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    Default Testimony against vax mandate

    Because it discriminates and is not designed to stop transmission.

    PhD, Christina Parks Testimony: Using a Vaccine that Doesn’t Prevent Transmission to Discriminate and Segregate Americans is BULLSHIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Because it discriminates and is not designed to stop transmission.

    PhD, Christina Parks Testimony: Using a Vaccine that Doesn’t Prevent Transmission to Discriminate and Segregate Americans is BULLSHIT

    I do not ever take flu shots and will not ever take the bullshit covid mixture....
    32 years and no flu shot. Have had no flu in 32 years.
    33 YEARS AGO I TOOK MY FIRST AND ONLY EVER FLU SHOT--GOT SMASHED WITH THE FLU--IMMEDIATELY ;
    IN LESS THAT 28 HOURS AFTER THE DAMN SHOT.. KNOCKED ME DOWN FOR 8 DAYS..
    I said, never again. This crap they are peddling has a hidden agenda behind it -- a red flag..
    RED FLAGS ARE NOT TO BE IGNORED..
    FFKK THEM.... THEY CAN INJECT ME--ONLY AFTER THEY KILL ME--NOT BEFORE.

    Now that expert exposed a bit of the bullshit these vermin are pulling..
    First covid vaccine is basically useless now,,, hmmmmm.
    Already broken promises on that.
    ok. will sayit-- told ya so... These vermin are breaking their necks lying and lying..why??? why== a red flag....-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Because it discriminates and is not designed to stop transmission.

    PhD, Christina Parks Testimony: Using a Vaccine that Doesn’t Prevent Transmission to Discriminate and Segregate Americans is BULLSHIT

    How soon until jakkyboy comes on to toss a load of crap????--Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    I never knew that getting flu shot every year was counter productive. I will wait a couple of years in between mine from now on.

    Watch @ 4:44
    Last edited by SassyLady; 09-27-2021 at 10:46 PM.
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    The OPs get stupider.

    Vaxes don't stop transmission because vaxes mutate.

    What they do is lessen greatly or eliminate altogether the effects.

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    Amazing the number of Trump alt right paranoid delusionals here writing stupid and stupider things.

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    Guys, get your flu shots.

    Please.

    For you and your families' benefit.
    Last edited by JakeStarkey; 09-28-2021 at 09:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    The OPs get stupider.

    Vaxes don't stop transmission because vaxes mutate.

    What they do is lessen greatly or eliminate altogether the effects.
    What's stupid is saying "Vaxes don't stop transmission because vaxes mutate" . . .

    You can not truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence.
    If you are incapable of violence, you are not peaceful, you are just harmless.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf Fishing Guru View Post
    What's stupid is saying "Vaxes don't stop transmission because vaxes mutate" . . .
    You have a solid stupid gene, surfnturf. Vaxes don't stop transmissions. They mutate. See, that is a smaller sentence. Do you understand?

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    Point of order; vaccines don't mutate, viruses mutate. The covid vaccine has so far been effective against the covid mutations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Point of order; vaccines don't mutate, viruses mutate. The covid vaccine has so far been effective against the covid mutations.
    Thank you for the correction; I meant viruses not vaccines mutate. The vaxxes have greatly reduced the effect of the Covid strains.

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    A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, when all this covid BS started, I stated the virus was going to be, then was used to divide and discriminate. Look where we are today. I agree with whoever this person is on that point.

    Don't even have to choose a side. It's chosen for you by people who presume themselves smarter than you based on your decision. It has worked primarily to the advantage of the Dems since they own the media and have a government openly demanding it censor anything it doesn't want to hear.

    What a country. Was pretty nice back in the day when we actually had the illusion at least of "freedom"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    You have a solid stupid gene, surfnturf. Vaxes don't stop transmissions. They mutate. See, that is a smaller sentence. Do you understand?
    The gene I have is one that demands people who are constantly telling everyone how smart they are and how dumb everyone else is, to have some degree of integrity when it comes to the meaning of words and their use.

    You, in your haste to stick up for the resident leftist goofball and also insult me, just showed you suffer from the same disease, which I am calling "Jakeyness" from now on.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Point of order; vaccines don't mutate, viruses mutate.
    There ya go!

    Should I take that to be your apology?

    Saying "vaxes mutate" is stupid.

    It is demonstrative of the typical intellectual sloppiness of ol' Jake and a complete lack of interest in being precise in language.

    This is an example of the truism, when you don't know what you are talking about, anything is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The covid vaccine has so far been effective against the covid mutations.
    Wrong, actually it is failing against mutations, especially by the fourth generation because of antigenic escape, AKA, "leakiness". . .

    Massachusetts has seen its hospitalizations of FULLY VACCINATED people hover around 33%.

    A week ago:

    MA_Hosp_9_21_21.jpg

    Yesterday:

    MA_Hosp_9_27_21.jpg

    As I said before,

    Regular vaccines [derived from a weakened, dead or inactivated infectious agent / pathogen] create a wide response in the body, cell-mediated immunity and humoral immunity. Humoral immunity relies on quick response, specific components flowing through the plasma, such as antibodies. Cellular immunity is long-lasing, it is the life-long blueprint for the body to react to pathogens. This is commonly referred to as T-cell immunity; it is not controlled by antibodies and is instead mediated directly by immune cells.

    OTOH, mRNA "vaccines" trick the body to react to an artificial [synthetic] "spike protein" in the shot and create antibodies. Problem is, this isn't the real virus so it only causes a narrow antibody reaction that doesn't really act to kill the entire pathogen.

    This is why we are seeing evidence of "leakiness", vaccine resistant mutations in variations, (especially in Delta and now Lamda and Mu) from antigenic or immune escape. . . . Hence the increased infection rate in "vaccinated" people and their increased carrier potential. The variations aren't the immediate danger, mutations in a variant, especially when we get into the 4th generation, are the danger because the mRNA "vaccines" just aren't agile enough to keep up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf Fishing Guru View Post
    You, in your haste to stick up for the resident leftist goofball and also insult me, just showed you suffer from the same disease, which I am calling "Jakeyness" from now on.



    There ya go!

    Should I take that to be your apology?
    What do I have to apologize for? I was neither sticking up for anyone nor insulting anyone. Just trying to save the board from 3 pages of back and forth.

    But the vaccine is effective against mutations; Data from Massachussetts alone doesn't change that. Could it become less effective? Sure, haven't said otherwise.
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    A friend of mine who monitors such web sites told me I would be amazed at the nonsense you all spread. He was right.

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