I Remember Afghanistan

[revelarts]

....The mujahideen also received aid from sympathetic Muslims throughout the world, and an indeterminate number of Muslim volunteers—popularly termed “Afghan-Arabs,” regardless of their ethnicity—traveled from all parts of the world to join their war effort. These foreign volunteers coordinated among themselves and with Muslims in their homelands through a network of their own, known as al-Qaeda (Arabic: al-Qāʿidah, “the Base”). In 1986 the mujahideen’s acquisition from the United States and Great Britain of substantial numbers of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles enabled the mujahideen to challenge Soviet control of the air—a significant factor in the Soviets’ withdrawal early in 1989....

britanica
mujahideen Taliban alqaeda radical militant Islam all together in Afghanistan all supported by the US ... Against soviet Russia.

[Gunny]

....The mujahideen also received aid from sympathetic Muslims throughout the world, and an indeterminate number of Muslim volunteers—popularly termed “Afghan-Arabs,” regardless of their ethnicity—traveled from all parts of the world to join their war effort. These foreign volunteers coordinated among themselves and with Muslims in their homelands through a network of their own, known as al-Qaeda (Arabic: al-Qāʿidah, “the Base”). In 1986 the mujahideenÂ’s acquisition from the United States and Great Britain of substantial numbers of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles enabled the mujahideen to challenge Soviet control of the air—a significant factor in the SovietsÂ’ withdrawal early in 1989....

britanica
mujahideen Taliban alqaeda radical militant Islam all together in Afghanistan all supported by the US ... Against soviet Russia.

Your point? Hardly news that the US has supported some pretty strange bedfellows in the war against communism. I promise you, based on YOUR posts, you're stuck on the tip of the iceberg on the topic. I'm well aware that a lot of the US's, not to mention the West's, doesn't make sense long-term.

Just as I am well-aware that you are stuck on "we're the bad guys" and everyone else is a victim. Your arguments require taking actual events at the time out of context. We have not chosen most of our enemies. They have chosen us. They lay all this blame on us for their BS because unlike them and/or most anyone else, we let them and accept the blame. That's SO BS.

This country was crawling with native Americans that the currently labeled, poor woebegone victims of the white men were killing off in a genocidal sweep across the continent when all these other peoples/Nations -- Rus, Mongols, Persians, Arabs, Muslims were already old. Most predate even the Romans. They were in business, in the same places more or less, when Greek city/states were the first squeak of "democracy". Rather than invent slavery, killing, imperialism, psycho religions, tyranny, we're ust the youngest and latest product. Our immaturity shows in everything we do. "We're going to change the World". Dreams of youth. No we're not.

You want to lump all radical Islam into a single bunch and claim we are responsible for them. Tell that to Charles Martel. Radical Islam is unified on only one topic -- taking over the entire World and eradicating anyone that opposes them. From the outside looking in through the eyes of a shallow mind, I guess you could say that. Over-simplified, to say the least.

These Peoples created themselves and existed long before us. We're the enemy because we are convenient. The US as the most powerful, highest profile, Western Nation represents Western society. So WE are the evil.

Arrogance coupled with a simplistic view of the World has stood between the West and success since the West quit meeting the East on their terms and beating them at their game and turned into a pack of decaying weaklings. Presuming that our way is THE way and trying to force it on Peoples that have their way amounts to them trying to force their way on us. Only they use war and we use words.

None of your out-of-contest, "blame us" argument is going to change them hating us and wanting to destroy us. There is no other choice in kill or be killed with an enemy that isn't negotiating. The winner lives and the loser dies.

Theyve been sitting over there for a good two centuries laughing at our child-like buffoonery. We're the ones that need to grow up or those same empires/societies that have existed for 10 of thousands of years will still exist and we'll be in somebody's history book as the society that followed Greece and Rome down the tubes.