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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    This not showing up anywhere beyond where you've found it is not proof of censorship. I'd almost lay odds that it's completely made up but I'm certainly open to being wrong. Can you say the same?
    Well looky here.

    A senior U.S. Army flight surgeon who warned that pilots could die in mid-air from COVID-19 vaccine side effects testified Tuesday at a roundtable hosted by Sen. Ron Johnson on Capitol Hill.Testifying under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act, Lt. Col. Theresa Long told the Wisconsin Republican at the event that she had grounded vaccinated pilots to monitor symptoms of myocarditis — including chronic fatigue — that could cause them to die of heart failure in mid-air.

    “I made numerous efforts to get senior medical leaders to at the very least inform soldiers of this risk; my concerns were ignored,” Dr. Long said at the event.

    ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...er-testifies-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So, now it's suddenly the truth because one of your approved internet sources posted it?

    Are you admitting you were wrong?

    This news is over 2 months ago.

    https://yournews.com/2021/11/02/2247...inated-pilots/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    So, now it's suddenly the truth because one of your approved internet sources posted it?

    Are you admitting you were wrong?

    This news is over 2 months ago.

    https://yournews.com/2021/11/02/2247...inated-pilots/
    I don't think it's the truth. I just recognize that she exists and filed a whistleblower complaint. And I know it's two months ago but I've not heard of reports of planes dropping from the skies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think it's the truth. I just recognize that she exists and filed a whistleblower complaint. And I know it's two months ago but I've not heard of reports of planes dropping from the skies.
    Because you're not paying attention.

    https://www.oom2.com/t77530-american...should-not-fly
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Because you're not paying attention.

    https://www.oom2.com/t77530-american...should-not-fly
    My friend, too much truth gonna drive certain deniers into a frenzy of blathering, mumbo jumbo replies. Some people have a built in rejection of truth when it is presented to them, imho. Especially if it does not fit in well with their political fantasy narrative. Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Because you're not paying attention.

    https://www.oom2.com/t77530-american...should-not-fly
    Surely that's not the extent of your research into the issue is it? Because sadly, pilots do die while they're flying. And it just doesn't seem that any of that is true. Perhaps a FOIA request to the FAA because they would have the required reporting from the airlines.

    The article asserts both pilots had been vaccinated a few weeks before their flights and that there have been "at least 12 non-fatal incidents involving pilots that had recently received the jab."
    However, none of this is true, said American Airlines spokesperson Whitney Zastrow in an email to USA TODAY.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/6236189001/

    March 30, 2017









    The captain of an American Airlines flight safely landed the plane Wednesday afternoon after his co-pilot died in the cockpit minutes before landing, according to an airline official.


    Flight 1353was two miles from Albuquerque International Sunport when the captain declared an emergency, citing a “medical issue” aboard shortly after 3:30 p.m. local time, according to a Federal Aviation Administration spokesman.






    First officer William “Mike” Grubbs, 58, fell ill just as the plane reached its last phases of landing, according to the airline.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...in-new-mexico/

    Oct. 6, 2015, 1:42 AM EDT / Updated Oct. 6, 2015, 9:26 AM EDTBy Richie Duchon and Hallie Jackson
    American Airlines Capt. Michael Johnston died of a heart-attack mid-flight from Phoenix to Boston early Monday morning, his wife Betty Jean Johnston told NBC News.

    The 57-year-old veteran pilot had a double-bypass heart surgery in 2006, but had otherwise been in good health, his wife said, adding that the airline required Johnston to have a physical every six months to continue piloting.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/tra...ar-old-n439066


    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    My friend, too much truth gonna drive certain deniers into a frenzy of blathering, mumbo jumbo replies. Some people have a built in rejection of truth when it is presented to them, imho. Especially if it does not fit in well with their political fantasy narrative. Tyr
    When your version of truth doesn't seem to be true then you might want to reevaluate your stance. Friendly advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Surely that's not the extent of your research into the issue is it? Because sadly, pilots do die while they're flying. And it just doesn't seem that any of that is true. Perhaps a FOIA request to the FAA because they would have the required reporting from the airlines.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/6236189001/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...in-new-mexico/


    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/tra...ar-old-n439066




    When your version of truth doesn't seem to be true then you might want to reevaluate your stance. Friendly advice.
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    At best it's anecdotal evidence. At worst it's misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    At best it's anecdotal evidence. At worst it's misinformation.
    It's his personal experience. I believe him rather than some PR statement put out. You'll see some day that you are part of the mass formation psychosis.

    If I told you fenbendazole cured two of my friends of cancer (colon and pancreatic) in less than 3 months you would say the same thing because you didn't hear it from an authority figure. However, it's my truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    It's his personal experience. I believe him rather than some PR statement put out. You'll see some day that you are part of the mass formation psychosis.

    If I told you fenbendazole cured two of my friends of cancer (colon and pancreatic) in less than 3 months you would say the same thing because you didn't hear it from an authority figure. However, it's my truth.
    Critical theory is a postmodern concept meant to describe power and justice. So, first of all, we need to ask ourselves, what is postmodernism? Modernism is the idea that there can be an objective reality and an objective truth and that everyone can find and grab hold of that truth. It puts factual analysis ahead of emotions. Postmodernism is the opposite. Postmodernism is the belief that there is no truth. You have your truth. I have my truth. It puts emotions and feelings above thinking. That's why you hear so many people these days say "I feel" instead of "I think." That's a sign we're in postmodern times. People put their feelings ahead of their thinking. Postmodernism is very relational. People find people who speak their truth back to them and those people become fans and have an emotional connection to them.
    https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/ev...know-about-ee2

    I'm sorry but that is leftist pablum. It may be "his personal experience" and fenbenzandole may have been taken by someone who no longer has cancer but the one-year surivaval rate for pancreatic cancer is still 20%. If fenbendazole is an effective tool in fighting pancreatic cancer then people will do research and studies and its effectiveness willl be bourne out.

    In conclusion, this is the first study providing evidence that parbendazole as a single agent, or in combination with gemcitabine, is a repurposing candidate in the currently dismal PC therapy.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6966614/

    But to say that my two friends were cured of cancer because of x is nowhere near truth in fighting cancer because the extension of "your truth" is that we just need to give all pancreatic cancer patients a dog-dewormer because it's "truth." The news is filled with post-modernist stories these days with people telling their "truth." A black person got a bad appraisal so it's their truth that the racist appraisal industry needs to change. Someone got triggered because someone else didn't wear a mask or take the covid precautions that they demand be in their field of vision. Kyle Rittenhouse is guilty because people don't understand the legal system. People are sexually frustrated when they disagree with AOC... All those things must be true because it is someone's "truth." I'm sorry but it takes more than just "my truth" for something to be actually true.

    AA pilots didn't die in the cockpit because a PR statement said they didn't; they either died or they did not. The FAA receives reporting on almost everything that happens in an airliner so it's not something that is behind a veil of secrecy; it can be verified. So is this true or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Because you're not paying attention.

    https://www.oom2.com/t77530-american...should-not-fly
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/ev...know-about-ee2

    I'm sorry but that is leftist pablum. It may be "his personal experience" and fenbenzandole may have been taken by someone who no longer has cancer but the one-year surivaval rate for pancreatic cancer is still 20%. If fenbendazole is an effective tool in fighting pancreatic cancer then people will do research and studies and its effectiveness willl be bourne out.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6966614/

    But to say that my two friends were cured of cancer because of x is nowhere near truth in fighting cancer because the extension of "your truth" is that we just need to give all pancreatic cancer patients a dog-dewormer because it's "truth." The news is filled with post-modernist stories these days with people telling their "truth." A black person got a bad appraisal so it's their truth that the racist appraisal industry needs to change. Someone got triggered because someone else didn't wear a mask or take the covid precautions that they demand be in their field of vision. Kyle Rittenhouse is guilty because people don't understand the legal system. People are sexually frustrated when they disagree with AOC... All those things must be true because it is someone's "truth." I'm sorry but it takes more than just "my truth" for something to be actually true.

    AA pilots didn't die in the cockpit because a PR statement said they didn't; they either died or they did not. The FAA receives reporting on almost everything that happens in an airliner so it's not something that is behind a veil of secrecy; it can be verified. So is this true or not?
    Once again just because you personally have not experienced something or been told by an authority figure you assert it must not be true.

    Have you heard of Joe Tippens? Here's an excerpt from his cancer survivor story.

    The clinical trial ended in September 2017 and, therefore, I couldn't possibly be kicked off of it



    So when my PET scan in September also turned up "all clear" (meaning I had most likely been all clear for 6 months), I decided it was time to "come clean" with my trusted oncologist (who I like and trust very much by the way).



    But before disclosing everything to him, I decided I need to do a little "set up" first.



    After he very excitedly told me the continued good news of being "all clear" for a second consecutive quarter, I asked him a "very loaded" question. I asked, "Doc, what is really going on here? Can you disclose to me how I am doing versus all of the other patients on the clinical trial with the exact same condition"?



    His answer was what I already suspected. He said, "Joe we can't explain it, but you are kind of a sole data outlier right now" Meaning with hundreds of like kind patients, I was the only one with a cure. I knew then my other alternative regimen was largely responsible, but I decided to come clean anyway.



    I said, "Doc, I'm glad you told me that about my results within the trial, because I have something to share with you". I proceeded to tell him all about the canine dewormer as I watched his jaw drop



    His next words I'll never forget (and remember for context he and I had become good friends by this time). He said, "you little shit, I knew there was something up with you.....and....I've had some weird days here at MD Anderson, but this one probably tops them all"



    His next sentence almost floored me. He said, "You know, we've known for decades that these anthelmintic class of drugs (meaning to destroy parasites in the intestines) could have possible efficacy against cancer, and in fact in the 80's and 90's there was a drug called Levamisole that was used on colon cancer and it is an anthelmintic drug".



    I said, "Doc, if you have known for decades why hasn't more work been done on it?" His answer was honest. He said, "probably because of money...all of these drugs are far off-patent and nobody is going to spend a gazillion dollars to repurpose them for cancer.....only to have generic competition the next day."



    I knew he was right.

    https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/sing...wn-perspective
    This was part of our research regarding fenbendazole and cancer. If you actually read the article you see that the doctor is from the MD Andersen cancer center. Tippens heard about using fenbendazole from a veterinarian friend ....
    He told me a story of a scientist at Merck Animal Health (veterinary side of Merck) that had performed cancer research on mice by injecting different types of cancers into different mice body parts. And this scientist stumbled (trial and error) across a product in their canine product line that was batting 1.000 in killing these different cancers.



    He told me that the scientist in question got diagnosed with 4th stage brain cancer and was told "no hope, 3 months to live". This person decided "what the heck" and started taking the canine medicine. Six weeks later, she was all clear.
    Curing cancer is not a good business model and that's why you won't hear anything in "your" list of approved sources. Just like everyone is trying to shut down other uses for ivermectin, they've done the same for fenbendazole.

    And, I'm OK with that. My family and friends know it works and it's cheap so we don't care if drug companies don't want to produce it as a cancer drug. No one could afford it if that happens.
    @fj1200 ... let me know what you think after you read his story. There's many, many more besides his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    At best it's anecdotal evidence. At worst it's misinformation.
    At best you're in denial, at worse you're in denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    At best you're in denial, at worse you're in denial.
    Show me. With evidence. Not someone's "truth."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Once again just because you personally have not experienced something or been told by an authority figure you assert it must not be true.

    Have you heard of Joe Tippens? Here's an excerpt from his cancer survivor story.



    This was part of our research regarding fenbendazole and cancer. If you actually read the article you see that the doctor is from the MD Andersen cancer center. Tippens heard about using fenbendazole from a veterinarian friend ....

    Curing cancer is not a good business model and that's why you won't hear anything in "your" list of approved sources. Just like everyone is trying to shut down other uses for ivermectin, they've done the same for fenbendazole.

    And, I'm OK with that. My family and friends know it works and it's cheap so we don't care if drug companies don't want to produce it as a cancer drug. No one could afford it if that happens.
    @fj1200 ... let me know what you think after you read his story. There's many, many more besides his.
    You're avoiding the issue. I don't doubt that anyone has been cured of anything. In fact I linked to a study that reported positive results from treating pancreatic cancern with what you mentioned. I applaud research into fighting cancer and other diseases with whatever methods are possible. It doesn't look like they're shutting down PC related research and your charge of "approved sources" is complete BS. An "approved source" is one that tells me accurately whether a pilot died while flying or not.

    What you're trying to pass off here is a completely different thing. I started this with expressing my "truth" that planes are not falling from the skies and you said I wasn't looking. Was the link you provided true or was it not? People being cured of cancer is not proof that planes are not falling out of the sky.
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