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    I was just reading about that vaccine; while i've never had chickenpox the literature i read said the shingles vax would prevent me getting the pox. Kind of wish I could get the vax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    I was just reading about that vaccine; while i've never had chickenpox the literature i read said the shingles vax would prevent me getting the pox. Kind of wish I could get the vax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    If you meet the minimum for your Obamediocrecare, it's free.
    The last time i was vaccinated against anything I caught Rhabdomyolysis; am not interested in risking that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    The last time i was vaccinated against anything I caught Rhabdomyolysis; am not interested in risking that again.

    Now that is incredibly bad news .

    Trust this was reversible as most instances are .But a very serious condition . Commiserations .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You are useless around here.

    My mom had shingles and it made its way into her ear; messed up with her equilibrium for quite awhile. My friend had shingles; almost got into his eyes and apparently could have caused blindness. My sister did not enjoy her experience either.We'll wait for more of your crazy tunes stories.


    You seem to be just like Jane .

    The whole world of expertise tells you the same medical fact about something but you know better .A simple medical fact , no less .

    Don't you understand that prognosis is defined on probabilities of a multitude of cases ? Not just your Mother or a random friend .

    But you Conspiracy Theorists love an extreme anecdote to ' prove' something outrageous .

    Then , if queried , you gullibly swallow bogus Fact Checkers .

    That is true Conspiracy .

    Millions get Shingles and correctly diagnosed and treated , the vast majority are well over it within a week -- 10 days . Except for Fj's Mum and a friend .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    Millions get Shingles...
    The idea is to not get it and there's a pretty good product out there that helps in that endeavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The idea is to not get it and there's a pretty good product out there that helps in that endeavor.
    This is a new one on me. The gullible, conspiracy theorist from Hell calls anyone that disagrees with her conspiracy theories gullible and conspiracy theorists. Wait, that's not new. It's the left's MO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The idea is to not get it and there's a pretty good product out there that helps in that endeavor.

    You are swimming in circles .

    The proposition is that the Vaccination treatment for Shingles is problematic -- and that is a kind comment .

    It is not about believing that something works just because avaricious and historically criminal companies tell you that something works .All without full support evidence

    needing 10--15 years full safety testing etc .


    And as an ancillary comment --- is it true that a significant number of people contract Shingles directly from Covid type gene therapy treatments ? Looks like it !

    Just like Polio vaccines , for example , gave thousands of innocents Polio from taking the touted vaccine .Historical hard fact .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    You are swimming in circles .

    ...needing 10--15 years full safety testing etc .


    ...

    Just like Polio vaccines , for example , gave thousands of innocents Polio from taking the touted vaccine .Historical hard fact .

    I swim; you flail.

    was licensed by the FDA in 2006. This vaccine reduces the risk of developing shingles by 51% and PHN by 67%. It is given in one dose as a shot, and can be given in a doctor's office or pharmacy.
    Whew! Shingles vaccines in the pipeline for 15 years. Just cleared it!!! My mind is at rest; thank you. And now we have a better one which is even more effective. Yay Science!!!

    A bad batch of polio vaccine gave some polio. The problem was fixed and now... no polio! Yay Science!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I swim; you flail.



    Whew! Shingles vaccines in the pipeline for 15 years. Just cleared it!!! My mind is at rest; thank you. And now we have a better one which is even more effective. Yay Science!!!

    A bad batch of polio vaccine gave some polio. The problem was fixed and now... no polio! Yay Science!!!
    Speak of the devil ... so now covid vaccine can give me shingles? Hell, I should have known covid vaccine was somehow responsible

    The Cutter Incident
    Just a few weeks after the landmark press conference announcing success of the vaccine trials, an Idaho doctor reported a case of paralytic polio in a recently vaccinated girl. Over the next few weeks, similar reports trickled in to local health authorities. All involved a disturbing detail: paralysis began in the vaccinated arm, rather than in the legs as was more common.
    It soon emerged that most of the cases of paralytic polio occurred in children inoculated with vaccine produced by Cutter Laboratories in California.
    5/27/1955
    The Aftermath of the Cutter Incident
    A subcommittee of researchers and public health officials made several changes to poliovirus vaccine production methods in order to address the problems made evident by the Cutter disaster.
    They required manufacturers to test larger samples of each vaccine lot, to lengthen the time the vaccine was treated with formaldehyde, to use filters that would remove clumps of virus that might resist chemical inactivation, and to test the vaccine after bottling, among other changes.
    The vaccination program resumed, though some locations declined to participate because of potential risks from the vaccine.


    5/8/1955
    Polio Vaccination Suspended
    Leonard Scheele, MD, the U.S. Surgeon General, suspended the polio vaccination program in order to investigate the safety of all six manufacturers’ vaccine.

    The full review concluded that 11 people died from the vaccine and hundreds were paralyzed. Though the cause of the disaster was never proven, it is likely that certain production methods (which, it turns out, did not follow Salk’s instructions) resulted in a failure to completely kill the Type 1 (Mahoney) poliovirus in the vaccine.


    That would be "hundreds", not "thousands" of people were paralyzed and 11 died.
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    Default As a former victim of a rather SERIOUS case of Shingles...

    How bout everybody just shutting their pie-holes about this? If you've never been
    through the REAL AGONY of Shingles...count your blessings and be thankful. Otherwise, what the HELL DOES EVERYBODY talking about it have to do with it?
    UNLESS somebody has a cure...like Biden promised a cure for Cancer. NOBODY HERE has the power to change, correct, stop, or complain about something...just for the sake of Gamesmanship to see who has the best talking points.

    My doctor (I suppose) still has the NASTY photo's of my most serious case. So I can post them here for all of you if you like. Just talking about it as you have been is beyond being childish to me. Even if this offends or bothers some of you. WISH I COULD SHARE THAT PAIN....I WILL NEVER FORGET with all of you. Then maybe...you'll stop. YES, you have the right to speak as much as you want in any way you want. But...aren't there more important things to be worried about these days???
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    How bout everybody just shutting their pie-holes about this? If you've never been
    through the REAL AGONY of Shingles...count your blessings and be thankful. Otherwise, what the HELL DOES EVERYBODY talking about it have to do with it?
    UNLESS somebody has a cure...like Biden promised a cure for Cancer. NOBODY HERE has the power to change, correct, stop, or complain about something...just for the sake of Gamesmanship to see who has the best talking points.

    My doctor (I suppose) still has the NASTY photo's of my most serious case. So I can post them here for all of you if you like. Just talking about it as you have been is beyond being childish to me. Even if this offends or bothers some of you. WISH I COULD SHARE THAT PAIN....I WILL NEVER FORGET with all of you. Then maybe...you'll stop. YES, you have the right to speak as much as you want in any way you want. But...aren't there more important things to be worried about these days???
    Sorry you went through that.

    So would you advise a friend to get the vaccine for shingles?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Sorry you went through that.

    So would you advise a friend to get the vaccine for shingles?

    Thanks Kathianne.....YES. After my two shots over a 3 year period.
    THAT PAIN HASN'T COME BACK. And...the shots are FREE at Walgreens, Rite-aid, and even WALMARTS.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Thanks Kathianne.....YES. After my two shots over a 3 year period.
    THAT PAIN HASN'T COME BACK. And...the shots are FREE at Walgreens, Rite-aid, and even WALMARTS.
    Walgreens. I switched to using them because the one and only shot I remember getting in my life that the shot itself hurt was at WalMart.

    It was like the millionth flu shot, so I know it wasn't the vaccine itself. It WAS however not long after I got out of the hospital and any kind of trauma (as little as a finger poke) would knock the crap out of me. I'm not going back to test the theory that the clod with the syringe may or may not be at fault

    WalMart is, btw, offering all kinds of vaccinations. The one by my house, anyway.

    And thanks @icansayit.
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    [QUOTE=fj1200;99352

    A bad batch of polio vaccine gave some polio. The problem was fixed and now... no polio! Yay Science!!![/QUOTE]


    Do you ever ----- DYOR ?

    The Polio facts are beyond dispute . And when you examine Polio data it had been on a huge downward trend for the decade prior to Vaxxing .

    You Gullibles are so derelict over intellectual matters . Mandela effect on Speed .

    You must learn to look at facts and not MSM fiction or you perhaps inventing material . Albeit not deliberately .

    Try another disease !! You failed totally with Shingles and Polio with what are tantamount to Conspiracy Theories

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