command. There is a damned BIG reason for the chain of command. To preclude a military takeover of the US government; which, had Miilley carried out any such promise would be exactly what he was doing.

    His ass needs to be fried and an example made.
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    You all have it backwards.

    General Milley preserved the status quo and made sure Trump did not threaten China so he could remain President.

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    18 U.S.Code 2381 Treason

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    U.S. Constitution Treason

    Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
    There are about 5 Articles under the UCMJ that fit the bill as well.

    THAT is the law. I cannot answer for those who are not enforcing it except to say that it is dereliction of duty on their part. Milley's actions clearly fall within it.

    It isn't okay because Milley or anyone else doesn't like the President. There's no special clause stating Democrats can ignore the law. If that is case, then the law serves no purpose. The precedent being set in this case can do serious or grave damage the US Government especially during a commitment that requires the military.

    Hope that's worth a partisan cheap shot at a President and book sales.
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    Then let us see what the AG's office does.

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