Burial costs covered for Canadians killed by approved vaccines

[revelarts]

Burial costs covered for Canadians killed by approved vaccines

https://torontosun.com/news/national...roved-vaccines

[Gunny]

What's NOT covered for Canadians?

[fj1200]

I guess they're expecting 0 because 75mm won't even cover the new bureaucracy.

The department has budgeted $75 million for all claims but said it was unclear how many submissions there could be. Management of the program is contracted to RCGT Consulting.

[revelarts]

I guess they're expecting 0 because 75mm won't even cover the new bureaucracy.

sadly they are going to need a lot more cash

[fj1200]

sadly they are going to need a lot more cash

I'll take the under.

[revelarts]

I'll take the under.

Here's one websites that list comments from people who are reporting a few of these "RARE" vaccine adverse effects and deaths.

https://www.theysayitsrare.com

[Gunny]

Here's one websites that list comments from people who are reporting a few of these "RARE" vaccine adverse effects and deaths.

https://www.theysayitsrare.com

according to VAERS, the odds are 0.00-something (I'm not going to look it up because I don't really give a crap ) of dying from the vaccine. The reporting requirements are a joke. If you die and have been vaccinated --

For someone who doesn't believe anything anyone (especially government) says, you sure are willing to buy off on what you want to. Just sayin'

Canada represents just about everything I never want the US to be. I'd as soon my body be tossed on a bonfire as the government get one more finger into its disposition. I'm certainly not leaving anything behind that these whackjobs can somehow use as a museum display, displace, and or otherwise touch. They can play with the ashes

[fj1200]

Here's one websites that list comments from people who are reporting a few of these "RARE" vaccine adverse effects and deaths.

https://www.theysayitsrare.com

I'll guess it's not a site that has a robust fact checking system in place.

[revelarts]

I'll guess it's not a site that has a robust fact checking system in place.

I guessed before i posted it that you'd dismiss it out of hand.

[revelarts]

I'll guess it's not a site that has a robust fact checking system in place.

But here's something for you consider.
Many Drs, the Pharma corps and gov't agencies aren't recording adverse events and death from vaccines AT ALL.
and on purpose
so it looks like we as lay folks we need to take a robust look at reports from various places to begin to get a realistic picture.

Unless you just want to believe the vaccine are safe and not hear any bad news... unless the "officials" tell us.




She is just one of many people who presented similar evidence to her state rep.

[Gunny]

But here's something for you consider.
Many Drs, the Pharma corps and gov't agencies aren't recording adverse events and death from vaccines AT ALL.
and on purpose
so it looks like we as lay folks we need to take a robust look at reports from various places to begin to get a realistic picture.

Unless you just want to believe the vaccine are safe and not hear any bad news... unless the "officials" tell us.




She is just one of many people who presented similar evidence to her state rep.

You have a point in the bolded text. You should consider considering your own point.

[revelarts]

Gloucester resident dies within hours of receiving Pfizer vaccine
https://www.wtkr.com/news/gloucester...pfizer-vaccine

Posted at 12:48 PM, Feb 03, 2021
and last updated 1:23 PM, Feb 04, 2021

GLOUCESTER, Va. - "She could bellow from the bottom of her soul," said Lisa Jones.
58-year-old Gloucester resident Drene Keyes was a gifted singer, a mother and grandmother of six.
"She was such a loving and generous person," said Jones.
Unexpectedly, Lisa lost her mother on Saturday within a couple of hours after Keyes received the Pfizer vaccine in Warsaw.

"Right before she left, I was helping her put her shoes on," she said.
Keyes had diabetes, sleep apnea and was obese. Her job made her eligible for the first dose. So, on Saturday, Keyes got the Pfizer vaccine and spent 15 minutes in the mandatory observation period.
The coworker she was with said she was trying to get in the car and said, "Something is not right. Something's not right."

Doctors later on told Jones her mother couldn't breathe and started vomiting. They did administer an EpiPen, CPR and oxygen as well.
She was quickly rushed to VCU Tappahannock Hospital.
"They tried to remove fluid from her lungs. They called it 'flash pulmonary edema,' and doctors told me that it can be caused by anaphylaxis," said Jones. "The doctor told me that often during anaphylaxis, chemicals are released inside of a person's body and can cause this to happen."

Anaphylaxis is a severe adverse life-threatening allergy reaction that rarely occurs after vaccination.

According to the CDC, in the United States as of January 19 there were 45 cases of anaphylaxsis with the Pfizer shot out of the several million given.

The risks were also spelled out on the paperwork Keyes received prior to her shot.
"My mom was wanting to protect herself, and it did not turn out that way," said Jones.
Jones believes more research needs to be done, especially for those with underlying health issues.
"Why are we allowing people with underlying conditions to be guinea pigs for a vaccine that is still in clinical trials and emergency use?" Jones questioned.
She is hoping this serves as a warning for people to see their doctors and be pre-screened prior to being vaccinated.
"The pain my family feels from this unexpected loss should not be repeated for others," said Jones.
An autopsy and toxicology tests are being performed on Keyes this week.

you'll have to take my word for this but i followed this story and the last i heard was that the family said that the phrama company never got back to them, and the state medical examiner would not make an official ruling that the vaccine was the cause of death.

take that into consideration when you read the above that says "According to the CDC, in the United States as of January 19 there were 45 cases of anaphylaxsis with the Pfizer shot out of the several million given."
If it's NOT reported OFFICIALLY then it's not counted folks.

Anyway based on the info here.
would you say that the vaccine caused her death or was it REALLY because she was diabetic etc?
Are diabetics told NOT to get the vaccines?

if your family member died within hours of taking the vaccine would you think that MAYBE the vaccine had something to do with it?
Is that crazy?

[fj1200]

I guessed before i posted it that you'd dismiss it out of hand.

It's not a question of dismissing out of hand.

But here's something for you consider.
Many Drs, the Pharma corps and gov't agencies aren't recording adverse events and death from vaccines AT ALL.
and on purpose
so it looks like we as lay folks we need to take a robust look at reports from various places to begin to get a realistic picture.

Unless you just want to believe the vaccine are safe and not hear any bad news... unless the "officials" tell us.

She is just one of many people who presented similar evidence to her state rep.

It's more of a recognition that there are plenty of sources that are not interested in presenting all of the facts and in some cases not really presenting any facts; looking at you other thread. And in some cases presenting facts which are not really facts that speak to the actual issues. Having an issue in close proximity to being vaccinated is not necessarily evidence to what is being presented.

And FWIW I believe adverse reactions should be investigated and I would hope that you'd believe that those reactions shouldn't automatically be evidence as a reaction to the vaccine.

[revelarts]

It's not a question of dismissing out of hand.

It's more of a recognition that there are plenty of sources that are not interested in presenting all of the facts and in some cases not really presenting any facts; looking at you other thread. And in some cases presenting facts which are not really facts that speak to the actual issues. Having an issue in close proximity to being vaccinated is not necessarily evidence to what is being presented.

And FWIW I believe adverse reactions should be investigated and I would hope that you'd believe that those reactions shouldn't automatically be evidence as a reaction to the vaccine.

I've got no problem with what you SAY here but you don't seem to have that critical view of the official records and you just snipe and nitpick all unofficial reports as false until proven (by what you won't say) or confirmed by "official" sources Gov't, MSM or Big Pharma.

As far as my approach. I'll say frankly, since i am a bit skeptical of ALL sources it's a mix of intuitive review of the data available and common sense review of evidence and motives.

Look if I'm walking through the woods in a State Park and see people grabbing their ankles/legs in pain and i see snakes hustling back into the brush away from them over and over again, I'm not going to say ... well i CAN"T PROVE that they were bitten by snakes I'll just wait for the OFFICIAL reports. Snakes are generally harmless so I'd rather not impugn the gentle nature of snakes. Maybe everyone has bad ankles, maybe it's ticks, maybe it's their socks or shoes or some medical condition. I CANT say for sure based on the so-called reports of pain and marks I'm seeing. I mean, they aren't verified... therefore I won't make ANY assumptions on my own. that'd be Unscientific.

sorry FJ, I'm seeing ankles hurt, bite marks and snakes in the grass, I'm going to call it. there's a snake problem in the park. Even though the park ranger says snakes are RARE.
Can i say honestly or definitively that EVERY ankle problem is caused by snakes? No. that's not the claim. But it'd be kinda foolish to not make the common sense assumption that it's Likely that plenty are caused by snakes.
Even BEFORE doctors or the media or Park rangers make it "official".
And if the Park Rangers aren't investigating it and drs aren't reporting it, should that make me MORE confident in their reports or less?

look you can wait confirmation if you like but the evidence seems to be getting clearer and clearer to me.
your milage may vary.


Physician Assistant: ‘My Bosses Didn’t Want Me To Report COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects’
http://rumble.com/vpn2in-physician-a...cine-side.html

[fj1200]

I've got no problem with what you SAY here but you don't seem to have that critical view of the official records and you just snipe and nitpick all unofficial reports as false until proven (by what you won't say) or confirmed by "official" sources Gov't, MSM or Big Pharma.

As far as my approach. I'll say frankly, since i am a bit skeptical of ALL sources it's a mix of intuitive review of the data available and common sense review of evidence and motives.

...

Well, I guess we can both have our own intuitive reviews but I'll go with my intuition until whatever shows me otherwise based on my subjective opinion on the quality of what I've seen. But without getting on the merry-go-round again I feel the need to ask; Do you think the vaccines are a net positive, net negative, or inconsequential in treating COVID?