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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    ... she can have the operation if she gets the vax.

    She most likely gets the death panel if she does not get the vax.
    Stop repeating yourself over and over, we get it.
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    The women is denying herself life saving care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    The women is denying herself life saving care.

    No, she found a donor and is willing to undergo surgery

    HOWEVER, the "system" want's her to "bend the knee" and "kiss the ring" before the surgery

    Therefore, the SYSTEM is denying the care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    No, she found a donor and is willing to undergo surgery

    HOWEVER, the "system" want's her to "bend the knee" and "kiss the ring" before the surgery

    Therefore, the SYSTEM is denying the care


    Average cost of a kidney transplant in the US in 2020. $442,500. Perhaps they just want to give her the best chance at survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post


    Average cost of a kidney transplant in the US in 2020. $442,500. Perhaps they just want to give her the best chance at survival.
    So you DENY Treatment to give the BEST chance of Survival?
    not sure how that works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    So you DENY Treatment to give the BEST chance of Survival?
    not sure how that works?
    the best chance of survival with the transplant is get vaccinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    the best chance of survival with the transplant is get vaccinated.
    Best chance of survival without the vaccine is the transplant.

    worse chance is without the transplant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    ... she can have the operation if she gets the vax.

    She most likely gets the death panel if she does not get the vax.

    You are so thick .

    Anything more complex than adding single digit numbers and you are flailing .

    Understanding implications and drawing rational inferences is quite outside your capabilities .

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Best chance of survival without the vaccine is the transplant.

    worse chance is without the transplant.

    Why is this so hard to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeStarkey View Post
    This is about best medical science.
    THIS SUPERCEDES everything else in the U.S.A. Whether you like it or not.



    And this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Best chance of survival without the vaccine is the transplant.

    worse chance is without the transplant.
    Umm, like I said a couple of pages ago her life isn't really in danger in the short term. Unless you have some other information that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    Why is this so hard to understand?
    It's more of a quality of life issue. Unless you have some other information that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    In other words

    DEATH PANELS
    this is what it comes down to really.
    But to pull it back from the hyperbolic. (however in some cases, like the man with less than 3 months to live without the liver transplant it was a DEATH PANEL)

    this points out the problem with "UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE"
    One system run by one group of overseers get to decide what's EVERYONE'S treatment will be be.
    Doctors and Patient choice is out the window.
    the GOV"T will "CARE" for you from cradled to grave. All other medical options are "unapproved". And may (will) completely void your Gov't "CARE"/Coverage.
    Why? Because the gov't FDA, CDC, congress, big pharma knows best. never been wrong.
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    ^Was that the same guy looking at his 3rd liver transplant?
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