Bush was AWOL

[Joe Steel]

Dan Rather's recently filed suit of CBS will refocus attention on Bush's military service and the way wingnuts distorted Rather's reporting on it. Here's a review:

Bush was AWOL

The entire wingnut objection to Rather's story centered on allegedly forged letters used to document a few details. While they never were proven to be forged, the fact that Rather couldn't prove they were authentic became the only aspect of the story the media discussed. Never mentioned were the mounds of unquestionable evidence illustrating Bush's dishonorable military service. Let's hope Rather can prove his point in court and that that leads to an unbiased scrutiny of the facts.

[jimnyc]

Well now we know it must be factual, it was stated so on Dailykos! LOL

[PostmodernProphet]

allegedly forged letters

????....wow......some folks have a high resistance to truth, don't they......

[Joe Steel]

????....wow......some folks have a high resistance to truth, don't they......

Are you admitting it?

No one ever saw the documents. How could have anything been proven?

[PostmodernProphet]

Are you admitting it?

No one ever saw the documents. How could have anything been proven?

so the evidence about the documents being printed on a computer printer that didn't exist at the time wasn't convincing to you?

[Joe Steel]

so the evidence about the documents being printed on a computer printer that didn't exist at the time wasn't convincing to you?

It was interesting but certainly not conclusive. All we ever saw were digital images of the documents. They're easily manipulated.

Secondly, the premise of the argument, that the documents could not have been created at the time of the affair, is debatable. One IBM technician said IBM sold equipment which could have been used.

Nothing has been proven.

[Sir Evil]

Nothing has been proven.

Nothing has been proven? what are ya kidden me?

What has been proven is that now Bush nearing the end of his second term you are creating threads call "Bush was AWOL" showing that you are still reaching for something to show your disapproval, how boring.

[truthmatters]

I think its more of a statement on our current main stream media. the document in question was only a tiny piece of the evidence that Bush did not fulfill his service to the national guard. There are witnesses who saw him elsewhere for extended chunks of time. There is no evidence he was in Arkansas were he was supposed to be. Our media protected Bush from scrutiny on his service in the military buy saying one questionable document destroyed all the other evidence and fired Rather to show how a reporter would be treated if they tried to harm Bush.If they would fire someone like Rather they would fire ANYONE who dared report anything the corporate heads did not like.

When was the last time you saw REAL investigative journalism on the subject of politics? It is only done with people like pedophiles. Some of you are young and dont remember but in the past if you had dirt on you you did not run for high office. Now the republican field is full of people who have had many divorces and affairs and the Dem field have all got clean records(remember Hillary did not have an affair she forgave an affair). There is a reason for this new situation. The reason is they will go after a Dems past and will ignore an Rs past.

[Sir Evil]

When was the last time you saw REAL investigative journalism on the subject of politics? It is only done with people like pedophiles. Some of you are young and dont remember but in the past if you had dirt on you you did not run for high office. Now the republican field is full of people who have had many divorces and affairs and the Dem field have all got clean records(remember Hillary did not have an affair she forgave an affair). There is a reason for this new situation. The reason is they will go after a Dems past and will ignore an Rs past.

When was the last time you have done some "REAL" inestigative searching on the topic? Seems that would be more appropiate after such a statement. Also seems you investigative searches turns up a whole lot of one sided dirt, very usefull for you though.

Politicians are all crooked, there is plenty of dirt to go around on both sides, and it's been that way for along time.

[truthmatters]

When was the last time you have done some "REAL" inestigative searching on the topic? Seems that would be more appropiate after such a statement. Also seems you investigative searches turns up a whole lot of one sided dirt, very usefull for you though.

Politicians are all crooked, there is plenty of dirt to go around on both sides, and it's been that way for along time.

Look at the differance between Kerry's service and Bush's service and how the press treated them.

The sad thing is its obvious to the rest of the world but for some reason 28% of our population cant seem to see through the mist.




Tell me why the press seems completely uninterested in the Republican fields ex wives? If Hillary had an ex husband would you see him in the press being interviewed?

[jimnyc]

I think its more of a statement on our current main stream media. the document in question was only a tiny piece of the evidence that Bush did not fulfill his service to the national guard. There are witnesses who saw him elsewhere for extended chunks of time. There is no evidence he was in Arkansas were he was supposed to be. Our media protected Bush from scrutiny on his service in the military buy saying one questionable document destroyed all the other evidence and fired Rather to show how a reporter would be treated if they tried to harm Bush.If they would fire someone like Rather they would fire ANYONE who dared report anything the corporate heads did not like.

When was the last time you saw REAL investigative journalism on the subject of politics? It is only done with people like pedophiles. Some of you are young and dont remember but in the past if you had dirt on you you did not run for high office. Now the republican field is full of people who have had many divorces and affairs and the Dem field have all got clean records(remember Hillary did not have an affair she forgave an affair). There is a reason for this new situation. The reason is they will go after a Dems past and will ignore an Rs past.

And yet you'll feel free to quote sites like mediamatters and claim their words as gospel! I'm sure what they're doing is "real investigative journalism" - NOT!

[Sir Evil]

Look at the differance between Kerry's service and Bush's service and how the press treated them.

The sad thing is its obvious to the rest of the world but for some reason 28% of our population cant seem to see through the mist.

What because Kerry received his metal in vietnam because of his scratch, and then came back to preach bad things about his fellow soldiers? What is more sad then that is people like yourself who take a one sided view. Whatever tidbit of crap that you can find to try to defend the perfect persona of the left, what a joke! and then have the nerve to say the damn near the majority see things the way you do.

Kerry was a turd from day one, he made it a close race, and bowed out gracefully I'll give him that but no way that guy does anything worthy as a president. Had the dems been able to produce some decent candidates it may of been different but they did'nt.

[truthmatters]

What because Kerry received his metal in vietnam because of his scratch, and then came back to preach bad things about his fellow soldiers? What is more sad then that is people like yourself who take a one sided view. Whatever tidbit of crap that you can find to try to defend the perfect persona of the left, what a joke! and then have the nerve to say the damn near the majority see things the way you do.

Kerry was a turd from day one, he made it a close race, and bowed out gracefully I'll give him that but no way that guy does anything worthy as a president. Had the dems been able to produce some decent candidates it may of been different but they did'nt.

But if you ask his men( the ones who really served with him not the phoneys who pretended they did) who actually served with him that is not the story you get.

I just dont understand how you people ca talk about supporting the troops and them you slam the ones who you dont politically agree with like its nothing.

How do you square that in your mind?

[jimnyc]

But if you ask his men( the ones who really served with him not the phoneys who pretended they did) who actually served with him that is not the story you get.

I just dont understand how you people ca talk about supporting the troops and them you slam the ones who you dont politically agree with like its nothing.

How do you square that in your mind?

Are you saying Kerry never received a purple heart for an injury that amounted to a scratch? Are you saying Kerry did not return from Vietnam and condemn his fellow soldiers? Proof from the doctor who treated his injury has been posted here several times. And it's a recorded fact from congress when Kerry addressed them with his comments.

That's how it's squared, dumbass.

[truthmatters]

And yet you'll feel free to quote sites like mediamatters and claim their words as gospel! I'm sure what they're doing is "real investigative journalism" - NOT!

Where have I claimed their wordss are gospel?

I quoted MM yesterday because they had a tape of Rush talking. The tape is why I posted them.

Funny thing is I have never caught them lying about anything (that does not mean I consider them gospel) but if you caught them in a lie I would recognise it.

The tape is Rush in full context.