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    Default Which is worse Scientology, Communism or Islam?

    I'm not a big fan of studying the particulars of dysfunctional ideologies, but rather identifying which common dysfunctional qualities feed them. While I see some of you focusing on Islam, I notice the damage caused by those who have been conditioned to lose their ability to think critically. This happens under Communism, Corporate America, Islam, Scientology or any religious cult with an authoritarian boss. How do you treat those who are missing the ability to think critically? Can you really hate someone for being mentally maimed? Unfortunately, it's this type of person who does the "dirty work" of their bosses. They simply don't have the wherewithal to question what they have been told to do.

    It's hard to describe, but often there's this zombie-like trait that presents itself. This type of person isn't argumentative or even unpleasant.

    One memorable example: There was this sugar cane juice stand in Cuba with ice-cold, perfectly harvested juice for 4 cents USD per glass. It had this annoying photo of Fidel Castro prominently displayed. When no one else was around, I asked about this horrid photo. I discovered that displaying such means not being shut down by an inspector. When a bureaucrat's boss wants to shut you down, they can cite a couple of flies near your dirty dishes as "fly infestation". It's the same story all over. If you ask a proprietor with no one else around whether they actually support the Communist party, the most common answer is "I never gave it much thought". That's how it works. They just obey without giving it much thought.
    Last edited by tailfins; 11-29-2021 at 01:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    I'm not a big fan of studying the particulars of dysfunctional ideologies, but rather identifying which common dysfunctional qualities feed them. While I see some of you focusing on Islam, I notice the damage caused by those who have been conditioned to lose their ability to think critically. This happens under Communism, Corporate America, Islam, Scientology or any religious cult with an authoritarian boss. How do you treat those who are missing the ability to think critically? Can you really hate someone for being mentally maimed? Unfortunately, it's this type of person who does the "dirty work" of their bosses. They simply don't have the wherewithal to question what they have been told to do.

    It's hard to describe, but often there's this zombie-like trait that presents itself. This type of person isn't argumentative or even unpleasant.

    One memorable example: There was this sugar cane juice stand in Cuba with ice-cold, perfectly harvested juice for 4 cents USD per glass. It had this annoying photo of Fidel Castro prominently displayed. When no one else was around, I asked about this horrid photo. I discovered that displaying such means not being shut down by an inspector. When a bureaucrat's boss wants to shut you down, they can cite a couple of flies near your dirty dishes as "fly infestation". It's the same story all over. If you ask a proprietor with no one else around whether they actually support the Communist party, the most common answer is "I never gave it much thought". That's how it works. They just obey without giving it much thought.
    It takes more energy to resist than to comply. And, it's hard to maintain critical thinking when all available info is propagandized.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    I'm not a big fan of studying the particulars of dysfunctional ideologies, but rather identifying which common dysfunctional qualities feed them. While I see some of you focusing on Islam, I notice the damage caused by those who have been conditioned to lose their ability to think critically. This happens under Communism, Corporate America, Islam, Scientology or any religious cult with an authoritarian boss. How do you treat those who are missing the ability to think critically? Can you really hate someone for being mentally maimed? Unfortunately, it's this type of person who does the "dirty work" of their bosses. They simply don't have the wherewithal to question what they have been told to do.

    It's hard to describe, but often there's this zombie-like trait that presents itself. This type of person isn't argumentative or even unpleasant.

    One memorable example: There was this sugar cane juice stand in Cuba with ice-cold, perfectly harvested juice for 4 cents USD per glass. It had this annoying photo of Fidel Castro prominently displayed. When no one else was around, I asked about this horrid photo. I discovered that displaying such means not being shut down by an inspector. When a bureaucrat's boss wants to shut you down, they can cite a couple of flies near your dirty dishes as "fly infestation". It's the same story all over. If you ask a proprietor with no one else around whether they actually support the Communist party, the most common answer is "I never gave it much thought". That's how it works. They just obey without giving it much thought.
    Does it not depend on which society you are brought up in and what it teaches you is right and wrong? I've noticed most if not all societies never give much thought to the fact that right and wrong is not inherent in Man. It is taught. Society and government are constructs of Man, not nature. And we are more than willing to kill you over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Does it not depend on which society you are brought up in and what it teaches you is right and wrong? I've noticed most if not all societies never give much thought to the fact that right and wrong is not inherent in Man. It is taught. Society and government are constructs of Man, not nature. And we are more than willing to kill you over it.
    So true.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

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    Communism


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    Scientology. Least worst.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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    You mean like many people wearing mask when the authority tells them to... without any critical thinking or questions and being insistent that everyone else comply as well?
    or taking experimental medications?

    or... (apologies ahead of time..but it's must be said)
    A bunch of people going to foreign countries they never heard of to kill other people on orders without questions or critical thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Scientology. Least worst.
    No, communism is worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyFriend View Post
    No, communism is worse.
    I only said that Scientology was the least worst. At least they don't use the power of the state to suppress the individual. Pretty much all communist countries do but only some Islamic states do.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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