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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I guess. But your position is not rational.
    FJ, Her position is rational.
    there's evidence for it, you just don't like it.

    just like there was evidence for the Rona coming from a lab but the MSM and "reasonable people" claimed others were irrational conspiracy theorist for even mentioning it.
    But finally MORE evidence has come out... really the evidence that was there all along has just been more widely decimated.

    How many times will this have to happen before people start to get the idea.
    the MSM, the gov'ts and the corporations don't give up bad news if they don't have to.
    and often the truth comes out a window or side door from people who don't necessarily LOOK RIGHT, but have the factual info.

    the "sex worker" at a murder trail may not be the IDEAL witness but that doesn't mean she didn't take cell phone video of the murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    FJ, Her position is rational.
    there's evidence for it, you just don't like it.

    just like there was evidence for the Rona coming from a lab but the MSM and "reasonable people" claimed others were irrational conspiracy theorist for even mentioning it.
    But finally MORE evidence has come out... really the evidence that was there all along has just been more widely decimated.

    How many times will this have to happen before people start to get the idea.
    the MSM, the gov'ts and the corporations don't give up bad news if they don't have to.
    and often the truth comes out a window or side door from people who don't necessarily LOOK RIGHT, but have the factual info.

    the "sex worker" at a murder trail may not be the IDEAL witness but that doesn't mean she didn't take cell phone video of the murder.
    There is no evidence at this point that proves that pilots are dying while flying. There is hearsay. And not hearsay from a reliable source IMO. To take this stance on the MSM and then buying into these alternative news sources with questionable backgrounds and track records is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. No one here is arguing that the MSM gets it right all of the time but to take select instances as evidence for the whole and basing your position on the outliers is flat wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    There is no evidence at this point that proves that pilots are dying while flying. There is hearsay. And not hearsay from a reliable source IMO. To take this stance on the MSM and then buying into these alternative news sources with questionable backgrounds and track records is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. No one here is arguing that the MSM gets it right all of the time but to take select instances as evidence for the whole and basing your position on the outliers is flat wrong.
    And you are flat wrong on discounting alternative sources of informative just because you listen to fact checkers, MSM, corporate PR statements, etc. Instead of the copilot and flight attendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    And you are flat wrong on discounting alternative sources of informative just because you listen to fact checkers, MSM, corporate PR statements, etc. Instead of the copilot and flight attendants.
    As soon as you can provide me the names of the pilot, copilot, flight attendants, and details of the flight in question then they will be summarily discounted less. What I listen to are things that can be verified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    As soon as you can provide me the names of the pilot, copilot, flight attendants, and details of the flight in question then they will be summarily discounted less. What I listen to are things that can be verified.
    Do you require identities of all whistleblowers before you believe?
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    Default From the outside...looking in...IMO

    Why do you need to continue to argue Fj? Are you being disturbed that your man/womanhood is somehow threatened by Sassy?

    Ever heard the expression? "Just let it go?" That would be the KINDER, more GENTLER way to show your Man/Womanhood...IMO of course.

    So now. You can tell me to MIND MY OWN BUSINESS...Which I am as long as I am reading your posts here on DP.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Do you require identities of all whistleblowers before you believe?
    Hmm, good question. I wouldn't think it would be necessary when there is at least some shred of evidence that an event has at least occurred. But why wouldn't someone come forward to the press? I mean, this is blockbuster type stuff. You want to bring forth the truth of the vaccines being more dangerous than the disease right? Surely, there is no reason to sit on something this groundbreaking. If the people who know aren't knocking on the doors of the MSM as we speak then they will have blood on their hands when the next pilot dies while he flies. Why is this not coming out? So far in this thread there have been 3 commercial pilots, allegedly, that have had some sort of event while they've been flying and it's been tied, allegedly, to the vaccine and so far none of it has made to the evening news. Surely at least the people at Fox and OANN will take this ladies call, have on these brave whistleblowers. Hannity who believes anything will get this lady on this afternoon on the radio, tonight on TV, again tomorrow,, tomorrow night....

    WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEOPLES LIVES ARE AT STAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Even the lady from the OP has gotten a forum with a Senator or two. Vaxxers flied and people died.
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