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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    Prognosticating what will happen in 2-5 years is crystal ball territory.
    It's easy to get there when you start the trip in crazy town.

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    And does anyone know why two members of the CDC panel voted against the boosters? Two possibilities come to mind:
    1. They are unsure of the safety of the vaccines, OR
    2. They want to save more vaccines for third-world nations.

    Two very different reasons. I’d like to know the truth.
    I think they just didn't see the benefit of boosters for the general population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    ... 'I'm asymptomatic so y'all can just die if I unknowingly spread the shit all over the place. I have no responsibility to the community I suck off the services/infrastructure of.'
    What about MY parents? And everyone else's parents and granparents? In their 80s with underlying medical issues? You're a death sentence. Oh they can stay home? Sure. Lock THEM down. Long as you aren't inconvenienced for the sake fo the community.
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    Scientific studies showing that asymptomatic spread isn’t a thing
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

    University of Florida researchers find no asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread
    The study, conducted by the UF Department of Biostatistics, found that the secondary attack rate for asymptomatic index cases was not statistically different from zero.


    So it seem your parents are safe from me and all the other "not team players" asymptomatic unvaccinated. we are NOT "a death sentence."
    If i have symtoms I'll stay home (HAVE stayed home for 2 weeks with a cold JUST in case it might have been covid.)

    Based on the facts available to the team, I'll do what's seems best for my family and your parents.

    BTW I suspect most people over 75 with conditions are retired with pensions and social security, checks medicare and/or someone taking care of their financial needs. So Why exactly can't they stay home and stay safe... for the team? I still need to work everyday to put food on the table and my kid needs to go to school. Are older people selfish or something?
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