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    Default Trump's call for Republicans not to vote in 2022 and 2024 is a Mistake

    You may have heard that Trump has recently called for Republican voters to not vote in the 2022 or 2024 elections unless the GOP pushes the issue about election fraud in the 2020 election.

    This is a huge mistake on Trump's part, in my opinion. The 2020 election is over. He needs to drop the past and worry more about the present and the future.

    We desperately need in 2022 to take away the Dem majorities in at least one of the houses of Congress, if not both, before the Dems critically damage our democracy, our standing in the world, and the global economy. We may be majorly and irreparably screwed up as a nation before 2024 if the Dems have both houses of Congress past 2022.

    Even aside from that, I think it is best if Trump stays away from running for President and focuses more on helping someone else run for President. Whoever it is will still automatically get attacked from the media, but the media won't be able to help itself from mostly attacking Trump, more that the person running. It might result is something actually resembling a democratic election, accidentally.
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    Wonderful. Probably just enough loyal followers to split the GOP vote when the next 2 elections are pretty much theirs to lose. This proves a couple of things that have floated out there as baseless, leftwingnut accusations:

    This IS about Trump, not what's best for the Nation

    This IS divisive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Wonderful. Probably just enough loyal followers to split the GOP vote when the next 2 elections are pretty much theirs to lose. This proves a couple of things that have floated out there as baseless, leftwingnut accusations:

    This IS about Trump, not what's best for the Nation

    This IS divisive.
    That's not what his listeners would say, he's just fighting for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    That's not what his listeners would say, he's just fighting for them.
    No. Fighting for "me" means getting his ass in gear NOW for next election and start paying attention to politics instead of not getting his way like a toddler and crying over spilled milk.
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    Had to run to the bus stop for Granddaughter #2 Seriously, what exactly is he trying to do/think is going to happen? Someone's going to come out and state, Oops, you're right. We're kicking Biden out and reinstalling you

    That would be a Godsend for Biden and do nothing for Trump. Might help the country if he could keep his mind on business.

    The other thing to look at is this: IF he should win 2024, does he plan on spending 2024-2028 trying to prove he got screwed in 2020? Doesn't sound like much help for the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    You may have heard that Trump has recently called for Republican voters to not vote in the 2022 or 2024 elections unless the GOP pushes the issue about election fraud in the 2020 election.

    This is a huge mistake on Trump's part, in my opinion. The 2020 election is over. He needs to drop the past and worry more about the present and the future.

    We desperately need in 2022 to take away the Dem majorities in at least one of the houses of Congress, if not both, before the Dems critically damage our democracy, our standing in the world, and the global economy. We may be majorly and irreparably screwed up as a nation before 2024 if the Dems have both housed of Congress past 2022.

    Even aside from that, I think it is best if Trump stays away from running for President and focuses more on helping someone else run for President. Whoever it is will still automatically get attacked from the media, but the media won't be able to help itself from mostly attacking Trump, more that the person running. It might result is something actually resembling a democratic election, accidentally.
    Until the gutless GOP stands up to Trump this insanity will continue. It is that simple. The GOP deserves to self destruct if it will not confront this madman. He never had any respect for any Republicans. This was and will always be about his own ego and self and his narcissistic personality disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika-El View Post
    Until the gutless GOP stands up to Trump this insanity will continue. It is that simple. The GOP deserves to self destruct if it will not confront this madman. He never had any respect for any Republicans. This was and will always be about his own ego and self and his narcissistic personality disorder.
    Don't stop there. The GOP won't be okay until it stands up to the left. The way I see it, the Democratic Party is the enemy of the US citizens. The GOP is the enemy of the GOP.

    It's too bad the bureaucracy all but dooms any hope for a third party. I'd like to have one that has common sense and actually works for the benefit of the Nation and its citizens.

    We'll see what happens with Trump. I'd like to say this little incident is an eye opener but I've been fooled on that one before. Sometimes obvious just isn't enough.
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    Default IMO for what it's worth...

    I have a feeling Trump is just warning all of his followers..."IT'S NOT ABOUT ME!"

    But rather...he is actually saying: "THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOU, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE."

    "Depending on ME (Trump) to come to the rescue to SAVE AMERICA can't be done that easily."

    As Trump has always warned. "The DEMS are strong...because THEY ALWAYS STICK TOGETHER."

    He knows...the ELITES from both parties, like Obama, Hillary, Nancy, Bernie, Schumer and the FOUR SQUAD SOCIALIST IDIOTS...are actually stronger than all of the NEVER-TRUMPER...RINO'S like Graham, and the other McCain Wishy Washy Gang of Hypocrites.

    The DEMS use FEAR....and now DONALD IS USING FEAR. America's Future Depends On Americans.
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    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    I have a feeling Trump is just warning all of his followers..."IT'S NOT ABOUT ME!"

    But rather...he is actually saying: "THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOU, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE."

    "Depending on ME (Trump) to come to the rescue to SAVE AMERICA can't be done that easily."

    As Trump has always warned. "The DEMS are strong...because THEY ALWAYS STICK TOGETHER."

    He knows...the ELITES from both parties, like Obama, Hillary, Nancy, Bernie, Schumer and the FOUR SQUAD SOCIALIST IDIOTS...are actually stronger than all of the NEVER-TRUMPER...RINO'S like Graham, and the other McCain Wishy Washy Gang of Hypocrites.

    The DEMS use FEAR....and now DONALD IS USING FEAR. America's Future Depends On Americans.
    I voted for Trump twice. I supported him while he was President. I even agree the system itself was rigged against him and one of the reasons he lost. Voter fraud could be a reason but so far there's been no "A-HA! GOTCHA" smoking gun to prove anything. NOTHING he does is going to reverse the results of the election.

    What he IS doing NOW is driving a wedge right through the middle of the right by telling Republicans to not vote in 2022 and 2024 unless they're on his train. Is he missing that those Republicans/conservatives/independents that don't support him DIDN'T vote in 2020? See how THAT worked?

    I'll tell you right now he can't win with just Trump supporters. But his telling his supporters not to vote means no one on the right can. That's NOT thinking about the country first.

    I know the Dems game, as well as most anyone. I also know that a divided party can't beat it. Look who's President now. The Dems use fear. Is that worse than strong arming anyone that disagrees with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I voted for Trump twice. I supported him while he was President. I even agree the system itself was rigged against him and one of the reasons he lost. Voter fraud could be a reason but so far there's been no "A-HA! GOTCHA" smoking gun to prove anything. NOTHING he does is going to reverse the results of the election.

    What he IS doing NOW is driving a wedge right through the middle of the right by telling Republicans to not vote in 2022 and 2024 unless they're on his train. Is he missing that those Republicans/conservatives/independents that don't support him DIDN'T vote in 2020? See how THAT worked?

    I'll tell you right now he can't win with just Trump supporters. But his telling his supporters not to vote means no one on the right can. That's NOT thinking about the country first.

    I know the Dems game, as well as most anyone. I also know that a divided party can't beat it. Look who's President now. The Dems use fear. Is that worse than strong arming anyone that disagrees with you?
    You're assuming his supporters need him to tell them to stay home. And I disagree that a stolen election is "spilled milk"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    You may have heard that Trump has recently called for Republican voters to not vote in the 2022 or 2024 elections unless the GOP pushes the issue about election fraud in the 2020 election.

    This is a huge mistake on Trump's part, in my opinion. The 2020 election is over. He needs to drop the past and worry more about the present and the future.

    We desperately need in 2022 to take away the Dem majorities in at least one of the houses of Congress, if not both, before the Dems critically damage our democracy, our standing in the world, and the global economy. We may be majorly and irreparably screwed up as a nation before 2024 if the Dems have both housed of Congress past 2022.

    Even aside from that, I think it is best if Trump stays away from running for President and focuses more on helping someone else run for President. Whoever it is will still automatically get attacked from the media, but the media won't be able to help itself from mostly attacking Trump, more that the person running. It might result is something actually resembling a democratic election, accidentally.
    From day one they/he should have been working on the many issues related to our elections, towards helping mainly the folks in 2022... then onto 2024.

    But to tell republican voters not to vote is ridiculous and asinine. The time to let go of the '20 election fraud stuff was a long time back. It's simply not changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    You're assuming his supporters need him to tell them to stay home. And I disagree that a stolen election is "spilled milk"
    There was no stolen election. There was a petty man-child who couldn't let go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    You're assuming his supporters need him to tell them to stay home. And I disagree that a stolen election is "spilled milk"
    Water under the bridge? Over and done? Half your platoon got killed. If you want to kill the other half, stay in place. Or MOVE FORWARD. Call it whatever you want. Reality in politics in this country, especially when the left is in control, is NOTHING is going to be done that is going to matter.

    Much as I try not to state this, I TOLD YOU SO. Back in 2016-17 when I saw how the Dems/left were acting I stated "Do something about election accountability NOW or the Dems will do whatever they have to to steal the next election and there will be no reelection".

    Looky what happened By my reasoning -- just an old, retired Gunny who isn't getting paid a dime to figure out this in your face obvious crap to me -- NO ONE getting paid to know this shit can figure out something THIS simple?

    Who is more to blame? The Dems for acting like Dems? Or the Republican't's who know they are going to act like Dems doing NOTHING proactive to stop it? I expect thieves to steal and liars to lie. At what point in time has the GOP ever accomplished anything REACTING to what was obviously coming? The left's MO -- and Obama was a master at it -- do what we want and make the right try to undo it.

    Yet time after time it plays out the same.

    People who consider supporting Trump, or any other individual, more important than who is going to represent the only viable party we're stuck with as possibly the next President of the United States need to reexamine their priorities. The Dems usually win the cult of personality battle. I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for Trump's. I must not be alone. Look who our current Loser in Chief is. Enough people preferred an empty skull to Trump that the former is sitting in the WH.

    I may as well just write off the mid-terms and 2024 now and save myself the internal turmoil. Between some heavy-handed laws that aren't going to float and the cult of Trump, the right is going to lose the best chance to win the Presidency its had since Ronald Reagan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    There was no stolen election. There was a petty man-child who couldn't let go.
    Disagree. You just don't want it to be true, but it is. For the millionth time I will make a simple point: You let me count my votes 5 days after yours are locked, sealed and done, I'll win every time too.

    Have they audited any of the states that pulled THAT? No. That elephant in the room doesn't count

    Trump acting like Al Gore hasn't helped a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Disagree. You just don't want it to be true, but it is. For the millionth time I will make a simple point: You let me count my votes 5 days after yours are locked, sealed and done, I'll win every time too.

    Have they audited any of the states that pulled THAT? No. That elephant in the room doesn't count

    Trump acting like Al Gore hasn't helped a thing.
    The best cure for the last election is to get in people that make sure the states implement changes. That won't happen if they throw away that chance.


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