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    Default Moderna Won’t Share COVID-19 Vaccine Formula

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    UPDATED 2:08 PM PT – Tuesday, October 12, 2021


    Pharmaceutical giant Moderna has refused to disclose the formula of its coronavirus vaccine. According to Moderna chairman, the company would keep the vaccine formula private in order to support its own production of the vaccine.
    The official added Moderna had no plans to share the vaccine formula with anyone moving forward. Earlier this month, Sweden, Denmark and Finland banned the use of the Moderna vaccine for young individuals due to risks of deadly heart inflammation.
    The company has downplayed reports of such risks.
    Moderna Chairman Noubar Afeyan went on to say, “while I think that people say well IP is not enough, you should put more etcetera between our scaled up production, our ability to execute rapidly and at full scale, and making our IP available from a patent infringement stand point we think we are doing everything we can to help this pandemic.”
    The debate of vaccine formulas comes after Project Veritas reported of alleged use of aborted fetus cells in the Pfizer vaccine. Meanwhile, Moderna has admitted the COVID-19 vaccine was its only commercial product.
    https://www.oann.com/moderna-wont-sh...ccine-formula/
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    How can there be informed consent?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


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    The undiluted arrogance of the Deep State knows no bounds apparently .

    But the Sheeple do not have access to this type of info ( thanks , corrupt MSM ) and do not seem to have the brains to question the Puppet Masters let alone challenge and

    then obliterate them .

    What a mess .

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    Intellectual Property protections. :shrug:
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    So a vaccine is supposed to save us all ...
    and millions of people can be "legally" to coerced to TAKE IT.
    Because it MUST be done to SAVE LIVES!
    Putting the drug into their bodies.
    At the threat/promise of the lost of millions of educations, jobs and professions.

    But the Pharmaceutical company that has the supposed LIFE SAVING vaccine is allowed to keep the formula secret.
    And Not share it with the rest of the world... to SAVE LIVES!
    because THE LAW says it's their intellectual property.
    Because... they might loose a few billion?
    Somehow They can NOT and should not be coerced into giving up the formula?

    Is it just me that sees a problem here?

    We can be legally coerced to take it, but they can't be legally coerced to give it away?

    Almost seems like the Pharmaceutical companies are making the rules here.
    Last edited by revelarts; 10-13-2021 at 09:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    So a vaccine is supposed to save us all ...
    and millions of people can be "legally" to coerced to TAKE IT.
    Because it MUST be done to SAVE LIVES!
    Putting the drug into their bodies.
    At the threat/promise of the lost of millions of educations, jobs and professions.

    But the Pharmaceutical company that has the supposed LIVE SAVING vaccine is allowed to keep the formula secret.
    And Not share it with the rest of the world... to SAVE LIVES!
    because THE LAW says it's their intellectual property.
    Because... they might loose a few billion?
    Somehow They can NOT and should not be coerced into giving up the formula?

    Is it just me that sees a problem here?

    We can be legally coerced to take it, but they can't be legally coerced to give it away?

    Almost seems like the Pharmaceutical companies are making the rules here.
    I'm with FJ. If I was a pharma company that had exactly one vaccine on the market, I'm going to patent the formula and I'm not sharing. A reasonable business decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I'm with FJ. If I was a pharma company that had exactly one vaccine on the market, I'm going to patent the formula and I'm not sharing. A reasonable business decision.
    fine.
    If they've got the right to keep their property out of the hands of others.
    Even if it would supposedly stop people from dying.

    Then i've got the right to keep their property out of my body.
    Even if it would supposedly stop people from dying.
    WITHOUT consequence or coercion to the contrary btw.
    Last edited by revelarts; 10-13-2021 at 09:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    fine.
    If they've got the right to keep their property out of the hands of others.
    Even if it would supposedly stop people from dying.

    Then i've got the right to keep their property out of my body.
    Even if it would supposedly stop people from dying.
    WITHOUT consequence or coercion to the contrary btw.
    I have never said otherwise. You're bowing up to the wrong person. My only stance on the matter is if you ar going to fight City Hall, quit the incessant whining about the consequences.

    I wish you peeps would vet our politicians half as well as you have covid vaccines. While we're at it, I wish you were even half as vocal about China's responsibility, and actually investigate Fauci and his role in it. You want to talk "experimenting". Maybe if Fauci, China their ilk weren't experimenting with weaponizing biology there'd be no covid-19 nor vaccines for it.

    Hold the right people responsible instead of letting THEM walk and carry on as they always have. The vaccine is a result of the problem, not the problem itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I have never said otherwise. You're bowing up to the wrong person. My only stance on the matter is if you ar going to fight City Hall, quit the incessant whining about the consequences.
    Big Phrama has ZERO consequences for keeping their property
    I should should have ZERO consequences for keeping my body free of it.

    Not sure why you want me and others to have (still yet unnamed) consequences but not vaccine companies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I wish you peeps would vet our politicians half as well as you have covid vaccines. While we're at it, I wish you were even half as vocal about China's responsibility, and actually investigate Fauci and his role in it. You want to talk "experimenting". Maybe if Fauci, China their ilk weren't experimenting with weaponizing biology there'd be no covid-19 nor vaccines for it.

    Hold the right people responsible instead of letting THEM walk and carry on as they always have. The vaccine is a result of the problem, not the problem itself.
    I haven't vetted the politicians on issues like this?
    I think you've probably missed a lot of my old post Gunny.

    As far as China goes,
    As far a i can tell China didn't lockdown the U.S. for nearly a year, China isn't telling me to take a vaccine or my kid can't go to college and i can't keep a job. China isn't firing thousands of nurses, etc. etc..

    China didn't even fund or start the research that apparently made the virus, that's Faucii and other western scientist and Funders. Trust me i'm keeping track and so are many others.
    getting ALL THAT info pass people who simply want me to mask up and take the shot,
    who think I and others like me are MORE of problem than the Chinese or Faucii is not an easy task Gunny.
    Be nice if we had your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Intellectual Property protections. :shrug:
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    So a vaccine is supposed to save us all ...
    and millions of people can be "legally" to coerced to TAKE IT.
    Because it MUST be done to SAVE LIVES!
    Putting the drug into their bodies.
    At the threat/promise of the lost of millions of educations, jobs and professions.

    But the Pharmaceutical company that has the supposed LIFE SAVING vaccine is allowed to keep the formula secret.
    And Not share it with the rest of the world... to SAVE LIVES!
    because THE LAW says it's their intellectual property.
    Because... they might loose a few billion?
    Somehow They can NOT and should not be coerced into giving up the formula?

    Is it just me that sees a problem here?

    We can be legally coerced to take it, but they can't be legally coerced to give it away?

    Almost seems like the Pharmaceutical companies are making the rules here.
    Weren't you concerned about lost liberties an odd number of threads ago? Companies invest to create vaccines to get a return; it's worked pretty well so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Weren't you concerned about lost liberties an odd number of threads ago? Companies invest to create vaccines to get a return; it's worked pretty well so far.

    It has only operated through deceit , lies , damned lies and criminal practise .

    Is that what you really want and applaud ?

    Seems like Conspiracy to Critical Thinkers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juicer66 View Post
    It has only operated through deceit , lies , damned lies and criminal practise .

    Is that what you really want and applaud ?

    Seems like Conspiracy to Critical Thinkers .
    Even the whack-a-doodles think you're whack-a-doodle.

    Patent law is Constitutional; and one of the few areas of law actually in the Constitution. To complain about it now is hypocrisy.
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    2 issues IMO.

    Many medications, that when they first come out, sell only their brand and don't share, for 20 years. Then after they share and all of the generics become available.
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    ^All according to current Federal law.
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