Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 28 of 28
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,767
    Thanks (Given)
    7712
    Thanks (Received)
    7683
    Likes (Given)
    817
    Likes (Received)
    2823
    Piss Off (Given)
    8
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    19919858

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Yes

    If you mean results where walkouts and groundings are concerned, yes. If you mean Biden is going to handle it the way President Reagan did, he couldn't hope to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan's ass

    I liked Ronald Reagan. He as the last President I voted FOR.
    To channel Larry Holmes, Biden couldn't carry Reagans jock strap.

  2. Thanks Gunny thanked this post
    Likes Gunny liked this post
  3. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475724

    Default

    Some more fighting back.

    ---

    Brave Veteran Pilot Speaks Out Against Vaccine Mandates

    A US veteran pilot posted a TikTok video claiming his airline’s vaccine mandate amounts to an ultimatum between “feeding his family” and freedom of choice.”

    The pilot, who uses the TikTok account @cellsaucenutrition in the video, says, “I’ve been an airline pilot for 18 years and now I’m facing an ultimatum… I’m being told that in order to continue my career as an airline pilot, I must be vaccinated.”

    The pilot adds, “Which really means I have to choose between putting food on the table for my family and my freedom of choice. I’ve been told that in order to continue my career as an airline pilot I must be vaccinated, which really means I have to choose between putting food on the table for my family, and my freedom of choice.”



    A Qantas pilot also spoke out against the vaccine and he was fired in Australia.



    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...andates-video/
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  4. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    over here
    Posts
    13,356
    Thanks (Given)
    5574
    Thanks (Received)
    6627
    Likes (Given)
    5342
    Likes (Received)
    3966
    Piss Off (Given)
    35
    Piss Off (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    88 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    17558168

    Default

    I wonder how many vaccines are mandated in order to be a pilot.

    In their original contract are there terms that deal with vaccines? Would the mandate be a violation of their contract?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

  5. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    In my knickers
    Posts
    31,029
    Thanks (Given)
    13927
    Thanks (Received)
    15358
    Likes (Given)
    4384
    Likes (Received)
    5487
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475356

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Yes

    If you mean results where walkouts and groundings are concerned, yes. If you mean Biden is going to handle it the way President Reagan did, he couldn't hope to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan's ass

    I liked Ronald Reagan. He as the last President I voted FOR. He'd already be slapping heads all over the place and squaring shit away if he was our President again.
    Oh Lordy, no. Biden couldn’t act like Reagan if his own life depended on it.
    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    “Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
    -Abbey

  6. Thanks icansayit, Gunny thanked this post
  7. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    USA East Coast
    Posts
    3,091
    Thanks (Given)
    3048
    Thanks (Received)
    2042
    Likes (Given)
    4798
    Likes (Received)
    1751
    Piss Off (Given)
    230
    Piss Off (Received)
    13
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    6803333

    Default The MANDATES ARE TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL...I've said it here before.

    THEY ARE NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...unless you are BIDEN or a LIBERAL




    The DEMOCRATS actually created the FREEDOM OF CHOICE ACT. Now they are violating their own ACT???

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/s1173/text
    1.Short title
    This Act may be cited as the Freedom of Choice Act.

    2.Findings
    Congress finds the following:

    (1)The United States was founded on core principles, such as liberty, personal privacy, and equality, which ensure that individuals are free to make their most intimate decisions without governmental interference and discrimination.
    (2)One of the most private and difficult decisions an individual makes is whether to begin, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy. Those reproductive health decisions are best made by women, in consultation with their loved ones and health care providers.
    (3)In 1965, in Griswold v. Connecticut (381 U.S. 479), and in 1973, in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113) and Doe v. Bolton (410 U.S. 179), the Supreme Court recognized that the right to privacy protected by the Constitution encompasses the right of every woman to weigh the personal, moral, and religious considerations involved in deciding whether to begin, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy.
    (4)The Roe v. Wade decision carefully balances the rights of women to make important reproductive decisions with the State's interest in potential life. Under Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the right to privacy protects a woman's decision to choose to terminate her pregnancy prior to fetal viability, with the State permitted to ban abortion after fetal viability except when necessary to protect a woman’s life or health.
    (5)These decisions have protected the health and lives of women in the United States. Prior to the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973, an estimated 1,200,000 women each year were forced to resort to illegal abortions, despite the risk of unsanitary conditions, incompetent treatment, infection, hemorrhage, disfiguration, and death. Before Roe, it is estimated that thousands of women died annually in the United States as a result of illegal abortions.
    (6)In countries in which abortion remains illegal, the risk of maternal mortality is high. According to the World Health Organization, of the approximately 600,000 pregnancy-related deaths occurring annually around the world, 80,000 are associated with unsafe abortions.
    (7)The Roe v. Wade decision also expanded the opportunities for women to participate equally in society. In 1992, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (505 U.S. 833), the Supreme Court observed that, [t]he ability of women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control their reproductive lives..
    (8)Even though the Roe v. Wade decision has stood for more than 34 years, there are increasing threats to reproductive health and freedom emerging from all branches and levels of government. In 2006, South Dakota became the first State in more than 15 years to enact a ban on abortion in nearly all circumstances. Supporters of this ban have admitted it is an attempt to directly challenge Roe in the courts. Other States are considering similar bans.
    (9)Further threatening Roe, the Supreme Court recently upheld the first-ever Federal ban on an abortion procedure, which has no exception to protect a woman's health. The majority decision in Gonzales v. Carhart (05-380, slip op. April 18, 2007) and Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood Federation of America fails to protect a woman's health, a core tenet of Roe v. Wade. Dissenting in that case, Justice Ginsburg called the majority's opinion alarming, and stated that, [f]or the first time since Roe, the Court blesses a prohibition with no exception safeguarding a woman's health. Further, she said, the Federal ban and the Court's defense of it cannot be understood as anything other than an effort to chip away at a right declared again and again by this Court.
    (10)Legal and practical barriers to the full range of reproductive services endanger women’s health and lives. Incremental restrictions on the right to choose imposed by Congress and State legislatures have made access to reproductive care extremely difficult, if not impossible, for many women across the country. Currently, 87 percent of the counties in the United States have no abortion provider.
    (11)While abortion should remain safe and legal, women should also have more meaningful access to family planning services that prevent unintended pregnancies, thereby reducing the need for abortion.
    (12)To guarantee the protections of Roe v. Wade, Federal legislation is necessary.
    (13)Although Congress may not create constitutional rights without amending the Constitution, Congress may, where authorized by its enumerated powers and not prohibited by the Constitution, enact legislation to create and secure statutory rights in areas of legitimate national concern.
    (14)Congress has the affirmative power under section 8 of article I of the Constitution and section 5 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution to enact legislation to facilitate interstate commerce and to prevent State interference with interstate commerce, liberty, or equal protection of the laws.
    (15)Federal protection of a woman's right to choose to prevent or terminate a pregnancy falls within this affirmative power of Congress, in part, because—
    (A)many women cross State lines to obtain abortions and many more would be forced to do so absent a constitutional right or Federal protection;
    (B)reproductive health clinics are commercial actors that regularly purchase medicine, medical equipment, and other necessary supplies from out-of-State suppliers; and
    (C)reproductive health clinics employ doctors, nurses, and other personnel who travel across State lines in order to provide reproductive health services to patients.
    Last edited by icansayit; 10-11-2021 at 08:39 PM.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

  8. Likes Juicer66 liked this post
  9. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,895
    Thanks (Given)
    4181
    Thanks (Received)
    4526
    Likes (Given)
    1413
    Likes (Received)
    1065
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173677

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey Marie View Post
    Yup. Similar results, though, if more airlines’ pilots walk out.
    Airline pilots don't work for the Federal government. Air traffic controllers do. But there is a Federal law that gives the POTUS authority to nix strikes in critical industries for a "cooling off period."
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  10. Thanks Abbey Marie thanked this post
  11. #22
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Georgia!
    Posts
    11,810
    Thanks (Given)
    738
    Thanks (Received)
    666
    Likes (Given)
    1133
    Likes (Received)
    819
    Piss Off (Given)
    24
    Piss Off (Received)
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    1203901

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Excellent. This kind of mass rebellion is exactly what it's going to take to reign in this tyrannical liberal authoritarian bullshit.

    The other industries will soon follow their lead, I'm hoping.
    Exactly, just say NO! We ALL have to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    I wonder how many vaccines are mandated in order to be a pilot.

    In their original contract are there terms that deal with vaccines? Would the mandate be a violation of their contract?
    None are required to be a pilot.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Airline pilots don't work for the Federal government. Air traffic controllers do. But there is a Federal law that gives the POTUS authority to nix strikes in critical industries for a "cooling off period."
    This wasn't a strike, but it damn sure got attention.
    UNITED STATES ARMY AVIATION

    Above the Best

    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

  12. Thanks SassyLady, Gunny thanked this post
    Likes Juicer66 liked this post
  13. #23
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    USA East Coast
    Posts
    3,091
    Thanks (Given)
    3048
    Thanks (Received)
    2042
    Likes (Given)
    4798
    Likes (Received)
    1751
    Piss Off (Given)
    230
    Piss Off (Received)
    13
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    6803333

    Default This is all Biden's doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Exactly, just say NO! We ALL have to do that.



    Correct.



    None are required to be a pilot.



    This wasn't a strike, but it damn sure got attention.
    Biden told the major industries to follow his MANDATE for shots, or fire the employee's who didn't follow the mandate. So the pilots know they can't fly if the Mechanics, and Cargo handlers won't do their job at the airports...THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE.
    The only way to SOLVE all of the transportation, trucking, pilots, port workers and on and on would be.....BIDEN HAS TO RECIND HIS ORDERS...Otherwise. The recession will be like 1929.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

  14. Thanks Gunny thanked this post
  15. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Georgia!
    Posts
    11,810
    Thanks (Given)
    738
    Thanks (Received)
    666
    Likes (Given)
    1133
    Likes (Received)
    819
    Piss Off (Given)
    24
    Piss Off (Received)
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    1203901

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Biden told the major industries to follow his MANDATE for shots, or fire the employee's who didn't follow the mandate. So the pilots know they can't fly if the Mechanics, and Cargo handlers won't do their job at the airports...THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE.
    The only way to SOLVE all of the transportation, trucking, pilots, port workers and on and on would be.....BIDEN HAS TO RECIND HIS ORDERS...Otherwise. The recession will be like 1929.
    The employees seem poised to say,

    As I said, we ALL need to do that.

    It'll be much worse than 1929 I'm afraid.
    UNITED STATES ARMY AVIATION

    Above the Best

    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

  16. Thanks icansayit, Gunny thanked this post
  17. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2021
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    952
    Thanks (Given)
    17
    Thanks (Received)
    142
    Likes (Given)
    177
    Likes (Received)
    85
    Piss Off (Given)
    63
    Piss Off (Received)
    136
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    The Biden plan is working perfectly. ------------------.


    Good post, but ------

    Wish I knew whose plan it really was and the exact target end result .

    It is too easy to blame Biden -- ( his handlers actually , to be pedantic ) --- but is this helpful and even correct or useful ?

    The plan as outlined appears literally factual but by the same token seems to be the plan of raving lunatics .

    It is bound to fail . Fail lamentably. And that does not require great foresight .

    So whose benefit is it for and based on what thinking ?

    If it is the Good Guys giving the fools the rope to hang themselves, how will they later justify the pain and mayhem that will still inevitably result ?

    Or, are we just seeing a Deep State change of guard with someone like Trump ( just a random name ! ) only changing the pecking order and updating old previous plans ?

    With a few wicked twists and an apparent surface narrative that totally fools the Sheeple who are 90% gullible by definition ?

    I sure would love some better insight
    .

  18. #26
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    In my knickers
    Posts
    31,029
    Thanks (Given)
    13927
    Thanks (Received)
    15358
    Likes (Given)
    4384
    Likes (Received)
    5487
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    181 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475356

    Default

    Employers already begging for workers definitely don’t need this mandate now.
    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    “Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
    -Abbey

  19. Thanks Kathianne, Gunny, Black Diamond, icansayit thanked this post
    Likes icansayit liked this post
  20. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,988
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15307
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3829
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475184

    Default

    Even though everyone is claiming Southwest's problems aren't due to workers refusing to work, it is.

    I read somewhere that the mandate deadline is coming up, and if an employee has sick leave or vacation coming, it gets nuked. So... they're burning that time before losing it entirely when they get fired.

    This pic pretty much spells out what's actually happening :

    k1TF0jS.jpg



    Yeah, there's going to be a lot of people inconvenienced, but there are greater concerns afoot.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  21. Likes icansayit liked this post
  22. #28
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,811
    Thanks (Given)
    34243
    Thanks (Received)
    26347
    Likes (Given)
    2312
    Likes (Received)
    9910
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    368 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475524

    Default

    When I get tired of no kids from 0650 - 1520 I may look around for a part time job during those hours. WTH. I'm already vaccinated and it doesn't look like Joe's going to save us from inflation.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  23. Thanks Kathianne thanked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums