"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Yes, she is dying if she does not get the vax.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
Incorrect. You can live with renal failure. Just like you can live with congestive heart failure... for a time.
Unless you know something more specific to her case that is.A 2019 meta‐analysisTrusted Source estimated that the 1-, 2-, 5-, and 10‐year survival rates of all-type heart failure are 87%, 73%, 57%, and 35%, respectively, although life expectancy for a person with CHF has substantially improved over time.
I would expect something like this to be temporary in nature.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
If she has a donor, surgeons should perform the operation. There's no more to it than that unless she has REAL, underlying conditions that put her at some higher risk.
Same time, physicians pick and choose when it comes to transplants. I don't see the vaccine as a reason for or against.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Ok, Lets say for a moment that this so-called medical reason is 100% legit.
If that's the case, then NO ONE over 70 who comes in the hospital or is met by a paramedic with a Heart Attack should be treated until it's confirmed that they've taken the vaccine. And UNLESS the heart attack victim can somehow choke out the words to agree to a vaccine THEN they should not get treatment. it's not likely that they'll live anyway, plus they MIGHT GET COVID and die sooner than the vaccinated.
So Shouldn't the same go for anyone whose over 70 or simply Obese and has ANY serious Medical problem presented to a doctor?
NO treatment at all unless they have a vaccine.
broke your hip? to bad. Horrible Car accident? so sorry. Stroke? what a shame. Cancer? no vax, not my job man. Appendix burst? Oww that stinks. Choking on a Chicken wing? hmm. vaxine card please.
Sign on the hospital door. "No Vax No Medical Service".
Because you're over 70 and or Overweight you're more likely to DIE from your age/problem and Covid anyway FatArse.
I'm a doctor I'm here to help... but only if you're vaccinated.
Not sure how supporters of this policy don't end up there, if they believe their POV is medically logical.
Why single out kidney patients? ALL the overweight and over 70 and pre existing conditions folks are LESS likely to live through any surgeries anyway. And they MIGHT get covid and MIGHT die even sooner by some arbitrary percentage point.
Seem to me the Medical policy here is just a tissue thin bs medical cover for a pro-vax left that don't want to be as honest as Don Lemon who wants the unvaccinated, shunned, jobless and dying unattended.
But sure sure the Slippery Slope NEVER happens...
War on terr... domestic terrorist...
"We just want tolerance..." "Marry us or else! you bigot" "I am a Woman" if you don't say "HER" no job for you!
2 weeks to slo the... 30 days to slow the curve... "we'll never mandate vaccines...." 'that's conspiracy talk...". "we've run out of patience..."
After our recent history I'm not sure why anyone at this point would honestly assume that steps in the direction I've outlined aren't a real possibility.
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It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
I can tell you this as far as the medical community being absolute dictators goes:
My wife needed a spinal fusion. Not only did the surgeon threaten to not operate on her if she didn't quit smoking, but *I* had to quit smoking too and he would know if she was just in a house where someone smoked by the bloodwork. A asked her if she was nuts believing that crap, but he had her sold.
I ended up moving into the garage because of it.
Simple question I asked her and threw in his face after the surgery: If "I was in the same room where someone is smoking" doesn't pop you on a piss test, then how can it pop her? No one in the military that I know of has ever gotten away with that defense when after being popped for weed.
Just an example. The entire medical community is as based on and steeped in the use of fear for compliance as the MSM and US government.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke