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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    No, this was a master stroke from McConnell.


    Read this, it explains it all :



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    https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10...freaks-n452818


    Thus, the bullshit argument about nuking the filibuster is now moot. And it'll force them to use reconciliation on this instead of using it for backdooring the other abomination through.

    It's brilliant.

    McConnell is twice as clever as Schumer. He's got this.
    Yeah, I think Mitch is pretty much the master of the Senate. He's no Pelosi or Schumer on swagger. He doesn't pretend to be what he's not. He doesn't kiss up and rarely let's his personal opinions take center stage. His thinking is to maximize the GOP senate seats. He reads the opposition better than any politician I've seen in a long, long time.

    Schumer knows it, he really loathes what McConnell pulled off today, but has no choice, mostly because of the House progs. The GOP looked to be setting up to take the fall if debts went past due, not anymore. Not only willing to pull the country back, but did so by putting the crazy spending bill front and center. Nothing gets the average Joe's attention during steeply rising costs like focusing on coupling the economy with massive garnering of debt. Maybe one thing can even sharpen that focus, "It won't cost 1 cent in taxes." Anyone shopping at grocery or literal shopping stores can see there are people literally putting higher price tags on everything from 30 cents to $30 ot $40 dollars.

    What those that read know, but not seeing YET, are the winter and next summer energy costs. Then there's the ticking bomb of housing bubble and damage done to rental market due to government regulations via covid-landlords are now basically trying to get as much paid up front as their market can bare. They've been shafted by government and tenants. Most are middle class folks that were working on multiple streams of income and got kicked in the teeth by the government while big corps get their pickings of properties. Think farmers over the past 100 years.

    Mitch is going to force the administration and majority party to have the moderates and progs articulate their visions through reconciliation. He's going to use the real projection numbers given by budget and treasury and fed for said programs. There are going to be lists of every egregious bone hidden in the bill. It may still pass, but the average voter will be reminded come midterms what happened this fall and coming winter. Given the inflationary curve, where do you think interests rates will be in 2023?

    I for one only fear that some GOP leadership may turn the attention from the policies of the left to individuals on the right, changing the focus of coming elections.


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    Mitch is no fool, for sure, even if he hates the principles on which the Republic was founded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Yeah, I think Mitch is pretty much the master of the Senate. He's no Pelosi or Schumer on swagger. He doesn't pretend to be what he's not. He doesn't kiss up and rarely let's his personal opinions take center stage. His thinking is to maximize the GOP senate seats. He reads the opposition better than any politician I've seen in a long, long time.

    Schumer knows it, he really loathes what McConnell pulled off today, but has no choice, mostly because of the House progs. The GOP looked to be setting up to take the fall if debts went past due, not anymore. Not only willing to pull the country back, but did so by putting the crazy spending bill front and center. Nothing gets the average Joe's attention during steeply rising costs like focusing on coupling the economy with massive garnering of debt. Maybe one thing can even sharpen that focus, "It won't cost 1 cent in taxes." Anyone shopping at grocery or literal shopping stores can see there are people literally putting higher price tags on everything from 30 cents to $30 ot $40 dollars.

    What those that read know, but not seeing YET, are the winter and next summer energy costs. Then there's the ticking bomb of housing bubble and damage done to rental market due to government regulations via covid-landlords are now basically trying to get as much paid up front as their market can bare. They've been shafted by government and tenants. Most are middle class folks that were working on multiple streams of income and got kicked in the teeth by the government while big corps get their pickings of properties. Think farmers over the past 100 years.

    Mitch is going to force the administration and majority party to have the moderates and progs articulate their visions through reconciliation. He's going to use the real projection numbers given by budget and treasury and fed for said programs. There are going to be lists of every egregious bone hidden in the bill. It may still pass, but the average voter will be reminded come midterms what happened this fall and coming winter. Given the inflationary curve, where do you think interests rates will be in 2023?

    I for one only fear that some GOP leadership may turn the attention from the policies of the left to individuals on the right, changing the focus of coming elections.
    I take it you didn't post this from your phone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I take it you didn't post this from your phone
    Lol! Nope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Yeah, I think Mitch is pretty much the master of the Senate. He's no Pelosi or Schumer on swagger. He doesn't pretend to be what he's not. He doesn't kiss up and rarely let's his personal opinions take center stage. His thinking is to maximize the GOP senate seats. He reads the opposition better than any politician I've seen in a long, long time.

    Schumer knows it, he really loathes what McConnell pulled off today, but has no choice, mostly because of the House progs. The GOP looked to be setting up to take the fall if debts went past due, not anymore. Not only willing to pull the country back, but did so by putting the crazy spending bill front and center. Nothing gets the average Joe's attention during steeply rising costs like focusing on coupling the economy with massive garnering of debt. Maybe one thing can even sharpen that focus, "It won't cost 1 cent in taxes." Anyone shopping at grocery or literal shopping stores can see there are people literally putting higher price tags on everything from 30 cents to $30 ot $40 dollars.

    What those that read know, but not seeing YET, are the winter and next summer energy costs. Then there's the ticking bomb of housing bubble and damage done to rental market due to government regulations via covid-landlords are now basically trying to get as much paid up front as their market can bare. They've been shafted by government and tenants. Most are middle class folks that were working on multiple streams of income and got kicked in the teeth by the government while big corps get their pickings of properties. Think farmers over the past 100 years.

    Mitch is going to force the administration and majority party to have the moderates and progs articulate their visions through reconciliation. He's going to use the real projection numbers given by budget and treasury and fed for said programs. There are going to be lists of every egregious bone hidden in the bill. It may still pass, but the average voter will be reminded come midterms what happened this fall and coming winter. Given the inflationary curve, where do you think interests rates will be in 2023?

    I for one only fear that some GOP leadership may turn the attention from the policies of the left to individuals on the right, changing the focus of coming elections.
    That last paragraph, alas. Trump doesn't like the deal. McConnell is weak, soon Lindsay Graham and other acolytes are and will undermine. It's not about the country or the party...


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