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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I see.

    Who's your guy? Faucci? Collins? Biden? Walensky?
    I don't have a guy. Collins? Francis Collins? I liked his book.
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    Suddenly I have an urge for

    Jiffy Pop will do!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Well, tis getting just a bit more interesting to me.
    Of course, I am waiting for more time to pass. As every month more light is going to shine on what really has been going on with this crap-fest coming from Dr. Falsey and his handlers, as well as from o'biden and his handlers.
    Very likely the handlers are one and the same for both ffing puppets.
    Another glaring red-flag is no matter how knowledgeable or noted a top expert is-- if that man or woman attempts to warn about the vaccine and its many negatives- they are instant attacked with a vengeance like is rarely ever seen...
    To me only the willingly blind refuses to see that and question why?
    And only the very willingly blind refuse to see the accumulation of red flags since this scam started.
    And refusing to see how the fear being generated is then used to effect change that takes away freedom and change that forces the herd to blindly join in the experiment.
    Those that do more than just join in, but faithfully aid in the attacking those opposed to the stab to me are aiding a corrupted government and its hidden allies/puppet masters in this ongoing scam.
    I question --anybody-- that says all these people exposing the negatives are liars!!!
    And trust me on this, I would gladly stand toe to toe, face to face with anybody that says I am lying when I post what I've seen in person....
    Add to that all those things these people cry out are mere coincidences when they show the harm being done to people by the vaccine.
    FFking gullible I am not and I never will be. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I guess that's the problem. I don't agree that he's the most knowledgeable person in the field.
    See, that's what you do. Why not post the name of who you think is the most knowledgeable? That way we can debunk you.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    See, that's what you do. Why not post the name of who you think is the most knowledgeable? That way we can debunk you.
    It's folly to have "a" guy. I'm also not one to tar and feather entire organizations on the backs of a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It's folly to have "a" guy. I'm also not one to tar and feather entire organizations on the backs of a few.
    Of course. It's so much easier to attack than defend.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Of course. It's so much easier to attack than defend.
    Neither is easier and either can be fun. It's how arguments are honed and truth and fact are discovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    And trust me on this, I would gladly stand toe to toe, face to face with anybody that says I am lying when I post what I've seen in person....
    -Tyr
    What have you seen in person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Just throwin' my hands up.
    Fj
    How many "mistakes" do Fauci, the CDC and Big Pharama get to make before you start really questioning their daily pronouncements of treatments, safety and efficacy?

    And would you like to see other drs discussing/debate the data openly in public with Faucui , the CDC and big pharma representatives?
    Instead of all of them simply being called "outliers", being smeared, banned, blocked and censored?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Fj
    How many "mistakes" do Fauci, the CDC and Big Pharama get to make before you start really question their daily pronouncements of treatments, safety and efficacy?

    And would you like to see other drs discussing/debate the data openly in public with Faucui , the CDC and big pharma representatives?
    Instead of all of them simply being called them "outliers", being smeared, banned, blocked and censored?
    And those people were smeared at the behest of Collins and Fauci.


    In an October 8 email from Collins to Fauci, the head of the NIH calls the GBD the work of 'three fringe epidemiologists' that 'seems to be getting a lot of attention.'
    Collins adds that 'there needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown of its premises. I don't see anything like that online yet - is it underway?'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10324873/Emails-reveal-Fauci-head-NIH-colluded-try-smear-experts-called-end-lockdowns.html
    And then the negative articles began to pop up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't have a guy. Collins? Francis Collins? I liked his book.

    You said you didn't agree that Malone is the most knowledgable, which indicates that you have someone you think is more qualified.

    Who is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    You said you didn't agree that Malone is the most knowledgable, which indicates that you have someone you think is more qualified.

    Who is it?
    That is the point.
    If one says they disagree that a cited expert is the most knowledgeable, then of course they must have somebody in mind they think is more knowledgeable.
    When asked, they should cite the name of that person, or else their previous assertion becomes suspect.
    Simple logic then dictates that they should readily cite the name of the person that they think is more knowledgeable.
    I myself was waiting for that name too.
    So that I could due diligent research on that man or woman...
    Tis kinda disappointing that no name was given when queried, imho. --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Then I'll continue to post alternative sources about the current situation regarding covid vaccines and hope it doesn't make people feel stupid .
    As I will continue to call bullshit when that's what's being presented. Again, it's a two-way street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Fj
    How many "mistakes" do Fauci, the CDC and Big Pharama get to make before you start really questioning their daily pronouncements of treatments, safety and efficacy?

    And would you like to see other drs discussing/debate the data openly in public with Faucui , the CDC and big pharma representatives?
    Instead of all of them simply being called "outliers", being smeared, banned, blocked and censored?
    I'm sorry. Am I to understand that all of the links you and others have proffered here are completely on the up and up? That not one of those has been withdrawn as maybe not all it's cracked up to be? I don't recall to many retractions. I'm not sitting here and saying that the government has done nothing wrong but you are completely critical of anything the CDC/FDA/media put out. "liars..." "conmen..." "lies..." Those are bandied about without much regard.

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    You said you didn't agree that Malone is the most knowledgable, which indicates that you have someone you think is more qualified.

    Who is it?
    I'm not going to be one who is spouting the current flavor of the day making the rounds on the outer fringes of who is going to get banned next. So no, I don't have one person I'm going to hold out as the most knowledgable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    That is the point.
    No. The point is truth. No one has a monopoly on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    i'm sorry. Am i to understand that all of the links you and others have proffered here are completely on the up and up? That not one of those has been withdrawn as maybe not all it's cracked up to be? I don't recall to many retractions. I'm not sitting here and saying that the government has done nothing wrong but you are completely critical of anything the cdc/fda/media put out. "liars..." "conmen..." "lies..." those are bandied about without much regard.



    I'm not going to be one who is spouting the current flavor of the day making the rounds on the outer fringes of who is going to get banned next. So no, i don't have one person i'm going to hold out as the most knowledgable.



    No. The point is truth. No one has a monopoly on it.
    especially you and your snobbishness.
    I may be older than most. I may say things not everybody will like.
    But despite all of that. I will never lower myself to the level of Liars, Haters, Cheats, and Hypocrites.
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