Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475725

    Default Only N95+ masks truly block the virus

    Based on past studies long before covid, and now even more in the past few years - it has been shown that regular cloth masks do very very little to help or block the virus.

    Based on science alone and the size of the vaccine, you need a mask that can block down to a certain micron level.

    The size of covid is approximately .06 microns. The material in the regular cloth masks simply don't really block down to that level. You need N95 and above rated masks. Maybe wearing 2 or 3 cloth masks might help more and block closer, but then you can't breathe right.

    Anyway, and now Biden is complaining about people wearing masks - and yet we all know they are not a solution.

    ---

    Joe Biden Angry One Third of Americans Are Not Wearing Masks During Pandemic

    President Joe Biden complained that Americans had stopped wearing masks during the coronavirus pandemic, promising to send better-fitting masks to Americans for free.

    “About one-third of Americans report they don’t wear a mask at all,” Biden noted disappointedly.

    The president spoke about masking during a speech on his video set across the street from the White House on the ongoing battle against the coronavirus.

    “I think it’s part of your patriotic duty,” he said about mask-wearing although he admitted, “it’s not that comfortable” and “it’s a pain in the neck” to wear them.

    During his speech, he lifted up his mask to demonstrate that masks should be worn tightly over the face and completely cover the nose.

    Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ring-pandemic/
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,939
    Thanks (Given)
    4224
    Thanks (Received)
    4559
    Likes (Given)
    1427
    Likes (Received)
    1079
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173679

    Default

    Shades of Carter telling everyone to wear a sweater.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    47,604
    Thanks (Given)
    23856
    Thanks (Received)
    17377
    Likes (Given)
    9630
    Likes (Received)
    6081
    Piss Off (Given)
    85
    Piss Off (Received)
    10
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475523

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Shades of Carter telling everyone to wear a sweater.
    A sweater worked though, when heat was turned down to 68! Sorta worked, I wore layers of clothes til dad said, "Scew it!" Heat back to 75.
    Last edited by Kathianne; 01-14-2022 at 05:05 PM.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Posts
    2,764
    Thanks (Given)
    364
    Thanks (Received)
    1658
    Likes (Given)
    193
    Likes (Received)
    733
    Piss Off (Given)
    5
    Piss Off (Received)
    1
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3041450

    Default

    Big difference though, Carter was at least a good man. Carter tried to be a good man. He was a horrific president but a good man. Biden is neither a good man nor a good president and clearly fancies himself the best of both.

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Shades of Carter telling everyone to wear a sweater.
    Last edited by BoogyMan; 01-16-2022 at 07:37 PM.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,984
    Thanks (Given)
    34378
    Thanks (Received)
    26493
    Likes (Given)
    2388
    Likes (Received)
    10009
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    369 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475526

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    Big difference though, Carter was at least a good man. Carter tried to be a good man. He was a horrific president but a good man. Biden is neither a good man nor a good president and clearly fancies himself the best of both.
    Agreed. I still like Jimmy Carter. I just don't want him in charge of anything more important than Habitats for Humanity.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    In your head
    Posts
    23,939
    Thanks (Given)
    4224
    Thanks (Received)
    4559
    Likes (Given)
    1427
    Likes (Received)
    1079
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    39
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    9173679

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    Big difference though, Carter was at least a good man. Carter tried to be a good man. He was a horrific president but a good man. Biden is neither a good man nor a good president and clearly fancies himself the best of both.
    No disagreement. Just the fatalistic mindset behind each proclamation.
    "when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
    "You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
    “Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho


  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    USA East Coast
    Posts
    3,091
    Thanks (Given)
    3048
    Thanks (Received)
    2042
    Likes (Given)
    4798
    Likes (Received)
    1752
    Piss Off (Given)
    230
    Piss Off (Received)
    13
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    6803334

    Default Find out how serious this whole thing is by...

    Just find out which POLITICIANS have invested in the PRODUCTION and DISTRIBUTION of N95 Masks.
    It has all become a planned HOAX. Anyone remember seeing that terrible image every day on Local TV screens and on the MSM's since this began?
    THIS IS THE METHOD TO KEEP THE UNINFORMED...SCARED, REALLY SCARED.


    THEN DELTA variant ....

    Then Omicron...
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    14,034
    Thanks (Given)
    4822
    Thanks (Received)
    4655
    Likes (Given)
    2517
    Likes (Received)
    1576
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075391

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Get over it and yourself. You are as bad as those that think cloth face covers will prevent covid.

    Between the CDC and your out of context crap is the middle, where most of us live. They want to mask everyone including the family pet, and you would have people believe surgical masks serve no purpose. You are as wrong the CDC.

    I'm pretty sure if you bombard a mask at close range with a full blast of pure COvID-19, the mask is probably not going to work. On the other hand, any particle of anything that lands on a mask instead of straight shot to the lungs can be somewhat effective. Even a particle of airborne covid.

    Actual science states and is proven that placing something -- even my damned hand -- between me and what's there is more effective than nothing. What you're saying is don't bother covering your mouth when you sneeze or cough because your hand can't stop it anyway. Bullshit.

    What I have paid particular attention to is that besides my grandkids not bringing covid home, they haven't brought the usual kid crud home either that is normally an annual event.

    You are just as willing to misrepresent the facts and truth as Fauci. The only thing you got right is that N95s are uncomfortable. Don't wear one. And don't presume to tell others not to.
    Can you quote me saying that people shouldn't cover their mouths when they sneeze or cough?
    Can you quote me saying that surgical mask serve no purpose ...for what they were made for... Blocking blood and fluids during surgery.
    Why are you trying to paint my POV as some irrational polar opposite of the govt narratives. It a lazy comparison. You're not using the real content. Your making simple categories and tossing me in a box of your own making.

    I've said from the beginning that cloth mask and surgical mask are not going to do much if anything to stop a virus. I based this on working with spray paints and sawdust. And what I learned from OSHA guidelines Pre- 2019. Which clearly stated that in settings with bacteria and viruses... including Flu ... Those mask were NOT to be used. N95 we're the minimum and they were to be worn once for short periods.
    But Gunny , Anyone who wants to use them are welcome too. But I don't want to hear crap about how I'm MUST wear one ...to protect others... OR ELSE.
    The govt has been LYING about mask for 2 years Gunny.
    I've simply been pointing it out and defending people's right not to be cocerced into doing something that has little to NO effect.

    There's no "middle ground"
    Either your for mandated mask and pretending it's highly effective.
    Or you think mask are piss poor (and possibly harmful) and wearing them should be voluntary.
    The facts and freedom are one side Gunny, even if that makes you uncomfortable.

    (BTW here's a something someone posted about mask here not long ago
    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...he-China-Virus)
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-26-2022 at 04:47 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    USA East Coast
    Posts
    3,091
    Thanks (Given)
    3048
    Thanks (Received)
    2042
    Likes (Given)
    4798
    Likes (Received)
    1752
    Piss Off (Given)
    230
    Piss Off (Received)
    13
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    6803334

    Default Screw sleepy joe.

    Yesterday, even the U.S. Supreme Court called the Mandates (for business) Unconstitutional.

    From the very start of the CRISIS THE DEMS SHOULD NEVER LET GO TO WASTE.

    All of the FAUCI, CDC, WHO, and Typical Democrat Fabricators who are ALL MAKING MILLIONS on the backs of AMERICAN Fears...(Too bad I never invested in FACE MASKS) that still have millions of Uneducated, Perpetually Afraid Americans hiding within their MASKS...even after people like FAUCI admitted MASKS DON'T WORK....before he changed his mind and said...MASKS DO WORK.

    Anyone remember WHO SAID....."There's a Sucker Born Every Minute?"

    Which are you?
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,984
    Thanks (Given)
    34378
    Thanks (Received)
    26493
    Likes (Given)
    2388
    Likes (Received)
    10009
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    369 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475526

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by icansayit View Post
    Yesterday, even the U.S. Supreme Court called the Mandates (for business) Unconstitutional.

    From the very start of the CRISIS THE DEMS SHOULD NEVER LET GO TO WASTE.

    All of the FAUCI, CDC, WHO, and Typical Democrat Fabricators who are ALL MAKING MILLIONS on the backs of AMERICAN Fears...(Too bad I never invested in FACE MASKS) that still have millions of Uneducated, Perpetually Afraid Americans hiding within their MASKS...even after people like FAUCI admitted MASKS DON'T WORK....before he changed his mind and said...MASKS DO WORK.

    Anyone remember WHO SAID....."There's a Sucker Born Every Minute?"

    Which are you?
    I'm the kind that follows the actual versus the junk science. If I pit something between myself and what I don't want to inhale, a piece of paper or even my hand is more effective than nothing.

    There's a happy medium and some common sense, logic and scientific fact lost somewhere in the middle between ineffective and blind faith.

    Wished I'd have invested in masks as well. Especially since every time Fauci and the Admin give the "all clear" everyone throws them away then has to buy new ones 3 days later when the aforementioned goes "wait a minute..."
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    47,984
    Thanks (Given)
    34378
    Thanks (Received)
    26493
    Likes (Given)
    2388
    Likes (Received)
    10009
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    369 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475526

    Default

    Speaking of ....

    If I'm sitting at a light and look over and see you and you are sitting alone in your car with windows rolled up and wearing a cloth face cover? Pretend you don't know me
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    over here
    Posts
    13,380
    Thanks (Given)
    5579
    Thanks (Received)
    6629
    Likes (Given)
    5362
    Likes (Received)
    3977
    Piss Off (Given)
    35
    Piss Off (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    88 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    17558169

    Default

    I have worn a mask only once since getting off the airplane coming home from Alaska first week of August. It was at my dermatologist's office. I decided that day if a mask is required I just won't go there.

    Got home last night from an event in Phoenix that had over 3,000 people and not one person had a mask on for entire weekend.

    I had covid in October and have antibodies which is just as good as the vaccine in helping with future infections and symptoms.

    It stops when we decide to say "No More".
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


    George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Westchester, New York
    Posts
    67,823
    Thanks (Given)
    7315
    Thanks (Received)
    34146
    Likes (Given)
    7051
    Likes (Received)
    7758
    Piss Off (Given)
    14
    Piss Off (Received)
    19
    Mentioned
    514 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475725

    Default

    No way in hell I go certain places without a good mask. Some places have mass crowds in NY and folks that may not exactly take better care of themselves. Same as any medical places that may have any patients. But most places no need.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    USA East Coast
    Posts
    3,091
    Thanks (Given)
    3048
    Thanks (Received)
    2042
    Likes (Given)
    4798
    Likes (Received)
    1752
    Piss Off (Given)
    230
    Piss Off (Received)
    13
    Mentioned
    37 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    6803334

    Default Imo...

    The Democrats and Biden have successfully brainwashed the same people who supposedly voted for him. Combined...they have managed to control Education enough to make millions of Uneducated typically democrat voters LIVE IN PERPETUAL FEAR by telling them..."YOU GONNA DIE IF YOU DON'T DO AS WE SAY!"
    Control of Education, and keeping the Victims uninformed with FAKE NEWS sources has worked so well. Is it any wonder they want to CONTROL Congress, The White House, and SCOTUS?

    Most of the RADICAL CRAZIES LIKE PELOSI AND SCHUMER KNOW...They won't be alive when all of their SHIT HITS THE FAN, and the children, and grandchildren have to pay BACK the TRILLIONS in Debt....with HIGHER TAXES under Socialism.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
    Philippians 4:13 I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me:

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    14,034
    Thanks (Given)
    4822
    Thanks (Received)
    4655
    Likes (Given)
    2517
    Likes (Received)
    1576
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075391

    Default

    CDC now admits that Cloth and surgical mask are crap
    and back in 2021

    Why CDC isn't recommending public wear N95 masks -
    Thursday, January 28, 2021-
    abc7ny.com




    "Dr. Walensky and other professionals fear that the uncomfortable and restrictive nature of N95's will make people not want to wear masks at all.
    "They're very hard to breathe in when you wear them properly," Walensky said.
    "They're very hard to tolerate when you wear them for long periods of time."
    "I have spent a reasonable amount of time in an N95 mask. They're hard to tolerate all day every day,"
    Walensky said. "And in fact, when you really think about how well people will wear them, I worry that if,
    if we suggest or require that people wear an N95, they won't wear them all the time."


    But lets make kids wear them all day in school
    for their "safety".
    kids don't have to breath do you want them to DIE of covid or kill the teachers!?
    Last edited by revelarts; 01-24-2022 at 11:47 PM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums